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Per Marc Stein: The Celtics have officially announced a Monday afternoon press conference for president of basketball operations Brad Stevens and new majority owner Bill Chisholm to discuss the Jaylen Brown trade after the league's annual moratorium is lifted and the deal is made official.

Wonder if they will have rotten fruit thrown at them by folks struggling to process the trade  ;D

Let's be honest, they won't be able to tell us any juicy stuff, like if there was an issue between JT and JB, or JT demanded JB be traded, or it was all about the Benjamins, or that the only other offer for JB was a bag of peanuts so they had to take this one...probably just praise Jaylen to the skies, and deny any contract reasons for the trade, and excited to have PG13 on board. But let's see if we can read between the lines for some more juicy watercooler gossip  :angel:

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As we all know the reason is, is that they didn?t want to pay him in 3 years when he get 70 million a year & I don?t blame them. Thou I still would had traded him out West instead to the hated rival 76ers
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Per Marc Stein: The Celtics have officially announced a Monday afternoon press conference for president of basketball operations Brad Stevens and new majority owner Bill Chisholm to discuss the Jaylen Brown trade after the league's annual moratorium is lifted and the deal is made official.

Wonder if they will have rotten fruit thrown at them by folks struggling to process the trade  ;D

Let's be honest, they won't be able to tell us any juicy stuff, like if there was an issue between JT and JB, or JT demanded JB be traded, or it was all about the Benjamins, or that the only other offer for JB was a bag of peanuts so they had to take this one...probably just praise Jaylen to the skies, and deny any contract reasons for the trade, and excited to have PG13 on board. But let's see if we can read between the lines for some more juicy watercooler gossip  :angel:

This. I do not know why we are looking forward to this press conference. We already know what Brad will say:
  • PG was someone they have had their eye on for a while
  • jaylen will be missed but he likes where the team is at
  • he thinks the team can compete for a championship
  • anything can happen in the offseason but right now, he is not expecting any other major changes. More of at the margins
  • there was no ill will or problems with Jaylen and he wishes him well
  • he expects some of the young guys to surprise us
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As we all know the reason is, is that they didn?t want to pay him in 3 years when he get 70 million a year & I don?t blame them. Thou I still would had traded him out West instead to the hated rival 76ers

Yes, I mentioned that the other day, how the contract probably figured into it all, and now Gary Washburn has an article in the Globe about it, after his previous article was savaging Brad with a pro-Jaylen article titled "Trading Jaylen Brown for Paul George and picks sure makes it seem like Celtics have ceased to be about winning". Now he's written one about how the Celtics felt that Jaylen's on court value didn't match his salary.

If I was to hazard a guess, I would say someone from the Celtics front office called Gary and fed him some info (on background of course).

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Jaylen Brown?s on-court game and off-court actions have been dissected exhaustively throughout the past week before and after his controversial trade to the 76ers for Paul George.

And while analytics could be the primary reason the Celtics were so eager to trade Brown, another factor is his contract.

NBA teams are beginning to pass on signing veterans to cap-limiting extensions. One of the reasons Mavericks general manager Nico Harrison traded Luka Doncic to the Lakers, a move that would lead to his firing, was his reluctance to commit $346 million in a potential extension.

Brown was eligible for a two-year, $141 million extension later this month and with Jayson Tatum eligible for a similar deal next summer, the Celtics did not want two players with max deals if it wasn?t a championship formula.


Doncic was a cornerstone in Dallas and, like Brown in Boston, was abruptly traded for several reasons. But the Mavericks did not want to commit long term to such a massive contract. The NBA?s new collective bargaining agreement has allowed players to earn generational wealth, but accompanying those lofty salaries are more salary-cap constraints that limit flexibility.

The Celtics learned that the hard way when their quest for a championship carried them into the daunted second apron, which severely limited their ability to make trades and sign players. They moved Jrue Holiday and Kristaps Porzingis and allowed Luke Kornet and Al Horford to leave via free agency to get under the second and first apron.

What the new CBA has done is discourage teams from drafting well, especially players who are close in age and experience. Brown and Tatum were drafted third in consecutive years, meaning the two, if they became All-Stars and All-NBA players, were going to garner similar contracts throughout their careers.

When some of these players are nearing extensions, teams are deciding they could do better things with their money. The Suns signed Devin Booker to a two-year, $145 million extension last summer, a deal similar to the one Brown was eligible for.


Like Brown with the Celtics, Booker had been with the Suns his entire 10-year career and was a franchise cornerstone, and he was by far the team?s highest-paid player. Booker earns $57 million this season while guard Jalen Green gets $36 million as the second-highest paid.

George?s salary essentially replaces Brown?s on the Celtics payroll, but he comes off the books in two years ? he has a player option for 2027-28 ? and any lofty extension is not a possibility. So while the Celtics replaced a 29-year-old player in his prime with a 36-year-old in his final years, they also avoided potential cap-clogging extension for Brown and now can align their salaries with Tatum making the Booker-type salary and players such as Derrick White or perhaps another yet-to-be-acquired prospect earning in the $30-plus million range.

If you?re wondering how a team like the champion Knicks were able to pad their roster with established, well-paid veterans, the answer is Jalen Brunson: He took a $100 million pay cut during his last extension talks, and is New York?s third-highest paid player.

The Knicks? five-highest paid players earn from $57 million per season (Karl-Anthony Towns) to $20 million (Josh Hart). New York?s next-highest paid player after Mitchell Robinson bolted for the Celtics is Landry Shamet at $5.3 million.

