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I put Celtics behind
Philadelphia
New York
Detroit
Toronto
Miami
Cleveland
Washington
Miami

With George age, Tatum Achilles, white not what he once was, iffy bench.. looks like a play im team to me

I wrote a post earlier today (before the trade) saying I had Boston, Indy and Toronto in my top tier in the East. Then NYK and DET in my 2nd tier. I am moving BOS down from the top tier to the 2nd tier alongside NYK and DET. I think BOS are comparable to them.

So I still have them ahead of Atlanta, Miami, Orlando, Washington.

Oh wait, Philly. Philly could go in the top tier or alongside Boston in the 2nd tier. If Embiid is healthy, they are in the top tier. That is a big "if" though.

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without giannia team is done as currently constructed. joe is garbage in playoffs.

giannis or bust well bust here we come!

for this crappy return OBVIOUSLY JB had enough and WANTED OUT.

WRITING IS ON THE WALL
FIRE JOE NOW!

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PG is a two year experiment where they probably dump him after he opts in for his last year.

Yeah, that is how I see it. This is a 1 year period with PG13 and then he becomes an expiring contract. Then Brad will look to trade his expiring deal + the picks + BOS future picks to net a superstar back in return.

So next summer (12 months time) or the 2028 trade deadline (18 months time), Brad makes his move to put BOS back into title contention and sets BOS up to stay there for the remainder of Tatum's best years.

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I am just trying to wrap my head around why. No added cap flexibility in the next 2 years. We get worse in the short and long term. And the 2028 pick is worth nothing. So we waste Tatum?s prime hoping that we find the next lebron in 2031?
2025 CelticsStrong Historical Draft Orlando Magic:
PG: Chris Paul, Fred VanVleet
SG: Ray Allen, OG Anunoby, Zach Lavine
SF: Paul Pierce, Gordon Hayward
PF: Chris Bosh, Serge Ibaka, David West
C: Tim Duncan, Andrew Bogut

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Wasting Tatum's prime years.

This is horrendous.

PP
White
PG
JT
Robinson

That is a play in to low seed in the east at best
that team is better than the Celtics team that just got the 2nd seed

No it is not.

Firstly it would be foolish to pencil in Paul George, whos career has been blighted by injury and is 36 years old. Paul George has only played 78 games in two seasons for the 76ers. Tatum is still returning from major surgery too. Mitchell Robinson has only played in 77 regular season games in two seasons for New York.

The Celtics (most likely) had the best core availability in the NBA last season, that will completely change now.

The Pacers with Zubac & Haliburton back are better than the Celtics. So are the Heat now they have Giannis & the Raptors with Kawhi Leonard. At best the Celtics are the 7th best team in the east.

I do not think you understand how bad this decision was. Paul George and his super max contract had the worst value in the NBA (perhaps besides Embiid). Any team that took on his contract would expect a first round pick in return. The Celtics essentially traded Jaylen Brown for one first round pick.
even without George the team is better as Tatum is better than Brown, they've added Robinson, and the young guys will be better. 
2025 Historical Draft - Cleveland Cavaliers - 1st pick

Starters - Luka, JB, Lebron, Wemby, Shaq
Rotation - D. Daniels, Mitchell, G. Wallace, Melo, Noah
Deep Bench - Korver, Turner

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If we replace Brown with George, Robinson, and a TPE player, then we will be a better team this year.

That's a fact.

It could be. It would need to be a very good player coming back in the TPE though.

Someone like Trey Murphy.

We have no space to use a significant portion of the TPE.

Are we hard capped at the first apron because we used the MLE on Mitchell Robinson?

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NBC Sports Boston is saying Boston is still favoured by DraftKings ahead of Philly to win the East.

Even after the trade.

I do not believe that to be wrong.  I would pick us too.  I think the gap is smaller, however.

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If we replace Brown with George, Robinson, and a TPE player, then we will be a better team this year.

That's a fact.

It could be. It would need to be a very good player coming back in the TPE though.

Someone like Trey Murphy.

We have no space to use a significant portion of the TPE.

Are we hard capped at the first apron because we used the MLE on Mitchell Robinson?

That is correct.

