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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1620 on: December 21, 2023, 02:42:04 PM »

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NBA Central: “Zach LaVine, OG Anunoby, those are two names to keep an eye on as guys that Philadelphia has monitored.” – @ShamsCharania (Via @RunItBackFDTV )

It will be interesting to see if PHI can pull off anything.  They have some pretty chunky contracts on players who aren't that good (what some would call bad contracts).  Tobias Harris ($39.2M), Marcus Morris ($17.1M), Batum ($11.7M), Covington ($11.6M).

LaVine makes $40.0M and Annunoby $18.6M but I can't see CHI or TOR wanting any of those PHI players.  It isn't clear to me how PHI is going to make a big trade.

I think the path to a trade is pretty easy, honestly.  If, say, Philly offered an expiring contract, the best of its 2026 picks, and another #1, I think they could land either player.

Maybe LaVine, he is a bad contract at this point in his own right, but why would TOR give up Annunoby for a player that would be no help or part of the future along with draft picks in 3 years or more?  Didn't they refuse to include him even for Lillard?  We'll see I guess.  I am sure that PHI will try.

I wonder how LaVine would work out on PHI.  Their most used line up to date is:

N. Batum (Oubre)
T. Harris
J. Embiid
D. Melton
T. Maxey

Oubre is in for Batum often also.  Don't see where LaVine fits in with that.  PHI would likely need to give up Harris to make it work.  They don't really need more shoot first guards.  Annunoby over Batum would be a nice upgrade, but that would still be a pretty small line up.  I never bought into Harris in the PF role, but trading him for a guard is going the wrong direction.

Maybe PHI will make a run at Zion?

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1621 on: December 21, 2023, 02:49:34 PM »

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Not sure I'd like the idea of Maxey & Lavine together.


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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1622 on: December 21, 2023, 03:00:20 PM »

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NBA Central: “Zach LaVine, OG Anunoby, those are two names to keep an eye on as guys that Philadelphia has monitored.” – @ShamsCharania (Via @RunItBackFDTV )

It will be interesting to see if PHI can pull off anything.  They have some pretty chunky contracts on players who aren't that good (what some would call bad contracts).  Tobias Harris ($39.2M), Marcus Morris ($17.1M), Batum ($11.7M), Covington ($11.6M).

LaVine makes $40.0M and Annunoby $18.6M but I can't see CHI or TOR wanting any of those PHI players.  It isn't clear to me how PHI is going to make a big trade.

I think the path to a trade is pretty easy, honestly.  If, say, Philly offered an expiring contract, the best of its 2026 picks, and another #1, I think they could land either player.

Maybe LaVine, he is a bad contract at this point in his own right, but why would TOR give up Annunoby for a player that would be no help or part of the future along with draft picks in 3 years or more?  Didn't they refuse to include him even for Lillard?  We'll see I guess.  I am sure that PHI will try.

I wonder how LaVine would work out on PHI.  Their most used line up to date is:

N. Batum (Oubre)
T. Harris
J. Embiid
D. Melton
T. Maxey

Oubre is in for Batum often also.  Don't see where LaVine fits in with that.  PHI would likely need to give up Harris to make it work.  They don't really need more shoot first guards.  Annunoby over Batum would be a nice upgrade, but that would still be a pretty small line up.  I never bought into Harris in the PF role, but trading him for a guard is going the wrong direction.

Maybe PHI will make a run at Zion?

I think the argument for Toronto trading OG is that he's an expiring contract and likely to seek a huge contract in free agency. If your Toronto are you really going to just keep running it back and get FAR more expensive at the same time even tho you aren't even .500 team?

I think purely fit wise Toronto would be better off trading Siakam and paring OG with Barnes long term. But I'm not sure Siakam has a big market.

As for Phi, they project to have huge cap space next summer. Max level. The temptation to keep their books cleans and try to get a guy via free agency is probably pretty high.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1623 on: December 21, 2023, 03:20:01 PM »

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Austin Reaves going for 15ppg 5apg 4.5rpg on 60% TS% in 30mpg for LAL.

His numbers look even better if you just look at what he has done since moving back to the bench. So he has started 9 games and come off the bench for 19 games. In those 19 games, he has a TS% of 64%. Those starts came at the start of the season so after a slow start his shooting has recovered nicely. About 50% from the floor and 40% from 3 in those 19 bench games. 89% on FTs. His minutes went down from 32mpg to 28mpg and his production went up. 15.7ppg, 5.4apg, 4.5rpg.

He has been targeted a lot on defense when he is in and that is part of the reason the lakers are underachieving.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1624 on: December 21, 2023, 04:38:08 PM »

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Not sure I'd like the idea of Maxey & Lavine together.
Yeah, me either. Philly have a nice team identity going. Not sure a me-first SG is going to improve them much. If at all.

