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Re: How much are our young players worth when their contracts run up
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2008, 11:46:49 PM »

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I'm starting to wonder about Powe earning the MLE (or close to it) next summer.

The more I think about it, the less I believe Landry is a ball park for Powe. Landry's contract is a ball park for Powe now, but not in 12 months time. Part of the reason why Landry got underpaid was because he'd only had half a season as a productive player. Powe will have an extra season of proven pedigree, and that will make the world of difference to the offers he gets. He'll be closer to Maxiell and Turiaf.

I've been very impressed with Powe in summer league, especially his ability to create his own shot. I think his reputation is going to grow in a big way over the course of this season. Powe might surpass the offers Maxiell and Turiaf receive.

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« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2008, 04:03:16 PM »

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Pay Powe.  3.5 mil for 3-4 years.  It's the right thing to do from many perspectives.  He deserves it-- great attitude, great work ethic.  He'll be a valuable player for the C's on and off the court.

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« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2008, 09:54:14 PM »

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I'm starting to wonder about Powe earning the MLE (or close to it) next summer.

The more I think about it, the less I believe Landry is a ball park for Powe. Landry's contract is a ball park for Powe now, but not in 12 months time. Part of the reason why Landry got underpaid was because he'd only had half a season as a productive player. Powe will have an extra season of proven pedigree, and that will make the world of difference to the offers he gets. He'll be closer to Maxiell and Turiaf.

I've been very impressed with Powe in summer league, especially his ability to create his own shot. I think his reputation is going to grow in a big way over the course of this season. Powe might surpass the offers Maxiell and Turiaf receive.

In order for this to happen, Leon Powe must play and be productive (9 and 5 would be fine) for 15+ mpg this year and maybe even start a few games due to injured starters. He cannt afford to be dominated by anyone in the paint and shouldnt get killed on the perimeter either. He really does have a consistency leap to make IMO and would love to see it.

He absoluely cannot disappear for a few games at a time like he has in the past. 8)
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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2008, 09:24:48 PM »

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I think Powe will get around $3.5M per year, probably for 3 years, and probably from Boston.  A little more than Landry, but not as much as Turiaf, the main reason being (fair or not) the height issue. 

It is actually in Boston's favor that Powe is a FA next summer.  I suspect the market to be relatively light, not many teams extending big contracts.  I think most teams are going to be careful with their spending -- many teams are hoping to lure one of LeBron/Wade/Bosh and as a result few teams will want to offer cap eating contracts to mid-level players.

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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2008, 10:50:50 PM »

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yea powe's going to get a pretty big payday. i can see pruitt possibly getting a pretty good extension but with the way bbd is playing right now, things aren't looking too good for him.

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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2008, 11:55:50 PM »

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Powe - 4 to 7 million - This guy is very good and will be a mainstay for the Celtics for the foreseeable future.

Rondo - 10 million+ - A future Celtics superstar - Him, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams are the going to be the three best PGs next decade.

Tony Allen - This is a make or break year for Tony - I'm not sure he'll be with us for the 2009 playoffs

Glen Davis - POB - Gabe Pruitt - time will tell.
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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2008, 09:46:54 PM »

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Powe - 4 to 7 million - This guy is very good and will be a mainstay for the Celtics for the foreseeable future. 

I just dont see this happening. I really like Leon Powe, but do you seriously see him making more money than Perk? Why would we overpay him and not Perk? Please name any undersized PF at 4-7 million per who is putting up comparable numbers. 8)
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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2008, 09:20:58 AM »

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I just dont see this happening. I really like Leon Powe, but do you seriously see him making more money than Perk? Why would we overpay him and not Perk? Please name any undersized PF at 4-7 million per who is putting up comparable numbers.

I do. Powe can score and rebound. Right or wrong that's what makes money in this league. Perkins attributes like post defense aren't going to make you alot of coin. Perkins also is foul prone and gets consantly injured. Also Perkins LOOKS awkward out there. Powe doesn't.

People love to quote Powe's lower numbers - but on the right team Powe could start and score 15+ a game IMHO. Powe gives you alot of production in very little playing time. I hope we can keep him.


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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2008, 10:00:00 AM »

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I think Powe would be an excellent signing at the MLE for teams like Milwaukee and Charlotte. Powe could be someone who shores up their interior play. If I were them Powe would certainly be on my radar.

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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2008, 10:10:45 AM »

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Powe - 4 to 7 million - This guy is very good and will be a mainstay for the Celtics for the foreseeable future. 

