2024 NBA Offseason News

[Birdman]

LeBron tenure in LA had been a D for me if grading him there & only reason not an F is he won a title albeit a bubble one..

[BudweiserCeltic]

Is Lebron opting out in L.A. a non-story? Sounds like he's just shuffling some money/years around and will stay in L.A., but what if someone offers him a bajillion dollars in a good setting?

Doesn't he always do a 1-1 contract and always opts out to get more money in FA? It does give him some options to leave, but I think this was always going to happen regardless, so on that regard it is a non-story, but it always opens the possibility he may leave if he finds a better opportunity.

[SHAQATTACK]

LeBron tenure in LA had been a D for me if grading him there & only reason not an F is he won a title albeit a bubble one..

He had a history of not making to finals with ou5 some nagging injuries.   I knew they would win .  It was special made short season just for him.   He would have 6 more rings if season s were all that short.

[Moranis]

Atkinson hired by Cavs

[footey]

Atkinson hired by Cavs

Good move.  Nets should have never fired him. Inmates running the asylum never a good idea.

[Moranis]

LeBron tenure in LA had been a D for me if grading him there & only reason not an F is he won a title albeit a bubble one..

weird grade. The 5 seasons before Lebron got there, the Lakers won 27, 21, 17, 26, and 35 games.  His first season they won 37, though Lebron played just 55 games and they were 28-27 with him.  Next season they acquired Davis, were the best team in the West all year, and won the title. They traded away som key vets, but wee still 42-30 the next year. Went up 2-1 on the Suns and then Davis got hurt in Game 4 and they ended up losing the series. Lebron and Davis both hurt the next year as they won just 33 games. But then ended up in the WCF last year and playoffs this year both with mid 40's wins. Lebron is in his upper 30's.  Not exactly sure what you were expecting, but they were significantly better woth Lebron than without him.

[Roy H.]

LeBron tenure in LA had been a D for me if grading him there & only reason not an F is he won a title albeit a bubble one..

weird grade. The 5 seasons before Lebron got there, the Lakers won 27, 21, 17, 26, and 35 games.  His first season they won 37, though Lebron played just 55 games and they were 28-27 with him.  Next season they acquired Davis, were the best team in the West all year, and won the title. They traded away som key vets, but wee still 42-30 the next year. Went up 2-1 on the Suns and then Davis got hurt in Game 4 and they ended up losing the series. Lebron and Davis both hurt the next year as they won just 33 games. But then ended up in the WCF last year and playoffs this year both with mid 40's wins. Lebron is in his upper 30's.  Not exactly sure what you were expecting, but they were significantly better woth Lebron than without him.

I think Lebron's tenure in LA has been disappointing.  I don't blame Lebron the player for that.  Lebron the GM and Lebron the Coach Killer?  Perhaps.  That Westbrook trade killed them, and they haven't found any consistency since.

But, it's not a failing grade or a D-.  I think almost every franchise in the NBA would be happy with one title in six seasons, even if the expectations were greater.  Worst case, it's a C+/B-.

[Phantom255x]

Atkinson hired by Cavs

But does he have podcasting experience? idk... maybe they should have ponied up more for Reddick 

[MattyIce]

LeBron tenure in LA had been a D for me if grading him there & only reason not an F is he won a title albeit a bubble one..

weird grade. The 5 seasons before Lebron got there, the Lakers won 27, 21, 17, 26, and 35 games.  His first season they won 37, though Lebron played just 55 games and they were 28-27 with him.  Next season they acquired Davis, were the best team in the West all year, and won the title. They traded away som key vets, but wee still 42-30 the next year. Went up 2-1 on the Suns and then Davis got hurt in Game 4 and they ended up losing the series. Lebron and Davis both hurt the next year as they won just 33 games. But then ended up in the WCF last year and playoffs this year both with mid 40's wins. Lebron is in his upper 30's.  Not exactly sure what you were expecting, but they were significantly better woth Lebron than without him.

I think Lebron's tenure in LA has been disappointing.  I don't blame Lebron the player for that.  Lebron the GM and Lebron the Coach Killer?  Perhaps.  That Westbrook trade killed them, and they haven't found any consistency since.

But, it's not a failing grade or a D-.  I think almost every franchise in the NBA would be happy with one title in six seasons, even if the expectations were greater.  Worst case, it's a C+/B-.

and players don?t respect that mickey mouse

[Roy H.]

LeBron tenure in LA had been a D for me if grading him there & only reason not an F is he won a title albeit a bubble one..

weird grade. The 5 seasons before Lebron got there, the Lakers won 27, 21, 17, 26, and 35 games.  His first season they won 37, though Lebron played just 55 games and they were 28-27 with him.  Next season they acquired Davis, were the best team in the West all year, and won the title. They traded away som key vets, but wee still 42-30 the next year. Went up 2-1 on the Suns and then Davis got hurt in Game 4 and they ended up losing the series. Lebron and Davis both hurt the next year as they won just 33 games. But then ended up in the WCF last year and playoffs this year both with mid 40's wins. Lebron is in his upper 30's.  Not exactly sure what you were expecting, but they were significantly better woth Lebron than without him.

