2024-25 College Football Season

[Phantom255x]

I'm sorry but Alabama should not be in the Final 12.

And also, apparently the CFP committee (one of their people) came out and literally said that if SMU loses to Clemson this week in the ACC Championship Game, it's likely they will be out of the playoffs and Alabama gets in. Clemson is ranked ahead of SMU and in the playoffs now.

So explain this to me, how is it that you make a Championship Game for your conference and could get penalized for losing it while another team that doesn't play a Champ. Game could benefit as a result?? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think something similar happened a few years ago where USC got screwed because they lost their PAC-12 championship Game so Ohio State who was sitting out that weekend got to sneak in as a result.

I?m confused.  Maybe I?m misunderstanding you, how is Clemson ranked higher than SMU?

Clemsons literally in the championship game by default.  They lost their game, Miami lost their game.  Someone has to play SMU.  Clemsons game against SC was largely viewed as a playoff game, win and you?re in, and they lost.  I don?t disagree with you about Alabama not being the most deserving team, but I don?t agree about Clemson getting in no matter what after losing to South Carolina.  I?d rather see Ole Miss  get in over Alabama. 

Not a popular opinion, especially here, but Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Alabama both have much tougher schedules and signature wins against ranked teams (Ole Miss with a dominant win over Georgia stands out to me the most).  This tends to hold more weight than the additional loss.

Wait, my bad I completely messed that up. I didn't look at the most recent rankings. Clemson lost to SC, so now SMU is considered the projected 3 seed based on the playoffs.

I would still think Ole Miss and even South Carolina should have a better case to make it than Alabama.

[greg683x]

I'm sorry but Alabama should not be in the Final 12.

And also, apparently the CFP committee (one of their people) came out and literally said that if SMU loses to Clemson this week in the ACC Championship Game, it's likely they will be out of the playoffs and Alabama gets in. Clemson is ranked ahead of SMU and in the playoffs now.

So explain this to me, how is it that you make a Championship Game for your conference and could get penalized for losing it while another team that doesn't play a Champ. Game could benefit as a result?? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think something similar happened a few years ago where USC got screwed because they lost their PAC-12 championship Game so Ohio State who was sitting out that weekend got to sneak in as a result.

I?m confused.  Maybe I?m misunderstanding you, how is Clemson ranked higher than SMU?

Clemsons literally in the championship game by default.  They lost their game, Miami lost their game.  Someone has to play SMU.  Clemsons game against SC was largely viewed as a playoff game, win and you?re in, and they lost.  I don?t disagree with you about Alabama not being the most deserving team, but I don?t agree about Clemson getting in no matter what after losing to South Carolina.  I?d rather see Ole Miss  get in over Alabama. 

Not a popular opinion, especially here, but Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Alabama both have much tougher schedules and signature wins against ranked teams (Ole Miss with a dominant win over Georgia stands out to me the most).  This tends to hold more weight than the additional loss.

Wait, my bad I completely messed that up. I didn't look at the most recent rankings. Clemson lost to SC, so now SMU is considered the projected 3 seed based on the playoffs.

I would still think Ole Miss and even South Carolina should have a better case to make it than Alabama.

Of those three teams (Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Alabama), South Carolina has played the best down the stretch of the season, I?d love to see them get in, but they lost to both Alabama and Ole Miss head to head, it?s hard to argue around that.

Ole Miss has dominant wins over Georgia and South Carolina and their losses aren?t as bad as Alabamas.  I don?t understand much of the logic for why they would choose Alabama over Ole Miss other than they just think Alabama is better, which isn?t a great look

[Roy H.]

Bill Belichick has interviewed for the UNC head coaching position.

Why?  At 72 years old I'd prefer traveling, commentating and dating 20-something year old cheerleaders over working 16 hour days.

[tazzmaniac]

I'm sorry but Alabama should not be in the Final 12.

And also, apparently the CFP committee (one of their people) came out and literally said that if SMU loses to Clemson this week in the ACC Championship Game, it's likely they will be out of the playoffs and Alabama gets in. Clemson is ranked ahead of SMU and in the playoffs now.

So explain this to me, how is it that you make a Championship Game for your conference and could get penalized for losing it while another team that doesn't play a Champ. Game could benefit as a result?? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think something similar happened a few years ago where USC got screwed because they lost their PAC-12 championship Game so Ohio State who was sitting out that weekend got to sneak in as a result.

I?m confused.  Maybe I?m misunderstanding you, how is Clemson ranked higher than SMU?

