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Re: Queta signs 4 year contract extension
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Hopefully he learns to play playoff defense.  He was our biggest disappointment against the 76ers.

Also the foul trouble issues.

White was the biggest disappointment though overall that series. Queta to me was 2nd

Yeah I was fine with him besides the fouls. He was one of our only main players to not have a negative impact while on the floor. And the fouls is tough when the first playoff matchup is Embiid.

I feel good about him and Robinson as our duo. And for those who hate 3s they are a good duo as well. But no doubt we will need offensive creation because neither of those two will really create it themselves besides offensive boards.

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I hate how Q keeps setting illegal screens. It's like he never learned.

Re: Queta signs 4 year contract extension
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Hopefully he learns to play playoff defense.  He was our biggest disappointment against the 76ers.
Honestly he killed us in that series. He was a big reason why we lost.

That said, it will be a by committee approach. The 3rd leg of this is a stretch guy - whether it's Garza or someone else. I think they'll ride with Garza for now - though they'll probably look to upgrade at some point - and then Amari Williams is the project who could potentially be part of the group or maybe force out one of the above if he develops.

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Hopefully he learns to play playoff defense.  He was our biggest disappointment against the 76ers.

Also the foul trouble issues.

White was the biggest disappointment though overall that series. Queta to me was 2nd

Yeah I was fine with him besides the fouls. He was one of our only main players to not have a negative impact while on the floor. And the fouls is tough when the first playoff matchup is Embiid.

I feel good about him and Robinson as our duo. And for those who hate 3s they are a good duo as well. But no doubt we will need offensive creation because neither of those two will really create it themselves besides offensive boards.

Queta can do a lot more offensively. He has a hook shot, can take a dribble or two and get to the rim, can make free throws. Robinson is a lob threat, period.
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Hopefully he learns to play playoff defense.  He was our biggest disappointment against the 76ers.
Honestly he killed us in that series. He was a big reason why we lost.

That said, it will be a by committee approach. The 3rd leg of this is a stretch guy - whether it's Garza or someone else. I think they'll ride with Garza for now - though they'll probably look to upgrade at some point - and then Amari Williams is the project who could potentially be part of the group or maybe force out one of the above if he develops.

No, the big reason why we lost was because Derrick White was a no-show. Your no. 3 scorer couldn't put in buckets.


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People blaming a minimum contract guy when $21.5M Vucevic was unplayable. We traded Simons for what we thought was a legitimate center and he was getting run off the court.

Honestly, Queta should still have some leeway next season when he is still on a minimum contract. The dude was 4th on the depth chart and thrust into a starting role. When he did play, and he wasn't in foul trouble, he was extremely valuable. I am really happy to have him signed long term.

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People blaming a minimum contract guy when $21.5M Vucevic was unplayable. We traded Simons for what we thought was a legitimate center and he was getting run off the court.

Honestly, Queta should still have some leeway next season when he is still on a minimum contract. The dude was 4th on the depth chart and thrust into a starting role. When he did play, and he wasn't in foul trouble, he was extremely valuable. I am really happy to have him signed long term.

Exactly.  Queta lost his matchup vs Embiid, but he was supposed to lose his matchup vs Embiid.  Embiid when healthy is and has been MVP quality.  JB lost his matchup with PG and White lost his with Maxey is why we lost.  (I know I am simplifying it, but that we got beat down low vs a healthy Embiid is not a surprise.  We did not make up for it on the perimeter where we needed to given the relative talent there.)

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Neemias Queta has agreed to a fully guaranteed four-year, $56 million contract extension with the Boston Celtics, running through the 2030-31 season

Dumbass. He would have gotten far more than that in FA. Good news for BOS. Bad deal for Queta.

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Neemias Queta has agreed to a fully guaranteed four-year, $56 million contract extension with the Boston Celtics, running through the 2030-31 season

Dumbass. He would have gotten far more than that in FA.

Good news for BOS. Bad deal for Queta.