I think Lebron's tenure in LA has been disappointing.  I don't blame Lebron the player for that.  Lebron the GM and Lebron the Coach Killer?  Perhaps.  That Westbrook trade killed them, and they haven't found any consistency since.

But, it's not a failing grade or a D-.  I think almost every franchise in the NBA would be happy with one title in six seasons, even if the expectations were greater.  Worst case, it's a C+/B-.

and players don?t respect that mickey mouse

I'm not sure how I feel about the Bubble Title.  The games certainly didn't resemble anything like NBA basketball, but arguably the Lakers suffered as much as anybody due to HCA being meaningless.

Is that title more or less flukey than the 50 game season?

[CelticsWhat35]

LeBron tenure in LA had been a D for me if grading him there & only reason not an F is he won a title albeit a bubble one..

weird grade. The 5 seasons before Lebron got there, the Lakers won 27, 21, 17, 26, and 35 games.  His first season they won 37, though Lebron played just 55 games and they were 28-27 with him.  Next season they acquired Davis, were the best team in the West all year, and won the title. They traded away som key vets, but wee still 42-30 the next year. Went up 2-1 on the Suns and then Davis got hurt in Game 4 and they ended up losing the series. Lebron and Davis both hurt the next year as they won just 33 games. But then ended up in the WCF last year and playoffs this year both with mid 40's wins. Lebron is in his upper 30's.  Not exactly sure what you were expecting, but they were significantly better woth Lebron than without him.

I think Lebron's tenure in LA has been disappointing.  I don't blame Lebron the player for that.  Lebron the GM and Lebron the Coach Killer?  Perhaps.  That Westbrook trade killed them, and they haven't found any consistency since.

But, it's not a failing grade or a D-.  I think almost every franchise in the NBA would be happy with one title in six seasons, even if the expectations were greater.  Worst case, it's a C+/B-.

and players don?t respect that mickey mouse

I'm not sure how I feel about the Bubble Title.  The games certainly didn't resemble anything like NBA basketball, but arguably the Lakers suffered as much as anybody due to HCA being meaningless.

Is that title more or less flukey than the 50 game season?

It?s not a coincidence that the Lakers haven?t come close to sniffing a title in any other year besides the bubble.  Anthony Davis can?t last an entire season and at this point in his career, neither can LeBron.  HCA didn?t matter.  It was the lack of travel and reduced season that was so important for the Lakers to be able to succeed for that Mickey Mouse title

[Moranis]

LeBron tenure in LA had been a D for me if grading him there & only reason not an F is he won a title albeit a bubble one..

weird grade. The 5 seasons before Lebron got there, the Lakers won 27, 21, 17, 26, and 35 games.  His first season they won 37, though Lebron played just 55 games and they were 28-27 with him.  Next season they acquired Davis, were the best team in the West all year, and won the title. They traded away som key vets, but wee still 42-30 the next year. Went up 2-1 on the Suns and then Davis got hurt in Game 4 and they ended up losing the series. Lebron and Davis both hurt the next year as they won just 33 games. But then ended up in the WCF last year and playoffs this year both with mid 40's wins. Lebron is in his upper 30's.  Not exactly sure what you were expecting, but they were significantly better woth Lebron than without him.

I think Lebron's tenure in LA has been disappointing.  I don't blame Lebron the player for that.  Lebron the GM and Lebron the Coach Killer?  Perhaps.  That Westbrook trade killed them, and they haven't found any consistency since.

But, it's not a failing grade or a D-.  I think almost every franchise in the NBA would be happy with one title in six seasons, even if the expectations were greater.  Worst case, it's a C+/B-.

and players don?t respect that mickey mouse

I'm not sure how I feel about the Bubble Title.  The games certainly didn't resemble anything like NBA basketball, but arguably the Lakers suffered as much as anybody due to HCA being meaningless.

Is that title more or less flukey than the 50 game season?

I don't think either was a fluke. The Lakers were the best team in the West when the season went on hold and were also one of the healthier ones.  Several western teams ended up getting stats healthy during the break. 

The Spurs had the best record in the sport. The Knicks weren't great, but they beat 70% win rate Blazers and 62% win rate Lakers in the playoffs.  And that was a Shaq/Kobe team. Even the 1st round Wolves was the best Wolves team till the Spreewl/Cassell team.

Those seasons were different but neither champion was a fluke.

[Roy H.]

Woj:  5 years, $270 million for Scottie Barnes.

[Who]

Woj:  5 years, $270 million for Scottie Barnes.

Did they get a discount?

I don't think I'd bother giving him an early extension if I wasn't getting a discount. He hasn't proved enough. Too much empty stats / empty returns / stats not resulting in wins.

[keevsnick]

Woj:  5 years, $270 million for Scottie Barnes.

Did they get a discount?

I don't think I'd bother giving him an early extension if I wasn't getting a discount. He hasn't proved enough. Too much empty stats / empty returns / stats not resulting in wins.

5/270 is the 30% max, which he'll only get if he makes All-NBA next year. If he doesn't make All-NBA he'll get the 25% max which would be 5/225. So no, this isn't in any way a discount. Its his max. 

He was actually a very high regarded player advanced stats wise last season.