2024-25 College Football Season

[greg683x]

If Alabama goes to the playoffs it?s a travesty?no way they should go

Why is it fair that SEC teams have to cannibalize each other while teams like Indiana and Penn st among others get to have a cupcake schedule.   Can you tell me with a straight face that Penn st would still have only one loss if they had to play Alabama, Georgia, and Ole Miss.  or even Arkansas, South Carolina, LSU

Thank goodness BYU finally got exposed for the fraudulent undefeated team they were.  I?ll give Indiana credit, they at least demolished all the sub par teams put in front of them but it?s a joke that people would consider them to be better than teams in the SEC that have 3-4 losses, maybe even more

[Roy H.]

If Alabama goes to the playoffs it?s a travesty?no way they should go

Why is it fair that SEC teams have to cannibalize each other while teams like Indiana and Penn st among others get to have a cupcake schedule.   Can you tell me with a straight face that Penn st would still have only one loss if they had to play Alabama, Georgia, and Ole Miss.  or even Arkansas, South Carolina, LSU

Thank goodness BYU finally got exposed for the fraudulent undefeated team they were.  I?ll give Indiana credit, they at least demolished all the sub par teams put in front of them but it?s a joke that people would consider them to be better than teams in the SEC that have 3-4 losses, maybe even more

Eh.  They've lost to two unranked teams, including 24-3 this weekend.  Penn St. at least beats the tomato cans they've played this year.

[greg683x]

If Alabama goes to the playoffs it?s a travesty?no way they should go

Why is it fair that SEC teams have to cannibalize each other while teams like Indiana and Penn st among others get to have a cupcake schedule.   Can you tell me with a straight face that Penn st would still have only one loss if they had to play Alabama, Georgia, and Ole Miss.  or even Arkansas, South Carolina, LSU

Thank goodness BYU finally got exposed for the fraudulent undefeated team they were.  I?ll give Indiana credit, they at least demolished all the sub par teams put in front of them but it?s a joke that people would consider them to be better than teams in the SEC that have 3-4 losses, maybe even more

Eh.  They've lost to two unranked teams, including 24-3 this weekend.  Penn St. at least beats the tomato cans they've played this year.

Penn St has played one good team this year and they couldn?t score an offensive touchdown at home against them.  In my opinion it?s more of a travesty that they?re ranked #4 than it would be to let 3 loss SEC teams in the playoff. 

Alabamas loss against Oklahoma was bad, no doubt.  But anyone who?s paid attention to Vanderbilt this year would know they?re a good team.  Vanderbilts had to play Alabama, Missouri, South Carolina, Texas, LSU and they have Tennessee next week.  They beat Alabama, should have beat Missouri, and lost to Texas by a field goal.  Let Penn st play those teams and let?s see if they?re still ranked afterwards

If Vandy had Indiana or BYUs schedule they?d probably be undefeated too.  This can?t just be about win loss record

[Roy H.]

If Alabama goes to the playoffs it?s a travesty?no way they should go

Why is it fair that SEC teams have to cannibalize each other while teams like Indiana and Penn st among others get to have a cupcake schedule.   Can you tell me with a straight face that Penn st would still have only one loss if they had to play Alabama, Georgia, and Ole Miss.  or even Arkansas, South Carolina, LSU

Thank goodness BYU finally got exposed for the fraudulent undefeated team they were.  I?ll give Indiana credit, they at least demolished all the sub par teams put in front of them but it?s a joke that people would consider them to be better than teams in the SEC that have 3-4 losses, maybe even more

Eh.  They've lost to two unranked teams, including 24-3 this weekend.  Penn St. at least beats the tomato cans they've played this year.

Penn St has played one good team this year and they couldn?t score an offensive touchdown at home against them.  In my opinion it?s more of a travesty that they?re ranked #4 than it would be to let 3 loss SEC teams in the playoff. 

Alabamas loss against Oklahoma was bad, no doubt.  But anyone who?s paid attention to Vanderbilt this year would know they?re a good team.  Vanderbilts had to play Alabama, Missouri, South Carolina, Texas, and they have Tennessee next week.  They beat Alabama, should have beat Missouri, and lost to Texas by a field goal.  Let Penn st play those teams and let?s see if they?re still ranked afterwards

If Vandy had Indiana or BYUs schedule they?d probably be undefeated too.  This can?t just be about win loss record

Yeah, that Georgia State loss screams "undefeated season".  They're 6-5.  They're not some juggernaut.