I think it shows appreciation to Boston for believing in him, developing him, and giving him the opportunity to earn a contract. He was on the fringes of NBA rosters for years, but now he is going to make more in 27-28 than he made total so far in his career.

He probably wanted to guarantee the money instead of risking it. If he got injured this year, he'd be looking at small minimum contracts for the rest of his career at best. Instead, he made sure he got his life-changing money.

I don't think that makes him a dumbass.

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Neemias Queta has agreed to a fully guaranteed four-year, $56 million contract extension with the Boston Celtics, running through the 2030-31 season

Dumbass. He would have gotten far more than that in FA.

Good news for BOS. Bad deal for Queta.

I think it shows appreciation to Boston for believing in him, developing him, and giving him the opportunity to earn a contract. He was on the fringes of NBA rosters for years, but now he is going to make more in 27-28 than he made total so far in his career.

He probably wanted to guarantee the money instead of risking it. If he got injured this year, he'd be looking at small minimum contracts for the rest of his career at best. Instead, he made sure he got his life-changing money.

I don't think that makes him a dumbass.

Nah, I am going to stick with dumbass.

Queta is already worth $20-25mil a season. With a good season, he would have been worth $25-30mil. At that level, he just signed a contract for 50% of his worth.

So I am sticking with dumbass.

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Neemias Queta has agreed to a fully guaranteed four-year, $56 million contract extension with the Boston Celtics, running through the 2030-31 season

Dumbass. He would have gotten far more than that in FA.

Good news for BOS. Bad deal for Queta.

I think it shows appreciation to Boston for believing in him, developing him, and giving him the opportunity to earn a contract. He was on the fringes of NBA rosters for years, but now he is going to make more in 27-28 than he made total so far in his career.

He probably wanted to guarantee the money instead of risking it. If he got injured this year, he'd be looking at small minimum contracts for the rest of his career at best. Instead, he made sure he got his life-changing money.

I don't think that makes him a dumbass.

Nah, I am going to stick with dumbass.

Queta is already worth $20-25mil a season. With a good season, he would have been worth $25-30mil. At that level, he just signed a contract for 50% of his worth.

So I am sticking with dumbass.

Is there another player in the NBA that signed a contract for above 20m a year for 10 points and 8 rebounds a game? I can't think of one. His contract is in line with other guys like Wendell Carter.

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Neemias Queta has agreed to a fully guaranteed four-year, $56 million contract extension with the Boston Celtics, running through the 2030-31 season

Dumbass. He would have gotten far more than that in FA.

Good news for BOS. Bad deal for Queta.

I think it shows appreciation to Boston for believing in him, developing him, and giving him the opportunity to earn a contract. He was on the fringes of NBA rosters for years, but now he is going to make more in 27-28 than he made total so far in his career.

He probably wanted to guarantee the money instead of risking it. If he got injured this year, he'd be looking at small minimum contracts for the rest of his career at best. Instead, he made sure he got his life-changing money.

I don't think that makes him a dumbass.

Nah, I am going to stick with dumbass.

Queta is already worth $20-25mil a season. With a good season, he would have been worth $25-30mil. At that level, he just signed a contract for 50% of his worth.

So I am sticking with dumbass.

Based upon what?  Everybody making $25 million seems to be clearly better. And that's without even taking into account his horrific playoff performance.
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Queta is already worth $20-25mil a season. With a good season, he would have been worth $25-30mil. At that level, he just signed a contract for 50% of his worth.
Based upon what?  Everybody making $25 million seems to be clearly better. And that's without even taking into account his horrific playoff performance.

So I would group Queta in the middle of the pack starting centers in the league.

High end - Hartenstein, Z Edey, Zubac, Duren, W Kessler
Lower end - J Allen, D Lively, N Claxton, Diabate, Queta

I am not including Mark Williams in this group because he is too injury prone. Too undependable. Zach Edey may join him on this list but I'll leave him in for now.

So those are the guys who I would compare to Queta.

Queta's numbers at 10ppg 8rpg are artificially low because the Celtics kept his minutes at 25mpg. He can easily play more. He can play 28-30mpg and that takes him to a double double guy. A double double guy with above average defense & is a high efficiency finisher (65% FG 67% TS).

