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Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #90 on: January 20, 2009, 09:33:53 PM »

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Scal's been playing well but he can't play well playing alongside 3 HOF's and Rajon Rondo then what use is he?

He doesn't deserve to start on 28 other teams why would he start here?

Perk is our starting Center, end of story!

Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #91 on: January 20, 2009, 09:42:28 PM »

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Absolutely not.

Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #92 on: January 20, 2009, 11:04:03 PM »

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Is there any player who wouldn't want to start?

The thing to appreciate about Scal though is that he may be the kind of guy who is hoping Perk returns healthy to starting lineup soon, before some thug center really hammers his teammate Garnett, ending the C's hope of #18 this year.

I found it refreshing that Scal lobbied Doc to start playing Gomes (during his breakout year), even though they both play the same position.


Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #93 on: January 20, 2009, 11:24:39 PM »

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I think the question of should he start is silly, but as bud points out, i think he should certainly get some PF minutes, since its one of the only lineups off the bench we can go to to spread the floor and make life easier for the bench+ 2 starters combo.

Powe does alot of great things at the PF. spacing isn't one of them.

If we had a legit center in the bench which we could use Scal comfortably as a PF with then this discussion should change its tune a little bit. But there's still a legit case of how good our starters a playing. There's also no evidence that they won't be keeping the production with Perk over Scal, but there's no denying that with Scal in there our first unit is clicking incredibly well in both sides of the ball.


Um, The celtics won a championship with Perkins as their starting center and started out 27-2 this season, are you really trying to make a case for starting brian scalabrine and playing KG out of position based off what happened against the Raptors, Nets and Suns? ridiculous
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Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #94 on: January 20, 2009, 11:48:25 PM »

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I am saying play Scal at center not pf. All he has to do is exactly what he has been doing running the floor hard, nailing 3pts and playing solid defense. Scal is a avid cyclist and he motors up the floor fast.

Teams have been adjusting to our game and we have become to predictable. I would give Perkins as much time as he needs to get his shoulder 100%. The current starting five are in a groove and hopefully we can take miami and orlando ;D

Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #95 on: January 21, 2009, 02:32:54 AM »

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I think the question of should he start is silly, but as bud points out, i think he should certainly get some PF minutes, since its one of the only lineups off the bench we can go to to spread the floor and make life easier for the bench+ 2 starters combo.

Powe does alot of great things at the PF. spacing isn't one of them.

If we had a legit center in the bench which we could use Scal comfortably as a PF with then this discussion should change its tune a little bit. But there's still a legit case of how good our starters a playing. There's also no evidence that they won't be keeping the production with Perk over Scal, but there's no denying that with Scal in there our first unit is clicking incredibly well in both sides of the ball.


Um, The celtics won a championship with Perkins as their starting center and started out 27-2 this season, are you really trying to make a case for starting brian scalabrine and playing KG out of position based off what happened against the Raptors, Nets and Suns? ridiculous

By your logic we shouldn't touch our roster at all.

Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #96 on: January 21, 2009, 09:59:06 AM »

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I think the question of should he start is silly, but as bud points out, i think he should certainly get some PF minutes, since its one of the only lineups off the bench we can go to to spread the floor and make life easier for the bench+ 2 starters combo.

Powe does alot of great things at the PF. spacing isn't one of them.

If we had a legit center in the bench which we could use Scal comfortably as a PF with then this discussion should change its tune a little bit. But there's still a legit case of how good our starters a playing. There's also no evidence that they won't be keeping the production with Perk over Scal, but there's no denying that with Scal in there our first unit is clicking incredibly well in both sides of the ball.


Um, The celtics won a championship with Perkins as their starting center and started out 27-2 this season, are you really trying to make a case for starting brian scalabrine and playing KG out of position based off what happened against the Raptors, Nets and Suns? ridiculous

By your logic we shouldn't touch our roster at all.

no, hes saying we shouldn't change our starting rotation, which is diffrent, and which i agree with.

Scal has certainly earned himself some more minutes off the bench however, IMO.
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Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #97 on: January 21, 2009, 10:14:02 AM »

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I think the question of should he start is silly, but as bud points out, i think he should certainly get some PF minutes, since its one of the only lineups off the bench we can go to to spread the floor and make life easier for the bench+ 2 starters combo.

Powe does alot of great things at the PF. spacing isn't one of them.

If we had a legit center in the bench which we could use Scal comfortably as a PF with then this discussion should change its tune a little bit. But there's still a legit case of how good our starters a playing. There's also no evidence that they won't be keeping the production with Perk over Scal, but there's no denying that with Scal in there our first unit is clicking incredibly well in both sides of the ball.


Um, The celtics won a championship with Perkins as their starting center and started out 27-2 this season, are you really trying to make a case for starting brian scalabrine and playing KG out of position based off what happened against the Raptors, Nets and Suns? ridiculous

By your logic we shouldn't touch our roster at all.