[greg683x]

If Alabama goes to the playoffs it?s a travesty?no way they should go

Why is it fair that SEC teams have to cannibalize each other while teams like Indiana and Penn st among others get to have a cupcake schedule.   Can you tell me with a straight face that Penn st would still have only one loss if they had to play Alabama, Georgia, and Ole Miss.  or even Arkansas, South Carolina, LSU

Thank goodness BYU finally got exposed for the fraudulent undefeated team they were.  I?ll give Indiana credit, they at least demolished all the sub par teams put in front of them but it?s a joke that people would consider them to be better than teams in the SEC that have 3-4 losses, maybe even more

Eh.  They've lost to two unranked teams, including 24-3 this weekend.  Penn St. at least beats the tomato cans they've played this year.

Penn St has played one good team this year and they couldn?t score an offensive touchdown at home against them.  In my opinion it?s more of a travesty that they?re ranked #4 than it would be to let 3 loss SEC teams in the playoff. 

Alabamas loss against Oklahoma was bad, no doubt.  But anyone who?s paid attention to Vanderbilt this year would know they?re a good team.  Vanderbilts had to play Alabama, Missouri, South Carolina, Texas, and they have Tennessee next week.  They beat Alabama, should have beat Missouri, and lost to Texas by a field goal.  Let Penn st play those teams and let?s see if they?re still ranked afterwards

If Vandy had Indiana or BYUs schedule they?d probably be undefeated too.  This can?t just be about win loss record

Yeah, that Georgia State loss screams "undefeated season".  They're 6-5.  They're not some juggernaut.

No one said they?re a juggernaut.  But they?re certainly not a ?tomato can? team that Penn St gets to play for 90% of their schedule.

Can you at least answer this.  If Penn st had to play Alabama, Texas, Missouri, LSU, Tennessee, South Carolina, would they have more than 3 losses?  Would they even be ranked?.  The fact that you can only harp on one of Vandys losses  should tell you something

[Roy H.]

If Alabama goes to the playoffs it?s a travesty?no way they should go

Why is it fair that SEC teams have to cannibalize each other while teams like Indiana and Penn st among others get to have a cupcake schedule.   Can you tell me with a straight face that Penn st would still have only one loss if they had to play Alabama, Georgia, and Ole Miss.  or even Arkansas, South Carolina, LSU

Thank goodness BYU finally got exposed for the fraudulent undefeated team they were.  I?ll give Indiana credit, they at least demolished all the sub par teams put in front of them but it?s a joke that people would consider them to be better than teams in the SEC that have 3-4 losses, maybe even more

Eh.  They've lost to two unranked teams, including 24-3 this weekend.  Penn St. at least beats the tomato cans they've played this year.

Penn St has played one good team this year and they couldn?t score an offensive touchdown at home against them.  In my opinion it?s more of a travesty that they?re ranked #4 than it would be to let 3 loss SEC teams in the playoff. 

Alabamas loss against Oklahoma was bad, no doubt.  But anyone who?s paid attention to Vanderbilt this year would know they?re a good team.  Vanderbilts had to play Alabama, Missouri, South Carolina, Texas, and they have Tennessee next week.  They beat Alabama, should have beat Missouri, and lost to Texas by a field goal.  Let Penn st play those teams and let?s see if they?re still ranked afterwards

If Vandy had Indiana or BYUs schedule they?d probably be undefeated too.  This can?t just be about win loss record

Yeah, that Georgia State loss screams "undefeated season".  They're 6-5.  They're not some juggernaut.

No one said they?re a juggernaut.  But they?re certainly not a ?tomato can? team that Penn St gets to play for 90% of their schedule.

Can you at least answer this.  If Penn st had to play Alabama, Texas, Missouri, LSU, Tennessee, South Carolina, would they have more than 3 losses?  Would they even be ranked?.  The fact that you can only harp on one of Vandys losses  should tell you something

More than three losses?  I doubt it.

Anyway, the idea that a team that is in a four-way tie for 6th in the SEC should be in the playoff is silly.  I like Alabama, but they're not deserving. 

[greg683x]

If Alabama goes to the playoffs it?s a travesty?no way they should go

Why is it fair that SEC teams have to cannibalize each other while teams like Indiana and Penn st among others get to have a cupcake schedule.   Can you tell me with a straight face that Penn st would still have only one loss if they had to play Alabama, Georgia, and Ole Miss.  or even Arkansas, South Carolina, LSU

Thank goodness BYU finally got exposed for the fraudulent undefeated team they were.  I?ll give Indiana credit, they at least demolished all the sub par teams put in front of them but it?s a joke that people would consider them to be better than teams in the SEC that have 3-4 losses, maybe even more

Eh.  They've lost to two unranked teams, including 24-3 this weekend.  Penn St. at least beats the tomato cans they've played this year.

Penn St has played one good team this year and they couldn?t score an offensive touchdown at home against them.  In my opinion it?s more of a travesty that they?re ranked #4 than it would be to let 3 loss SEC teams in the playoff. 