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I am just trying to wrap my head around why. No added cap flexibility in the next 2 years. We get worse in the short and long term. And the 2028 pick is worth nothing. So we waste Tatum?s prime hoping that we find the next lebron in 2031?

how do you figure, isn't it essentially the 2028 clips?

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If we replace Brown with George, Robinson, and a TPE player, then we will be a better team this year.

That's a fact.

It could be. It would need to be a very good player coming back in the TPE though.

Someone like Trey Murphy.

We have no space to use a significant portion of the TPE.

Are we hard capped at the first apron because we used the MLE on Mitchell Robinson?

That is correct.

Okay ... bummer

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I am just trying to wrap my head around why. No added cap flexibility in the next 2 years. We get worse in the short and long term. And the 2028 pick is worth nothing. So we waste Tatum?s prime hoping that we find the next lebron in 2031?

how do you figure, isn't it essentially the 2028 clips?

Yes. It will be the Clippers pick. And probably a lottery pick.


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Oh, New Orleans, please please please bail us out of this one. We'll give you a lightly used Paul George and 3 firsts - just like you were asking - for Murphy and whoever else you want. I literally don't care at this point.

I just realized that our 2028 swap with SAS and our 2029 1st going to Portland now just got a lot more valuable for those teams

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Wasting Tatum's prime years.

This is horrendous.

PP
White
PG
JT
Robinson

That is a play in to low seed in the east at best
that team is better than the Celtics team that just got the 2nd seed

No it is not.

Firstly it would be foolish to pencil in Paul George, whos career has been blighted by injury and is 36 years old. Paul George has only played 78 games in two seasons for the 76ers. Tatum is still returning from major surgery too. Mitchell Robinson has only played in 77 regular season games in two seasons for New York.

The Celtics (most likely) had the best core availability in the NBA last season, that will completely change now.

The Pacers with Zubac & Haliburton back are better than the Celtics. So are the Heat now they have Giannis & the Raptors with Kawhi Leonard. At best the Celtics are the 7th best team in the east.

I do not think you understand how bad this decision was. Paul George and his super max contract had the worst value in the NBA (perhaps besides Embiid). Any team that took on his contract would expect a first round pick in return. The Celtics essentially traded Jaylen Brown for one first round pick.
even without George the team is better as Tatum is better than Brown, they've added Robinson, and the young guys will be better.

I love your positive thoughts right now as I really need them and I think it sadly was time to trade JB. I think they are better than the team the Celtics started last season with when Tatum was out but my question would be do you think they are better than the Celtics team that was in the playoffs and had Tatum back?  Robinson is for sure helpful but the PG and JB difference is ugh. Even if you do not think JB impacts winning. The non-Tatum minutes now are going to be even tougher I feel.

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Can they still package Hauser in the trade the 27 mill trade exception with first round picks and get someone like a Murphy?

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I put Celtics behind
Philadelphia
New York
Detroit
Toronto
Miami
Cleveland
Washington
Miami

With George age, Tatum Achilles, white not what he once was, iffy bench.. looks like a play im team to me

I wrote a post earlier today (before the trade) saying I had Boston, Indy and Toronto in my top tier in the East. Then NYK and DET in my 2nd tier. I am moving BOS down from the top tier to the 2nd tier alongside NYK and DET. I think BOS are comparable to them.

So I still have them ahead of Atlanta, Miami, Orlando, Washington.

Oh wait, Philly. Philly could go in the top tier or alongside Boston in the 2nd tier. If Embiid is healthy, they are in the top tier. That is a big "if" though.

After almost the entire blog misread the team a year ago, I am going to laugh a bit when I see posts denigrating the roster and predicting play-in, late-lottery, low seed.  Of course any of that is possible, but at the moment, the Celtics in July, 2026 compared to July, 2025 have George and Tatum instead of Brown, have Q, Baylor, Hugo, and Walsh following a growth year, have Mitchell Robinson as the backup 5 and Garza more comfortably set as a 3rd center.  I get that DW may be declining (not convinced) and I get JT is still coming off the Achilles, but overall the roster is a step ahead (on paper) IMO.  I think Who's tiers are on-point.  Boston looks to be a competitive team as is.  Even better with a surprise move in the next few days - or a substantial leap from Q, Baylor, Hugo, Walsh.