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Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
« Reply #45 on: Yesterday at 01:26:23 PM »

Offline paintitgreen

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I hate the narrative too. You play the teams in front of you. OKC just beat an 8 seed that lost its best player when that 8 seed was up by about 25 in Game 3, squeaked by a 4 seed that took them to seven after having just gone seven in the first round, a 6 seed, and then a 5 seed in the Finals, winning in seven when that 4 seed?s best player got hurt in Game 5 and was knocked out of the series early in Game 7. Denver beat an 8 seed, 4 seed, 7 seed and 8 seed in the Finals. But they are the champs, no excuses or diminutions.

The relevant argument against extending Joe is not diminishing the 24 title, which was legit and happened but it is now done. The argument is that in Joe?s other two years the Celtics had the best roster in the East and last year the best in the NBA, and came out of those two years with a conference finals loss to an 8 seed and a second round choke job, both of which were filled with opportunities to second guess the coach through failure to recognize moments, failure to motivate and failure to make needed adjustments to playing style and playing time.
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Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
« Reply #46 on: Yesterday at 09:38:26 PM »

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I hate the narrative too. You play the teams in front of you. OKC just beat an 8 seed that lost its best player when that 8 seed was up by about 25 in Game 3, squeaked by a 4 seed that took them to seven after having just gone seven in the first round, a 6 seed, and then a 5 seed in the Finals, winning in seven when that 4 seed?s best player got hurt in Game 5 and was knocked out of the series early in Game 7. Denver beat an 8 seed, 4 seed, 7 seed and 8 seed in the Finals. But they are the champs, no excuses or diminutions.

The relevant argument against extending Joe is not diminishing the 24 title, which was legit and happened but it is now done. The argument is that in Joe?s other two years the Celtics had the best roster in the East and last year the best in the NBA, and came out of those two years with a conference finals loss to an 8 seed and a second round choke job, both of which were filled with opportunities to second guess the coach through failure to recognize moments, failure to motivate and failure to make needed adjustments to playing style and playing time.

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Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
« Reply #47 on: Yesterday at 11:05:12 PM »

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Playoffs, Playoffs?  Are you talking about playoffs?  Playoffs?

50 wins would be a miracle and, for that matter, a waste.

Coach to win. Having players and coaches with the ability to perform well without their best player is not a waste. Developing talent and a winning mentality is plenty valuable, potentially more than a chance at one good asset/prospect.

More important than that, is to coach to develop your key young players. Allow them to sink or swim and learn from their mistakes. I'm not saying tank, but rather develop.  That includes JB.

I'm wondering if Coach Dumbo will be encouraged to keep the core players' minutes to reasonable limits to avoid playing them into the ground in some effort to gain a 6 seed that is meaningless to our real goal of competing for another title after Tatum returns. Although, I suspect that Jesus and the Wise Men could instruct Joe to develop the younger guys and keep Jaylen Brown's minutes reasonable and he would ignore them as well.
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Re: Mazzulla has signed a multi-year contract extension.
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Playoffs, Playoffs?  Are you talking about playoffs?  Playoffs?

50 wins would be a miracle and, for that matter, a waste.

Coach to win. Having players and coaches with the ability to perform well without their best player is not a waste. Developing talent and a winning mentality is plenty valuable, potentially more than a chance at one good asset/prospect.

More important than that, is to coach to develop your key young players. Allow them to sink or swim and learn from their mistakes. I'm not saying tank, but rather develop.  That includes JB.

I'm wondering if Coach Dumbo will be encouraged to keep the core players' minutes to reasonable limits to avoid playing them into the ground in some effort to gain a 6 seed that is meaningless to our real goal of competing for another title after Tatum returns. Although, I suspect that Jesus and the Wise Men could instruct Joe to develop the younger guys and keep Jaylen Brown's minutes reasonable and he would ignore them as well.

Well, Joe has a championship on his resume and Jesus and the wise men do not, so there?s that..  :angel:
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