The Celtics had their reasons for wanting to move Brown and salary is one of them, which really isn?t his fault. Because he earned All-NBA in 2022-23, he was eligible for that $304 million extension that made him the league?s highest-paid player. Did he deserve that distinction? Obviously not, but his extension eligibility and All-NBA honor came at the perfect time for a massive extension.

But when it came to the next extension, the Celtics decided to pass, despite Brown coming off a career season and entering his prime. The analytics say Brown is not as valuable of a player as his statistics may lead one to believe, but one of the primary reasons the Boston brass decided 10 years of Brown was enough: they believed his on-court value did not match his salary.


Is that true? Some believe no, but there was a reason why players who earn $50-plus million a season are difficult to trade ? because their market value is so precarious. The Celtics should have gotten more in return for Brown, but players who have attracted these bundles of draft picks in trades ? Mikal Bridges, Desmond Bane ? are making in the $30 million and $40 million range. Brown becomes Philadelphia?s second-highest paid player behind Joel Embiid while Tyrese Maxey will earn $40 million next season.

The 76ers? salaries are top heavy, with its three top players earning $154 million out of their $201 million cap. Embiid, Brown, and Maxey will all be eligible for extensions in coming years and VJ Edgecombe will be due a rookie extension, and then the 76ers will have to get creative to fit those guys into their salary structure.


But for now, they gladly took Brown, his analytical issues, his salary, and his much-debated game.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2026/07/04/sports/jaylen-brown-celtics-contract-trade/
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Chris Mannix: "I talked to one team that absolutely made an offer to Boston for Jaylen Brown. A good team. They made an offer to Boston. And I got to I talked to this to a person in that front office after the deal with Philadelphia was consummated, and they were stunned. Mostly because they knew their offer wasn't very good, but they told me, this person told me, that the offer would have gotten better.. They were probing to see how low can they go. Look, nobody's going to come at you with their best offer right away, especially when the perception is that you're trying to make a deal and you're desperate to get out of there."
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Maybe PG13 will fail his physical.  :P
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Maybe PG13 will fail his physical.  :P

I am more worried about Jaylen failing a physical.  I did not love that time he took off with Achilles tendinitis late in the season.

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Per Marc Stein: The Celtics have officially announced a Monday afternoon press conference for president of basketball operations Brad Stevens and new majority owner Bill Chisholm to discuss the Jaylen Brown trade after the league's annual moratorium is lifted and the deal is made official.

Wonder if they will have rotten fruit thrown at them by folks struggling to process the trade  ;D

Let's be honest, they won't be able to tell us any juicy stuff, like if there was an issue between JT and JB, or JT demanded JB be traded, or it was all about the Benjamins, or that the only other offer for JB was a bag of peanuts so they had to take this one...probably just praise Jaylen to the skies, and deny any contract reasons for the trade, and excited to have PG13 on board. But let's see if we can read between the lines for some more juicy watercooler gossip  :angel:

This. I do not know why we are looking forward to this press conference. We already know what Brad will say:
  • PG was someone they have had their eye on for a while
  • jaylen will be missed but he likes where the team is at
  • he thinks the team can compete for a championship
  • anything can happen in the offseason but right now, he is not expecting any other major changes. More of at the margins
  • there was no ill will or problems with Jaylen and he wishes him well
  • he expects some of the young guys to surprise us

Your list of likely comments is on point. In all likelihood that?s all we?ll get. But I look forward nonetheless because sometimes things are said that reveal underlying motivators. Probably won?t happen but that?s why I?m interested.

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I just hope they grill Chisolm with questions. Yes, Brad will have his PR answers via the basketball side, but there's now clear evidence that they have committed to cost-cutting measures since the 2024 title and sale of the team. Even if it's CBA-related, they need to put him on record on whether his private equity ownership will actually be willing to again go into the aprons and be willing to sign/add max players in the future alongside Tatum. Stevens has the "out" of people wondering if he's just acting on ownership's behalf, so Chisolm is the guy they need to keep bombarding with the hard questions.
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Maybe PG13 will fail his physical.  :P

I am more worried about Jaylen failing a physical.  I did not love that time he took off with Achilles tendinitis late in the season.

Is this bizarro world?  You're more worried about Jalen resting a handful of games, as opposed to George missing 30+ games per season for the last seven years?
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Question for the cap-ologists out there?

If the C?s had kept Jaylen were there any methods in which they could extend him (at some point in the future) for anything less than the max?

Could Brad have said, ?Hey we love you, but we can?t give you the max as it?s going to handcuff us when trying to build out the team.  Here?s what we can offer you though???

Why can?t teams/players have that type of mutual understanding? 

Then if Jaylen would t accept it, he could test free agency when his contract was over and C?s could also make an offer. If another team wanted to pay him more, then we could have tried to work out a sign-and-trade (possibly). 

If not, oh well, he?s about to turn 33 and we?ve got a lot more cap space.

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Question for the cap-ologists out there?

If the C?s had kept Jaylen were there any methods in which they could extend him (at some point in the future) for anything less than the max?

Could Brad have said, ?Hey we love you, but we can?t give you the max as it?s going to handcuff us when trying to build out the team.  Here?s what we can offer you though???

Why can?t teams/players have that type of mutual understanding? 

Then if Jaylen would t accept it, he could test free agency when his contract was over and C?s could also make an offer. If another team wanted to pay him more, then we could have tried to work out a sign-and-trade (possibly). 

If not, oh well, he?s about to turn 33 and we?ve got a lot more cap space.

I?m furthest thing possible from capologist, but isn?t that what Jalen Brunson did?

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There would have been nothing preventing BOS from paying Brown less.  I doubt Brown would have accepted less.