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« Reply #1625 on: December 21, 2023, 04:41:53 PM »

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Not sure I'd like the idea of Maxey & Lavine together.
Yeah, me either. Philly have a nice team identity going. Not sure a me-first SG is going to improve them much. If at all.
If PHI trade with CHI, they should be looking at Caruso not Lavine.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1626 on: December 21, 2023, 04:45:53 PM »

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Not sure I'd like the idea of Maxey & Lavine together.
Yeah, me either. Philly have a nice team identity going. Not sure a me-first SG is going to improve them much. If at all.
If PHI trade with CHI, they should be looking at Caruso not Lavine.

Chicago will definitely try to squeeze teams dry on Caruso.  They know his value to a contender. 


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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1627 on: December 21, 2023, 05:19:45 PM »

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NBA Central: “Zach LaVine, OG Anunoby, those are two names to keep an eye on as guys that Philadelphia has monitored.” – @ShamsCharania (Via @RunItBackFDTV )

It will be interesting to see if PHI can pull off anything.  They have some pretty chunky contracts on players who aren't that good (what some would call bad contracts).  Tobias Harris ($39.2M), Marcus Morris ($17.1M), Batum ($11.7M), Covington ($11.6M).

LaVine makes $40.0M and Annunoby $18.6M but I can't see CHI or TOR wanting any of those PHI players.  It isn't clear to me how PHI is going to make a big trade.

I think the path to a trade is pretty easy, honestly.  If, say, Philly offered an expiring contract, the best of its 2026 picks, and another #1, I think they could land either player.

Maybe LaVine, he is a bad contract at this point in his own right, but why would TOR give up Annunoby for a player that would be no help or part of the future along with draft picks in 3 years or more?  Didn't they refuse to include him even for Lillard?  We'll see I guess.  I am sure that PHI will try.

I wonder how LaVine would work out on PHI.  Their most used line up to date is:

N. Batum (Oubre)
T. Harris
J. Embiid
D. Melton
T. Maxey

Oubre is in for Batum often also.  Don't see where LaVine fits in with that.  PHI would likely need to give up Harris to make it work.  They don't really need more shoot first guards.  Annunoby over Batum would be a nice upgrade, but that would still be a pretty small line up.  I never bought into Harris in the PF role, but trading him for a guard is going the wrong direction.

Maybe PHI will make a run at Zion?
LaVine?  Zion?  I know you all hate the Sixers but come on.  LaVine is lousy, worst +/- on the Bulls, and he'd be a terrible fit with Maxey.  With LaVine out, the Bulls are playing much better. 
Zion is overweight and injury prone.  He's not a good shooter or a good defender.  He doesn't bring anything that the Sixers need.  Not as bad as LaVine but the Pels are better with Zion off the court.  Anunoby at least makes a little sense and the Raptors are better with him on the court.  However he's not that much of an upgrade and is going to be costly to keep.  If they really want him, they should just go after him in free agency. 

The Sixers ought to just stand pat this season unless someone really desirable becomes available. 

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1628 on: December 21, 2023, 05:27:13 PM »

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LaVine has been disappointing. He has entered Kevin Martin territory. Big time scoring numbers & efficiency but little else. So little elsewhere that he doesn't move the line much W-L wise.

Every time I feel like the guy has taken a major step forward he ends up taking a large step backwards soon after. Undependable.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1629 on: December 21, 2023, 06:04:17 PM »

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LaVine has been disappointing. He has entered Kevin Martin territory. Big time scoring numbers & efficiency but little else. So little elsewhere that he doesn't move the line much W-L wise.

Every time I feel like the guy has taken a major step forward he ends up taking a large step backwards soon after. Undependable.

I've always seen him as an empty calorie guy.


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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1630 on: December 21, 2023, 09:17:25 PM »

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Poor Piston fans.

Another loss


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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1631 on: December 21, 2023, 09:22:33 PM »

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Pistons should be relegated to the G league.

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1632 on: December 21, 2023, 09:44:20 PM »

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Austin Reaves going for 15ppg 5apg 4.5rpg on 60% TS% in 30mpg for LAL.

His numbers look even better if you just look at what he has done since moving back to the bench. So he has started 9 games and come off the bench for 19 games. In those 19 games, he has a TS% of 64%. Those starts came at the start of the season so after a slow start his shooting has recovered nicely. About 50% from the floor and 40% from 3 in those 19 bench games. 89% on FTs. His minutes went down from 32mpg to 28mpg and his production went up. 15.7ppg, 5.4apg, 4.5rpg.

He has been targeted a lot on defense when he is in and that is part of the reason the lakers are underachieving.

Reeves getting absolutely torched on defense again giving up everything he gets as the lakers appear poised to extend their skid. He really needs to hit the weight room if he wants to be a serious player

Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1633 on: December 21, 2023, 10:48:17 PM »

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Thunder beat the Clippers and are now 18-8 on the season. Second best record in the West. They are a fun team.
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Re: NBA Season 2023-24
« Reply #1634 on: December 21, 2023, 11:46:26 PM »

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Pistons should be relegated to the G league.

Worst team in the league with the highest paid coach? Go figure.