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[Surferdad]

Nets are selling.

Trade Springer + two second round picks for Day'Ron Sharpe. Then bring back Lonnie Walker

Should we just trade Tillman for D Sharpe?

We are not getting any use of him anyway.

We can't take back more salary than we send out, so Springer works but Tillman doesn't.

Is Sharpe any better than Oshae Brissett?  Would Sharpe play over Quetta?

Sharpe is a great backup big for BKN. He'd definitely get more minutes and play better than Queta this season at least. And given Tillman not getting any playing time + KP being hurt + Horford being old, they probably have to add a PF/C at the deadline.

I like this trade. Springer is essentially dead weight on the roster now. Adding Sharpe should really help the center depth after seeing Kornet and Queta struggle once again tonight. 

[Goldstar88]

Nets are selling.

Trade Springer + two second round picks for Day'Ron Sharpe. Then bring back Lonnie Walker

Should we just trade Tillman for D Sharpe?

We are not getting any use of him anyway.

We can't take back more salary than we send out, so Springer works but Tillman doesn't.

Is Sharpe any better than Oshae Brissett?  Would Sharpe play over Quetta?

Sharpe is a 6?9?/ 265lb center. He and Brissett would have different roles. Not sure Day?ron would play over Quetta and we already have Luke as a primary backup C.  Doesn?t seem like adding Sharpe makes sense for this team.  Would rather bring in a backup PF.

[Silas]

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Joe Mazzulla on the Celtics tough schedule coming up in the midst of their recent struggles: I'm actually really excited about it. It's going to be fun. It's going to be great.

[Phantom255x]

r/bostonceltics
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Joe Mazzulla on the Celtics tough schedule coming up in the midst of their recent struggles: I'm actually really excited about it. It's going to be fun. It's going to be great.

Gonna be interesting to see how it goes. It really is a tough schedule ahead. Starts with the 4-game West Coast trip after New Years. There really aren't many "gimme" games on the schedule in January either, maybe just 2 of them the whole month?

[SHAQATTACK]

r/bostonceltics
Boston Celtics
Joe Mazzulla on the Celtics tough schedule coming up in the midst of their recent struggles: I'm actually really excited about it. It's going to be fun. It's going to be great.

Gonna be interesting to see how it goes. It really is a tough schedule ahead. Starts with the 4-game West Coast trip after New Years. There really aren't many "gimme" games on the schedule in January either, maybe just 2 of them the whole month?

Wonder how many games KP plays before is flown back to Boston for season ending surgery.

[Vermont Green]

Nets are selling.

Trade Springer + two second round picks for Day'Ron Sharpe. Then bring back Lonnie Walker

Should we just trade Tillman for D Sharpe?

We are not getting any use of him anyway.

We can't take back more salary than we send out, so Springer works but Tillman doesn't.

Is Sharpe any better than Oshae Brissett?  Would Sharpe play over Quetta?

Sharpe is a 6'9"/ 265lb center. He and Brissett would have different roles. Not sure Day'ron would play over Quetta and we already have Luke as a primary backup C.  Doesn't seem like adding Sharpe makes sense for this team.  Would rather bring in a backup PF.

I asked because I am not familiar with his game.  But if he is behind Queta on the depth chart as you suggest, it is hard to see him helping much.  And it is also true the the need at PF is greater than the need at C, even with Porzingis out.  I don't think we have even one true PF that is rotation quality.  Tatum is a wing that can play PF.  Horford is more C than PF.  Kornet and Queta are clearly Centers, not PFs.  Tillman is a natural PF but can't play.  And Porzingis is probably more C than PF.

That is why to me, it makes more sense to just sign Brissett, if he would be willing to come here, and keep Springer.  Here is how I see things:

Guards:   White, Holiday, Pritchard, Springer, (Davison)
Wings:    Tatum, Brown, Hauser, Walsh, Scheierman, (Peterson?)
Bigs:       Porzingis, Horford, Kornet, Queta, Tillman

Springer gives us a solid emergency guard.  If we trade him, it becomes Davison.  Our wing rotation is good if Hauser is healthy, but Brissett could help with that, Sharpe does not.  Brissett could slot ahead of Walsh.  And a new player is only going to make our big rotation better if that player is better than Queta or Kornet.  Brissett is probably only about as good as Queta, but offers different position flexibility.

Lonnie Walker measured 6'-3.75" coming out of college.  Career 35.6 3P%.  I guess what people want to do is trade Springer (and some draft capital) and replace him with Walker.  Then Walker becomes our emergency guard, 4th guard on the depth chart.  I don't have a problem with that if we get an actual useful player for Springer.  Just not sure that Sharpe + Walker - a Pick is better than Brissett + Springer.

[Roy H.]

^ Springer isn't a solid guard, though.  He's a $4 million hit to the budget who is unplayable.

[keevsnick]

The season series against the Pacer's is now over, Pacers take it at 2-1.

The Pacer's have played the Celtics tough the last two years. 4-4 vs the Celtics in the regular season. Celtics of course swept them in the ECF but three of those wins were by 5, 3 and 3 points.

Since the start of the 20222-2023 season, ie the Mazzula era, the Pacers are 5-6 vs the Celtics in the regular season. Only the Cav's at 5-4 and Magic at 5-3 have fared better in the regular season in the East, the only two teams over .500 in that stretch in the East against the Celtics.

[Goldstar88]

^ Springer isn't a solid guard, though.  He's a $4 million hit to the budget who is unplayable.

He?s like a poor man?s Avery Bradley that can?t shoot. They better move him by the trade deadline.

[ozgod]

^ Springer isn't a solid guard, though.  He's a $4 million hit to the budget who is unplayable.