Clemsons literally in the championship game by default.  They lost their game, Miami lost their game.  Someone has to play SMU.  Clemsons game against SC was largely viewed as a playoff game, win and you?re in, and they lost.  I don?t disagree with you about Alabama not being the most deserving team, but I don?t agree about Clemson getting in no matter what after losing to South Carolina.  I?d rather see Ole Miss  get in over Alabama. 

Not a popular opinion, especially here, but Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Alabama both have much tougher schedules and signature wins against ranked teams (Ole Miss with a dominant win over Georgia stands out to me the most).  This tends to hold more weight than the additional loss.

Wait, my bad I completely messed that up. I didn't look at the most recent rankings. Clemson lost to SC, so now SMU is considered the projected 3 seed based on the playoffs.

I would still think Ole Miss and even South Carolina should have a better case to make it than Alabama.

Of those three teams (Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Alabama), South Carolina has played the best down the stretch of the season, I?d love to see them get in, but they lost to both Alabama and Ole Miss head to head, it?s hard to argue around that.

Ole Miss has dominant wins over Georgia and South Carolina and their losses aren?t as bad as Alabamas.  I don?t understand much of the logic for why they would choose Alabama over Ole Miss other than they just think Alabama is better, which isn?t a great look

For what it is worth using the old BCS rankings, Bama would be 11th and Ole Miss 15th.  As for losses, Bama does have 2 bad road losses to OU and Vandy; however, Ole Miss has a bad home loss to Kentucky and a bad road loss to Florida.  Those are pretty equivalent bad losses.  Bama's road loss to Tennessee is clearly better than Ole Miss' road loss to LSU.   

[greg683x]

I'm sorry but Alabama should not be in the Final 12.

And also, apparently the CFP committee (one of their people) came out and literally said that if SMU loses to Clemson this week in the ACC Championship Game, it's likely they will be out of the playoffs and Alabama gets in. Clemson is ranked ahead of SMU and in the playoffs now.

So explain this to me, how is it that you make a Championship Game for your conference and could get penalized for losing it while another team that doesn't play a Champ. Game could benefit as a result?? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think something similar happened a few years ago where USC got screwed because they lost their PAC-12 championship Game so Ohio State who was sitting out that weekend got to sneak in as a result.

I?m confused.  Maybe I?m misunderstanding you, how is Clemson ranked higher than SMU?

Clemsons literally in the championship game by default.  They lost their game, Miami lost their game.  Someone has to play SMU.  Clemsons game against SC was largely viewed as a playoff game, win and you?re in, and they lost.  I don?t disagree with you about Alabama not being the most deserving team, but I don?t agree about Clemson getting in no matter what after losing to South Carolina.  I?d rather see Ole Miss  get in over Alabama. 

Not a popular opinion, especially here, but Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Alabama both have much tougher schedules and signature wins against ranked teams (Ole Miss with a dominant win over Georgia stands out to me the most).  This tends to hold more weight than the additional loss.

Wait, my bad I completely messed that up. I didn't look at the most recent rankings. Clemson lost to SC, so now SMU is considered the projected 3 seed based on the playoffs.

I would still think Ole Miss and even South Carolina should have a better case to make it than Alabama.

Of those three teams (Ole Miss, South Carolina, and Alabama), South Carolina has played the best down the stretch of the season, I?d love to see them get in, but they lost to both Alabama and Ole Miss head to head, it?s hard to argue around that.

Ole Miss has dominant wins over Georgia and South Carolina and their losses aren?t as bad as Alabamas.  I don?t understand much of the logic for why they would choose Alabama over Ole Miss other than they just think Alabama is better, which isn?t a great look

For what it is worth using the old BCS rankings, Bama would be 11th and Ole Miss 15th.  As for losses, Bama does have 2 bad road losses to OU and Vandy; however, Ole Miss has a bad home loss to Kentucky and a bad road loss to Florida.  Those are pretty equivalent bad losses.  Bama's road loss to Tennessee is clearly better than Ole Miss' road loss to LSU.

Ehh yeah I won?t argue that I guess.  In my opinion Ole Miss has a much more dominant win over Georgia than Alabama did.   None of Ole Miss? losses were blowout losses.  The Bama loss to Oklahoma is a real black eye.

That?s the marginal separation for me favoring Ole Miss, but I won?t lose sleep over it either way

[tazzmaniac]

Bill Belichick has interviewed for the UNC head coaching position.

Why?  At 72 years old I'd prefer traveling, commentating and dating 20-something year old cheerleaders over working 16 hour days.

Given those 2 options does your age really matter? 

[Goldstar88]

Bill Belichick has interviewed for the UNC head coaching position.