Hey, if the Celtics could have kept Posey and brought PJ back in, would you have complained?

Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #98 on: January 21, 2009, 10:16:33 AM »

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I think the question of should he start is silly, but as bud points out, i think he should certainly get some PF minutes, since its one of the only lineups off the bench we can go to to spread the floor and make life easier for the bench+ 2 starters combo.

Powe does alot of great things at the PF. spacing isn't one of them.

If we had a legit center in the bench which we could use Scal comfortably as a PF with then this discussion should change its tune a little bit. But there's still a legit case of how good our starters a playing. There's also no evidence that they won't be keeping the production with Perk over Scal, but there's no denying that with Scal in there our first unit is clicking incredibly well in both sides of the ball.


Um, The celtics won a championship with Perkins as their starting center and started out 27-2 this season, are you really trying to make a case for starting brian scalabrine and playing KG out of position based off what happened against the Raptors, Nets and Suns? ridiculous

By your logic we shouldn't touch our roster at all.

no, hes saying we shouldn't change our starting rotation, which is diffrent, and which i agree with.

Scal has certainly earned himself some more minutes off the bench however, IMO.

It's fine if you agree that the starting roster should remain the same, I have no problem with that. I just have problem with the logic being used by him, that's all. Hypothetically, if by doing this move our team plays better, wether we won the championship a certain way or that we started this season a certain way shouldn't matter much nor should it be treated as an absolute way of drawing conclusions.

I also find it curious that the Suns are lumped in there since by all accounts they should've been a nightmare matchup for us with our current roster... but we completely embarrased them. No need to downplay it, we played very good.

I can see the argument from the both sides, but people trying to make this as a ridiculous idea leads me to believe that they really aren't studying the situation much. They talk about how we need Perk's defense in the first unit, though while possibly true there's still not much evidence to suggest that our first unit can't sustain the great defensive production with Scal instead of Perk. Just as there's no evidence that we can't sustain our offensive production with Perk instead of Scal.

I think the question of should he start is silly, but as bud points out, i think he should certainly get some PF minutes, since its one of the only lineups off the bench we can go to to spread the floor and make life easier for the bench+ 2 starters combo.

Powe does alot of great things at the PF. spacing isn't one of them.

If we had a legit center in the bench which we could use Scal comfortably as a PF with then this discussion should change its tune a little bit. But there's still a legit case of how good our starters a playing. There's also no evidence that they won't be keeping the production with Perk over Scal, but there's no denying that with Scal in there our first unit is clicking incredibly well in both sides of the ball.


Um, The celtics won a championship with Perkins as their starting center and started out 27-2 this season, are you really trying to make a case for starting brian scalabrine and playing KG out of position based off what happened against the Raptors, Nets and Suns? ridiculous

By your logic we shouldn't touch our roster at all.

Hey, if the Celtics could have kept Posey and brought PJ back in, would you have complained?

No. And the point is?

Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #99 on: January 21, 2009, 10:25:51 AM »

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Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #100 on: January 21, 2009, 10:28:54 AM »

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So, who believes that after Perkins comes back, if he gets into early foul trouble, then Scalabrine should be in the game and not Powe or Big Baby?  If Perk fouls out at the end of a close game, should he be the one on the floor with the four other starters?
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« Reply #101 on: January 21, 2009, 10:30:33 AM »

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So, who believes that after Perkins comes back, if he gets into early foul trouble, then Scalabrine should be in the game and not Powe or Big Baby?  If Perk fouls out at the end of a close game, should he be the one on the floor with the four other starters?

depends entirely on matchups and situations, but yes, he should be considered.
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Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #102 on: January 21, 2009, 11:29:19 AM »

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I said this earlier and I will reiterate it. It's not a horrible idea for when we play teams that have perimeter playing centers on offense like brad Miller, Camby, Bargnani, and the like.

Perk's shoulder is an injury that once it occurs will just keep happening over and over and over again. Unfortunately separated shoulders work that way and the joint only gets looser not tighter. babying that shoulder would probably be a good idea and if in games where Perk isn't needed to bang with an inside-the-paint-al-the-time center, give him some rest, start and play Scal 30 minutes and let Perk just have 15-18 minutes.


Re: Anyone else think Scal should start when Perk is healthy.
« Reply #103 on: January 21, 2009, 06:50:48 PM »

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i can't believe this thread is this long. no **** way should scal start. he's had a few DECENT games where he has'nt hurt us. if scal is even getting steady minutes in the playoffs this year we're in trouble. this can't be serious.

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« Reply #104 on: January 22, 2009, 08:53:34 AM »

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i can't believe this thread is this long. no **** way should scal start. he's had a few DECENT games where he has'nt hurt us. if scal is even getting steady minutes in the playoffs this year we're in trouble. this can't be serious.


Scali deserves steady minutes.  The team needs him to have steady minutes.  (not alot of minutes, just constant)