His only purpose on this roster is as a trade chip. He?s regally the only guy we have in that salary bracket that, along with picks to sweeten the deal,might be able to fetch someone half decent. So I?m guessing Brad will wait till he is absolutely sure of the need before moving him.

He?s like a poor man?s Avery Bradley that can?t shoot. They better move him by the trade deadline.

[celticinorlando]

They have to have a playable wing off the bench...esp with guys hurt and Hauser sucking. Walsh isn't it.

Trade Springer.

[Surferdad]

Nets are selling.

Trade Springer + two second round picks for Day'Ron Sharpe. Then bring back Lonnie Walker

Should we just trade Tillman for D Sharpe?

We are not getting any use of him anyway.

We can't take back more salary than we send out, so Springer works but Tillman doesn't.

Is Sharpe any better than Oshae Brissett?  Would Sharpe play over Quetta?

Sharpe is a 6'9"/ 265lb center. He and Brissett would have different roles. Not sure Day'ron would play over Quetta and we already have Luke as a primary backup C.  Doesn't seem like adding Sharpe makes sense for this team.  Would rather bring in a backup PF.

I asked because I am not familiar with his game.  But if he is behind Queta on the depth chart as you suggest, it is hard to see him helping much.  And it is also true the the need at PF is greater than the need at C, even with Porzingis out.  I don't think we have even one true PF that is rotation quality.  Tatum is a wing that can play PF.  Horford is more C than PF.  Kornet and Queta are clearly Centers, not PFs.  Tillman is a natural PF but can't play.  And Porzingis is probably more C than PF.

That is why to me, it makes more sense to just sign Brissett, if he would be willing to come here, and keep Springer.  Here is how I see things:

Guards:   White, Holiday, Pritchard, Springer, (Davison)
Wings:    Tatum, Brown, Hauser, Walsh, Scheierman, (Peterson?)
Bigs:       Porzingis, Horford, Kornet, Queta, Tillman

Springer gives us a solid emergency guard.  If we trade him, it becomes Davison.  Our wing rotation is good if Hauser is healthy, but Brissett could help with that, Sharpe does not.  Brissett could slot ahead of Walsh.  And a new player is only going to make our big rotation better if that player is better than Queta or Kornet.  Brissett is probably only about as good as Queta, but offers different position flexibility.

Lonnie Walker measured 6'-3.75" coming out of college.  Career 35.6 3P%.  I guess what people want to do is trade Springer (and some draft capital) and replace him with Walker.  Then Walker becomes our emergency guard, 4th guard on the depth chart.  I don't have a problem with that if we get an actual useful player for Springer.  Just not sure that Sharpe + Walker - a Pick is better than Brissett + Springer.

VG, your post is nicely detailed but is a bit confusing to me. You were talking about players suited to individual positions like PF, C etc but then lumped them together as Bigs in your depth chart. Also you did not include Brissett in your depth chart even though you think he makes good sense for a signing.  Are you saying Brissett is a PF?

[Vermont Green]

VG, your post is nicely detailed but is a bit confusing to me. You were talking about players suited to individual positions like PF, C etc but then lumped them together as Bigs in your depth chart. Also you did not include Brissett in your depth chart even though you think he makes good sense for a signing.  Are you saying Brissett is a PF?

Brissett is a versatile player who can give you minutes at a few different positions without really being a natural for any position.  So yes, Brissett can give you minutes at PF and could be a better match up than Queta in certain situations.  He can also play as a wing and could be some insurance for Hauser's back; kind of a little bigger version of Walsh.

Of all these minor moves that are being thrown out, the one I would do is sign Brissett, if he would come back.  I don't know Day'Ron Sharpe's game all that well but I feel like Brissett would be a better fit for where our soft spots are.  Neither is going to do much in any case, they are just deeper bench emergency players.

If you could trade Springer for Sharpe straight up, no picks, that is potentially fine.  Maybe Sharpe has some ceiling, more so than Brissett, I don't know.  Then you could sign Lonnie Walker to replace Springer.  Again, I would be fine with that if it didn't cost a pick.  I like Springer + Brissett better than Walker + Sharpe but not by a wide margin.  One pair is more grit, defense, and perhaps most importantly versatility.  The other pair a little more scoring.

[Roy H.]

They have to have a playable wing off the bench...esp with guys hurt and Hauser sucking. Walsh isn't it.

Trade Springer.

I think the primary reason to trade Springer is that we could then afford to bring in a couple of free agents / buyouts.  You go from a guy giving you nothing to a couple of guys that give you slightly more than nothing.

The only quasi-impact player I can think of that we could trade Springer for, salary wise, is Walker Kessler.  He seemingly would cost at least two #1s.

[Vermont Green]

VG, your post is nicely detailed but is a bit confusing to me. You were talking about players suited to individual positions like PF, C etc but then lumped them together as Bigs in your depth chart. Also you did not include Brissett in your depth chart even though you think he makes good sense for a signing.  Are you saying Brissett is a PF?

Yeah, I know, I like to look at the roster in these 3 groupings over the traditional 5 positions but actual line ups can be any combination these days.  There are always a few players that don't quite fit though.  Brissett is one of those.  He can give you minutes as either a wing or a big, but he isn't really either.  Last season, he played more as a Big for the Celtics.

So yes, guards can be pure PG/guards or combo guards, but they are still guards to me.  Wings can be more guard wings (like Brown) or more forward wings (like Tatum), but again, all still wings.  And bigs can be PFs or Cs or a mix.

I have always felt that a starter should have a clear natural position, that is their best position, and you want them playing at that position.  With bench players, positional versatility is valuable.