Why?  At 72 years old I'd prefer traveling, commentating and dating 20-something year old cheerleaders over working 16 hour days.

Given those 2 options does your age really matter?

That?s a good point. 

[tazzmaniac]

Tonight's championship games:

UNLV at Boise State -  There's been a lot of chatter about what happens if SMU loses to Clemson.  Some handwringing that Bama might be taken over SMU.  But what happens if Boise State loses to UNLV?  Does anyone actually think that 2 G5 teams should make the playoffs?  Personally I think they should get rid of the guaranteed spot for the G5.  Having 2 G5 teams make it would be a joke. 

Tulane at Army - Go Army.  Where's all the handwringing about 1-loss Army not being in the playoff conversation? 

[tazzmaniac]

Should be some competitive conference championship games today with the top 2 teams from each conference playing.  Much better without divisions.   
 

[Phantom255x]

This Texas-Georgia game is so boring

[tazzmaniac]

This Texas-Georgia game is so boring

Until it wasn't.  Georgia wins 22-19 in overtime.  Beck goes out injured at the end of the 1st half.  Georgia's offense looked better with Stockton in the 2nd half.  His running added a new dynamic.  It was hard to root for Georgia but didn't want Texas winning the SEC championship in their first season. 

[greg683x]

I?ve trashed penn st in this thread but I?ll give them credit, they played a lot better than I thought they would.  I don?t think Oregon is as great as some make them out to be but I didn?t think Penn st would be able to keep up in this game.  If you told me Oregon hung 31 points in the first half I would a thought it was a blowout.

Should be interesting to see what the committee does with SMU.

Hats off to Georgia.  I know they?ve been very Jeckle and Hyde this season but you got to give them credit.  Toughest schedule in college football, they take everyone?s best punch and they find ways to keep winning

[tazzmaniac]

I?ve trashed penn st in this thread but I?ll give them credit, they played a lot better than I thought they would.  I don?t think Oregon is as great as some make them out to be but I didn?t think Penn st would be able to keep up in this game.  If you told me Oregon hung 31 points in the first half I would a thought it was a blowout.

Should be interesting to see what the committee does with SMU.

Hats off to Georgia.  I know they?ve been very Jeckle and Hyde this season but you got to give them credit.  Toughest schedule in college football, they take everyone?s best punch and they find ways to keep winning

I agree with you about Penn State and Oregon.  Georgia finds a way to keep winning except when they play Bama.   If Georgia and Texas play for a 3rd time, Sark needs to be ready to use Manning more. 

Neither Clemson or SMU impressed me last night. If the committee follows the same logic that they used last week, Bama should be in over SMU.  Bama's strength of schedule is in the teams while SMU's is in the 70s.  To top it off Clemson lost to Georgia and South Carolina which both lost to Bama.  The committee's direction is still to pick the best 7 at large teams.  I'd put Ole Miss and South Carolina over SMU too.  If the committee goes with SMU, it will be to avoid public controversy. 

Edit - AP poll has it as close as it can be with Bama 11th (838 pts) and SMU 12th (837 pts).

[greg683x]

I?ve trashed penn st in this thread but I?ll give them credit, they played a lot better than I thought they would.  I don?t think Oregon is as great as some make them out to be but I didn?t think Penn st would be able to keep up in this game.  If you told me Oregon hung 31 points in the first half I would a thought it was a blowout.

Should be interesting to see what the committee does with SMU.

Hats off to Georgia.  I know they?ve been very Jeckle and Hyde this season but you got to give them credit.  Toughest schedule in college football, they take everyone?s best punch and they find ways to keep winning

I agree with you about Penn State and Oregon.  Georgia finds a way to keep winning except when they play Bama.   If Georgia and Texas play for a 3rd time, Sark needs to be ready to use Manning more. 

Neither Clemson or SMU impressed me last night. If the committee follows the same logic that they used last week, Bama should be in over SMU.  Bama's strength of schedule is in the teams while SMU's is in the 70s.  To top it off Clemson lost to Georgia and South Carolina which both lost to Bama.  The committee's direction is still to pick the best 7 at large teams.  I'd put Ole Miss and South Carolina over SMU too.  If the committee goes with SMU, it will be to avoid public controversy. 

Edit - AP poll has it as close as it can be with Bama 11th (838 pts) and SMU 12th (837 pts).

Looks like Bama is out, SMU saved their playoff with the comeback against Clemson.

It was probably the right thing to do, Alabama had no business losing to Oklahoma, but people are kidding themselves if they say these are the best teams in college football.

[Roy H.]

Maybe 12 is too many, haha.  Go to 8, and don't guarantee all of the conference champions a spot.