I don't read much into his poor playoff showing. It was his 1st time in the playoffs. He struggled with foul trouble. He will learn from it. I do not see that effecting his value much.

So I see Queta as a $20-25mil based on his 10/8 in 25min and potentially rising to $25-30mil if he gets those extra minutes to 28-30mpg next year and averages a double double. That is where I see the potential price rise.

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High end - Hartenstein, Z Edey, Zubac, Duren, W Kessler
Lower end - J Allen, D Lively, N Claxton, Diabate, Queta

I am not including Mark Williams in this group because he is too injury prone. Too undependable. Zach Edey may join him on this list but I'll leave him in for now.

So those are the guys who I would compare to Queta.

Of those 10 players, 2 are still on rookie deals. Z Edey and D Lively. So their contracts are not useful for comparison.

Queta and Diabate were journeymen / 2nd round picks who have come good. Queta just got paid. Diabate hasn't yet. That is 4 of 10 players.

Leaving 6 others to look at.

* Duren = looking for max money, likely to get $35-40mil

* Zubac = signed a cheaper deal in 2024 (12ppg 9rpg) before his breakout year in 2025 (16ppg 12rpg, All-Defense). He is signed for $19-22mil a year for 4 years. He would get more money today if he was back on the market.

* J Allen = $20mil this year, $28-32mil next 3 years

* Hartenstein = gave up money to stay on a title winning team. Earning $25mil per year. I expect he would have gotten around $30mil if he left OKC.

* W Kessler = 4yrs $130mil. So $32.5mil per year.

* Nic Claxton = signed a declining contract that started at $27mil a year going down to $21mil a year at the end of his deal. He signed the deal after averaging 12ppg 10rpg in 30mpg.

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The other thing about these contracts is they just keep going up. The cap is set at $165mil this coming year (2026-27). 3 years ago (2024-25) it was $140mil. So you have to factor that in as well.

A guy who got $25.2mil in 2025 got 18% of the cap. That 18% today is now $29.7mil. So the contracts are rising and rising in a short space of time.

That $29.7mil in 2026-27 looks like an overpay relative to the $25mil in 2024-25 but it the same percentage of the cap.
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High end - Hartenstein, Z Edey, Zubac, Duren, W Kessler
Lower end - J Allen, D Lively, N Claxton, Diabate, Queta

I am not including Mark Williams in this group because he is too injury prone. Too undependable. Zach Edey may join him on this list but I'll leave him in for now.

So those are the guys who I would compare to Queta.

Of those 10 players, 2 are still on rookie deals. Z Edey and D Lively. So their contracts are not useful for comparison.

Queta and Diabate were journeymen / 2nd round picks who have come good. Queta just got paid. Diabate hasn't yet. That is 4 of 10 players.

Leaving 6 others to look at.

* Duren = looking for max money, likely to get $35-40mil

* Zubac = signed a cheaper deal in 2024 (12ppg 9rpg) before his breakout year in 2025 (16ppg 12rpg, All-Defense). He is signed for $19-22mil a year for 4 years. He would get more money today if he was back on the market.

* J Allen = $20mil this year, $28-32mil next 3 years

* Hartenstein = gave up money to stay on a title winning team. Earning $25mil per year. I expect he would have gotten around $30mil if he left OKC.

* W Kessler = 4yrs $130mil. So $32.5mil per year.

* Nic Claxton = signed a declining contract that started at $27mil a year going down to $21mil a year at the end of his deal. He signed the deal after averaging 12ppg 10rpg in 30mpg.

Queta isn't on the level of most of those guys.

Regular season, he's a solid defender, good rebounder, and a limited scorer that is very effective at the rim.

In the playoffs he was a poor defender and couldn't stay on the floor.

He should continue to grow and outperform his contract, but he's not in the tier you're putting him in.  He's basically Sam Dalembert, or a healthier but solidly inferior Robert Williams.
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