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[Goldstar88]

Still can't believe he gave up Brown for 36 y/o Paul George and picks.

And didn't take Giannis + Portis for Brown, Hugo/Baylor, and picks.

Brad will be held against this.

Yep. We should be looking at a Pritchard, White, Tatum, Portis, Giannis starting lineup. Bench consisting of Connely, Hauser, Harper Jr, Walsh, Queta would have been serviceable enough. Maybe they are able to entice a Beal or KCP to join for the vet min. Brad should lose his executive of the year award for making such a blunder. Celtics would have been a top 3 team in the NBA, but instead they are likely a first or second round playoff exit. Once again..

[Neurotic Guy]

Still can't believe he gave up Brown for 36 y/o Paul George and picks.

And didn't take Giannis + Portis for Brown, Hugo/Baylor, and picks.

Brad will be held against this.

Yep. We should be looking at a Pritchard, White, Tatum, Portis, Giannis starting lineup. Bench consisting of Connely, Hauser, Harper Jr, Walsh, Queta would have been serviceable enough. Maybe they are able to entice a Beal or KCP to join for the vet min. Brad should lose his executive of the year award for making such a blunder. Celtics would have been a top 3 team in the NBA, but instead they are likely a first or second round playoff exit. Once again..

The only problem with your logic is that neither of you know what was actually on the table with Milwaukee. The idea that it was done if Brad gives up Baylor/Hugo is assumed, not confirmed. And unknown whether JB indicated he wouldn?t sign longterm with the Bucks. If it was there for the taking I agree with you it seems the sensible thing to do.

Of course there?d be folks here saying the future of our franchise is in the hands of a man with an injury waiting to happen.

[Celtics4ever]

Brad will be held against this.

Until Bill Chisholm came along, Brad made moves to make the team better on the court.   Since, Bill Chisholm came along Brad has made moves to improve our bottom line.    I blame Wyc for selling the team to Bill Chisholm, and Bill Chisholm for being a cheapskate.

[gift]

Brad will be held against this.

Until Bill Chisholm came along, Brad made moves to make the team better on the court.   Since, Bill Chisholm came along Brad has made moves to improve our bottom line.    I blame Wyc for selling the team to Bill Chisholm, and Bill Chisholm for being a cheapskate.

I don't blame Wyc. It wasn't his decision to sell and so I don't think the buyer was his decision either.

[slamtheking]

Brad will be held against this.

Until Bill Chisholm came along, Brad made moves to make the team better on the court.   Since, Bill Chisholm came along Brad has made moves to improve our bottom line.    I blame Wyc for selling the team to Bill Chisholm, and Bill Chisholm for being a cheapskate.

I don't blame Wyc. It wasn't his decision to sell and so I don't think the buyer was his decision either.

how was it not Wyc's decision to sell and how was it not his decision who to sell to?  He was in full control of both situations.

[Neurotic Guy]

Brad will be held against this.

Until Bill Chisholm came along, Brad made moves to make the team better on the court.   Since, Bill Chisholm came along Brad has made moves to improve our bottom line.    I blame Wyc for selling the team to Bill Chisholm, and Bill Chisholm for being a cheapskate.

I don't blame Wyc. It wasn't his decision to sell and so I don't think the buyer was his decision either.

how was it not Wyc's decision to sell and how was it not his decision who to sell to?  He was in full control of both situations.

Not sure, but I think the decision to sell may have been Wyc's father.  And who to sell to?  Well, I think you take the best offer.

[Celtics4ever]

I don't blame Wyc. It wasn't his decision to sell and so I don't think the buyer was his decision either.

There were others buyers, Stephen Pagliuca and  Friedkin Group, my understanding is he did not have a chance to up his bid.  Maybe he would not be so cheap.   I will lay off this topic when I see them spend for the betterment of the team.   It won't be this year.  I seen the money ball movie and it failed miserably when the Browns hired the architect of it.

Of course, they'll hide behind the new Collective bargaining unit.   This will be there mantra, what other teams has it affected?  The Thunder maybe, but expect every team to blame it for every unpopular decision hence, forth.

[Goldstar88]

Still can't believe he gave up Brown for 36 y/o Paul George and picks.

And didn't take Giannis + Portis for Brown, Hugo/Baylor, and picks.

Brad will be held against this.

Yep. We should be looking at a Pritchard, White, Tatum, Portis, Giannis starting lineup. Bench consisting of Connely, Hauser, Harper Jr, Walsh, Queta would have been serviceable enough. Maybe they are able to entice a Beal or KCP to join for the vet min. Brad should lose his executive of the year award for making such a blunder. Celtics would have been a top 3 team in the NBA, but instead they are likely a first or second round playoff exit. Once again..

The only problem with your logic is that neither of you know what was actually on the table with Milwaukee. The idea that it was done if Brad gives up Baylor/Hugo is assumed, not confirmed. And unknown whether JB indicated he wouldn?t sign longterm with the Bucks. If it was there for the taking I agree with you it seems the sensible thing to do.

Of course there?d be folks here saying the future of our franchise is in the hands of a man with an injury waiting to happen.