Alabamas loss against Oklahoma was bad, no doubt.  But anyone who?s paid attention to Vanderbilt this year would know they?re a good team.  Vanderbilts had to play Alabama, Missouri, South Carolina, Texas, and they have Tennessee next week.  They beat Alabama, should have beat Missouri, and lost to Texas by a field goal.  Let Penn st play those teams and let?s see if they?re still ranked afterwards

If Vandy had Indiana or BYUs schedule they?d probably be undefeated too.  This can?t just be about win loss record

Yeah, that Georgia State loss screams "undefeated season".  They're 6-5.  They're not some juggernaut.

No one said they?re a juggernaut.  But they?re certainly not a ?tomato can? team that Penn St gets to play for 90% of their schedule.

Can you at least answer this.  If Penn st had to play Alabama, Texas, Missouri, LSU, Tennessee, South Carolina, would they have more than 3 losses?  Would they even be ranked?.  The fact that you can only harp on one of Vandys losses  should tell you something

More than three losses?  I doubt it.

Anyway, the idea that a team that is in a four-way tie for 6th in the SEC should be in the playoff is silly.  I like Alabama, but they're not deserving.

Fair enough, I disagree. The only thing James Franklin and Penn st has shown over the past few years is that they can?t beat quality opponents.  They?re ranked  two spots behind a team they couldn?t score an offensive touchdown against.

Strength of schedule needs to carry more weight than it does.  Georgia took on the toughest schedule in college football this year and the committee was trying to leave them out of the playoff again after two ranked losses.  While Notre Dame can lose to Northern  Illinois, still be in the playoff and ranked several spots higher bc they only have one loss.

These teams have say in building their schedule every year.  if they keep ranking teams like this there?s no incentive for a team to build a challenging schedule, and fans are going to be stuck with an underwhelming regular season, lite on marquee matchups

[wdleehi]

A three loss team in a Power Four should not be getting in over a one loss in a Power Four.  Records matter in every other sport, why not College Football?

Take Indiana.   Their schedule included the two teams in the National Championship last year.   Is it their fault both teams are having a down year?   Schedules were made years ago. 


Alabama lost to two 6-5 teams and put two cream puffs on their schedule. 

If the SEC wants to puff out it's chest as being better then the rest of football, schedule more out of conference games against other power 4 teams.   

[Donoghus]

A three loss team in a Power Four should not be getting in over a one loss in a Power Four.  Records matter in every other sport, why not College Football?

Take Indiana.   Their schedule included the two teams in the National Championship last year.   Is it their fault both teams are having a down year?   Schedules were made years ago. 


Alabama lost to two 6-5 teams and put two cream puffs on their schedule. 

If the SEC wants to puff out it's chest as being better then the rest of football, schedule more out of conference games against other power 4 teams.

Pretty much.  Let the actual results dictate matters (especially now with the expanded playoff) not hypotheticals.

Read an article that had this quote that summed things up pretty well.

Being one of the best teams in the country is not just a hypothetical that can withstand any number of losses. At some point, if you?ve lost to the only good teams on your resume (and especially if you?ve lost to bad teams), you are simply not one of the nation?s best.

[greg683x]

A three loss team in a Power Four should not be getting in over a one loss in a Power Four.  Records matter in every other sport, why not College Football?

Take Indiana.   Their schedule included the two teams in the National Championship last year.   Is it their fault both teams are having a down year?   Schedules were made years ago. 


Alabama lost to two 6-5 teams and put two cream puffs on their schedule. 

If the SEC wants to puff out it's chest as being better then the rest of football, schedule more out of conference games against other power 4 teams.

For the record, I am not advocating for Alabama to still be in the playoff.  Do I think it would be a ?travesty? if they found a way in given that there?s still games left to be played, no I don?t think it would.  I was using them more as an example of the bigger point I was making.  Does anyone really think Indiana is a better football team than Alabama? I wouldnt think so.

Should Indiana have to pay for the fact Michigan and Washington are terrible this year?  You?re right, they shouldn?t.  But teams like Georgia shouldn?t have to pay for the fact that they have a tougher schedule either.  The schedule SEC teams have is much more grueling and bc that?s not given enough weight IMO, you have a playoff where weaker teams get in over stronger teams

[wdleehi]

A three loss team in a Power Four should not be getting in over a one loss in a Power Four.  Records matter in every other sport, why not College Football?

Take Indiana.   Their schedule included the two teams in the National Championship last year.   Is it their fault both teams are having a down year?   Schedules were made years ago. 


Alabama lost to two 6-5 teams and put two cream puffs on their schedule. 

If the SEC wants to puff out it's chest as being better then the rest of football, schedule more out of conference games against other power 4 teams.