I just dont see this happening. I really like Leon Powe, but do you seriously see him making more money than Perk? Why would we overpay him and not Perk? Please name any undersized PF at 4-7 million per who is putting up comparable numbers. 8)

you bet. alot of teams would pay for a 6th or 7th man who is as productive as powe. he provides energy, rebounding and scoring.

plenty of teams would pay some of thier MLE for that.
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« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2008, 10:33:59 AM »

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Powe - 4 to 7 million - This guy is very good and will be a mainstay for the Celtics for the foreseeable future. 

I just dont see this happening. I really like Leon Powe, but do you seriously see him making more money than Perk? Why would we overpay him and not Perk? Please name any undersized PF at 4-7 million per who is putting up comparable numbers. 8)

you bet. alot of teams would pay for a 6th or 7th man who is as productive as powe. he provides energy, rebounding and scoring.

plenty of teams would pay some of thier MLE for that.

Part of the MLE, yes, close to the entire MLE...that is tougher to say. 

The biggest contract I have seen for a guy similar to Powe is Turiaf getting $4.5 million (although it is front loaded a bit according to hoopshype).  And considering that contract was thought of as a panic move, and much more than his value should have been, I would be surprised to see Powe get that much, and certainly not much more.

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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2008, 10:48:34 AM »

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depends on this year.

leon, over the last half of the year and this preseason has shown several improvements to his game (namely, a developing low post game and the beginings of a 10-12 ft jumper.)

if he can develop both of those and continue to grow on defense, he'll surpass turiuf, and thus be worth more.
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« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2008, 10:59:49 AM »

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depends on this year.


This is the key.  Unless Powe absolutely explodes this year (which I suppose could happen), he is still just a undersized PF off the bench.  A very good one, but they have become almost a dime a dozen in the league.  So it all comes down to the year.  Do teams have money to spend, and no one to spend it on?  Are teams desperate enough to overpay so the C's won't match?

I don't see the C's giving him that much without him signing an offer sheet with another team, and that won't happen unless a team ends up like Golden State...sitting on a ton of money with no one to give it to.  It certainly could happen...but I think its more likely that he signs a 2-3 year extension at $3.5-4 million per year, and then tries for his big payday after that.

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« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2008, 11:04:54 AM »

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depends on this year.


This is the key.  Unless Powe absolutely explodes this year (which I suppose could happen), he is still just a undersized PF off the bench.  A very good one, but they have become almost a dime a dozen in the league.  So it all comes down to the year.  Do teams have money to spend, and no one to spend it on?  Are teams desperate enough to overpay so the C's won't match?

I don't see the C's giving him that much without him signing an offer sheet with another team, and that won't happen unless a team ends up like Golden State...sitting on a ton of money with no one to give it to.  It certainly could happen...but I think its more likely that he signs a 2-3 year extension at $3.5-4 million per year, and then tries for his big payday after that.

are ones as consistant as leon a dime a dozen though? to me that's what teams may see as somethign that sets him apart. alot of those PF's are up and down (like big baby) leon has his off nights of course, but for the most part, he ALWAYS gives you alot of production in the rebounds and points in the paint department.
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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2008, 11:16:04 AM »

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depends on this year.


This is the key.  Unless Powe absolutely explodes this year (which I suppose could happen), he is still just a undersized PF off the bench.  A very good one, but they have become almost a dime a dozen in the league.  So it all comes down to the year.  Do teams have money to spend, and no one to spend it on?  Are teams desperate enough to overpay so the C's won't match?

I don't see the C's giving him that much without him signing an offer sheet with another team, and that won't happen unless a team ends up like Golden State...sitting on a ton of money with no one to give it to.  It certainly could happen...but I think its more likely that he signs a 2-3 year extension at $3.5-4 million per year, and then tries for his big payday after that.

are ones as consistant as leon a dime a dozen though? to me that's what teams may see as somethign that sets him apart. alot of those PF's are up and down (like big baby) leon has his off nights of course, but for the most part, he ALWAYS gives you alot of production in the rebounds and points in the paint department.

Well, I don't know if I would call Powe consistent yet.  He was very inconsistent for most of last year, had a nice stretch at the end of the season, but went back to being inconsistent in the playoffs (which prompted him losing PT).  If he proves this year that he can be consistent game in and game out, despite the matchups, then you are right, he will earn some more money.  But that is still a big if.