I mean, the top insider in the NBA (who I believe to be credible) is saying this. So I don?t see how it is a problem with logic or an assumption.


Thursday, Shams Charania of ESPN came out and shot that one down more definitely than anything we?ve heard to date. On the Pat McAfee Show, Shams was asked about the extension rumor and basically scoffed, shaking his head and making it clear that there was no validity to that report.

Shams: The breakdown with the Giannis, Boston conversations was very simple. The Celtics did not want to give up Hugo Gonzalez and/or Baylor Scheierman and another draft asset when the Bucks asked for that.

[Roy H.]

Still can't believe he gave up Brown for 36 y/o Paul George and picks.

And didn't take Giannis + Portis for Brown, Hugo/Baylor, and picks.

Brad will be held against this.

Yep. We should be looking at a Pritchard, White, Tatum, Portis, Giannis starting lineup. Bench consisting of Connely, Hauser, Harper Jr, Walsh, Queta would have been serviceable enough. Maybe they are able to entice a Beal or KCP to join for the vet min. Brad should lose his executive of the year award for making such a blunder. Celtics would have been a top 3 team in the NBA, but instead they are likely a first or second round playoff exit. Once again..

The only problem with your logic is that neither of you know what was actually on the table with Milwaukee. The idea that it was done if Brad gives up Baylor/Hugo is assumed, not confirmed. And unknown whether JB indicated he wouldn?t sign longterm with the Bucks. If it was there for the taking I agree with you it seems the sensible thing to do.

Of course there?d be folks here saying the future of our franchise is in the hands of a man with an injury waiting to happen.

I mean, the top insider in the NBA (who I believe to be credible) is saying this. So I don?t see how it is a problem with logic or an assumption.


Thursday, Shams Charania of ESPN came out and shot that one down more definitely than anything we?ve heard to date. On the Pat McAfee Show, Shams was asked about the extension rumor and basically scoffed, shaking his head and making it clear that there was no validity to that report.

The breakdown with the Giannis, Boston conversations was very simple. The Celtics did not want to give up Hugo Gonzalez and/or Baylor Scheierman and another draft asset when the Bucks asked for that.

I think NG is right:  nowhere has it been reported that if Boston added Hugo, Scheierman, or a #1 pick that the deal would have been done.

Even Shams doesn't have specifics on whether it was Hugo and Scheierman, or Hugo or Scheierman, nor does he list the draft asset.  And again, we don't know that that offer was an automatic yes from Milwaukee.

It sounds like Milwaukee was debating which direction they wanted to go until the end, but their slight preference was always for Miami's package for whatever reason.

[Goldstar88]

Stevens offered up a strong endorsement of the new Celtics wing as part of that same ?Beneath The Banners? video.

Paul?s a really good player, Stevens said. He?s been a really good player for a long time. He?s one of the more impactful players with regard to winning, even as he?s aged in the NBA.

We just think he?s a good fit for how we play, and I think the other part about Paul is he?s very smart. He has a good feel for the game, he?s got a good savvy to him about the game, and I think that fits in with the rest of our lineup.

[Roy H.]

Stevens offered up a strong endorsement of the new Celtics wing as part of that same ?Beneath The Banners? video.

Paul?s a really good player, Stevens said. He?s been a really good player for a long time. He?s one of the more impactful players with regard to winning ,even as he?s aged in the NBA.

We just think he?s a good fit for how we play, and I think the other part about Paul is he?s very smart. He has a good feel for the game, he?s got a good savvy to him about the game, and I think that fits in with the rest of our lineup.

I wish him well, but I'm not sure how much a guy can impact winning when he misses 35 games per year.  Also, I would obviously prefer the guy who "didn't impact winning" and yet won a title and a fFinals MVP over the guy who is "one of the more impactful players" but has never made it to the Finals.

I know that it comes with the territory, but Brad sounds like a sleazy used car salesman here.

[Vermont Green]

Everything Stevens said about Paul George is true. It does not mean that he is better than Brown.  More complementary is not the same as better.  They have to make up for that with the picks.  And maybe what they get if they trade George. 

[Roy H.]

Everything Stevens said about Paul George is true. It does not mean that he is better than Brown.  More complementary is not the same as better.  They have to make up for that with the picks.  And maybe what they get if they trade George.

They suggestion that he is one of the most impactful players when it comes to winning isn't only not true, it's laughable. I don't care what analytics say, guys need to be on the court to impact winning.

[SparzWizard]

Stevens offered up a strong endorsement of the new Celtics wing as part of that same ?Beneath The Banners? video.

Paul?s a really good player, Stevens said. He?s been a really good player for a long time. He?s one of the more impactful players with regard to winning, even as he?s aged in the NBA.

We just think he?s a good fit for how we play, and I think the other part about Paul is he?s very smart. He has a good feel for the game, he?s got a good savvy to him about the game, and I think that fits in with the rest of our lineup.

Yeah if this was 2017 Paul George he be really really good for Boston. But we are getting 2026 Paul George. I feel like we are getting 2026 Gordon Hayward now that I think about it lol. Both players similar age-wise and position-wise. Except one is already in the retirement home.

I'd been more ecstatic if we got 2017 Paul George in 2017 or 2026.