For the record, I am not advocating for Alabama to still be in the playoff.  Do I think it would be a ?travesty? if they found a way in given that there?s still games left to be played, no I don?t think it would.  I was using them more as an example of the bigger point I was making.  Does anyone really think Indiana is a better football team than Alabama? I wouldnt think so.

Should Indiana have to pay for the fact Michigan and Washington are terrible this year?  You?re right, they shouldn?t.  But teams like Georgia shouldn?t have to pay for the fact that they have a tougher schedule either.  The schedule SEC teams have is much more grueling and bc that?s not given enough weight IMO, you have a playoff where weaker teams get in over stronger teams

Which happens in every other league that can setup those amazing underdog winning it all moments. 


At some point, the record has to mean more then the name on the jersey.   

I also think both teams in the SEC title game will be in.   (same with the Big 10)

[greg683x]

A three loss team in a Power Four should not be getting in over a one loss in a Power Four.  Records matter in every other sport, why not College Football?

Take Indiana.   Their schedule included the two teams in the National Championship last year.   Is it their fault both teams are having a down year?   Schedules were made years ago. 


Alabama lost to two 6-5 teams and put two cream puffs on their schedule. 

If the SEC wants to puff out it's chest as being better then the rest of football, schedule more out of conference games against other power 4 teams.

For the record, I am not advocating for Alabama to still be in the playoff.  Do I think it would be a ?travesty? if they found a way in given that there?s still games left to be played, no I don?t think it would.  I was using them more as an example of the bigger point I was making.  Does anyone really think Indiana is a better football team than Alabama? I wouldnt think so.

Should Indiana have to pay for the fact Michigan and Washington are terrible this year?  You?re right, they shouldn?t.  But teams like Georgia shouldn?t have to pay for the fact that they have a tougher schedule either.  The schedule SEC teams have is much more grueling and bc that?s not given enough weight IMO, you have a playoff where weaker teams get in over stronger teams

Which happens in every other league that can setup those amazing underdog winning it all moments. 


At some point, the record has to mean more then the name on the jersey.   

I also think both teams in the SEC title game will be in.   (same with the Big 10)

I?m not making it about the name on the jersey though.  I?m just saying a team with the tougher schedule in college football shouldn?t have that held against them.  Yes a team like Georgia loses against two ranked teams.  They have two losses and a team like Indiana, or BYU previously have 0 losses.  But Georgia also had convincing Wins against Texas (top3) and wins against Tennessee (top 10) that should carry just as much weight as those losses. But they don?t seem to bc they were removed from the top 12.  Going undefeated should earn you a playoff trip, but if you?re gonna put teams like that in the top 5, schedule needs to matter more

I?m all for Cinderella teams, but ranking those teams who have a strength of schedule ranking over 100 and possibly giving them first round byes is completely different.

The point is moot bc Indiana got beat (though I?ve made my feelings about Penn State known)

[Vermont Green]

This is going to continue to be a problem for College Football.  With 12 teams getting in, and likely more in the future, this is going to lead to more debate, not less.  More teams are going to feel snubbed, no matter how they work out the selections, straight record, strength of schedule, viewer ratings, etc.  I will say that these teams that are in the mix for say the 8-12 spots, they are probably not going to win the title.  They could win one fluke game, but not likely they win 3 games.

Teams are still going to gripe if they finish 13th or 14th and don't get in.  But when you had 4 teams, the 5th and 6th teams that didn't get in had a better chance to win the title.  So yeah, some teams/fans are going to gripe, but if you are 9-3 or whatever, it is hard to make an argument that you have a legit chance at the title.

[greg683x]

This is going to continue to be a problem for College Football.  With 12 teams getting in, and likely more in the future, this is going to lead to more debate, not less.  More teams are going to feel snubbed, no matter how they work out the selections, straight record, strength of schedule, viewer ratings, etc.  I will say that these teams that are in the mix for say the 8-12 spots, they are probably not going to win the title.  They could win one fluke game, but not likely they win 3 games.

Teams are still going to gripe if they finish 13th or 14th and don't get in.  But when you had 4 teams, the 5th and 6th teams that didn't get in had a better chance to win the title.  So yeah, some teams/fans are going to gripe, but if you are 9-3 or whatever, it is hard to make an argument that you have a legit chance at the title.

At the end of the day it?s great for the sport.  So many more meaningful games in November now.  I think it?s great.

I don?t know about that comment about the 8-12 teams having no shot but it?s going to be fun.

[greg683x]

Committee has a lot of tough decisions to make this week.  People are going to be mad no matter what.

Miami likely moves out of the top 12 which would open the door for either South Carolina or Alabama.  If it?s down to those two, I know it?s gonna irritate a lot of people but I don?t know how you don?t give it to Alabama.  They won the head to head and have a victory over Georgia.

That game SC got screwed by the officials against LSU is really haunting them