2023-2024 NCAAF Official Thread

[mobilija]

This is why college football championship is a joke.

Undefeated and still don't get in. Especially to get bumped by a team that already played and lost to a team thats in. The championship is played on paper, actual games don't matter.

Just go back to random bowl games that are fun instead of a championship based on a popularity contest.

[green_bballers13]

If Florida State beats Georgia, I'm guessing they are going to get a lot of 1st place votes.  Committee set up the potential for a real controversy there and a split national championship.  Good job, morons.

What are you talking about? FSU is going to beat Georgia? Did you watch that game last night? FSU played terribly. They're not even close to a top 4 team. The ACC is weak this year, so the Strength of Schedule hurts them. If Tulane won, would you expect them to be in the playoffs?

After TCU's inclusion last year, I want the best 4 teams. That championship game was a total waste of everyone's time. Want to make the playoffs? Play someone legit.

I think the committee nailed it. We want to see good games, not participation trophies based on "perceived fairness". FSU would get trucked by all 4 teams included.

[Moranis]

If Florida State beats Georgia, I'm guessing they are going to get a lot of 1st place votes.  Committee set up the potential for a real controversy there and a split national championship.  Good job, morons.

I can't imagine the majority of voters takes an undefeated FSU over any of the top-4 after that teams beats two of the others.

For instance, if Alabama beats Georgia, Michigan and Washington in three straight, who can argue that FSU is better?

I could argue that an unbeaten team coming off a win over the 2 time defending champion should be the national champion especially over a team that lost by 2 scores at home.  Not really all that hard to argue that.

[chicagoceltic]

If Florida State beats Georgia, I'm guessing they are going to get a lot of 1st place votes.  Committee set up the potential for a real controversy there and a split national championship.  Good job, morons.

What are you talking about? FSU is going to beat Georgia? Did you watch that game last night? FSU played terribly. They're not even close to a top 4 team. The ACC is weak this year, so the Strength of Schedule hurts them. If Tulane won, would you expect them to be in the playoffs?

After TCU's inclusion last year, I want the best 4 teams. That championship game was a total waste of everyone's time. Want to make the playoffs? Play someone legit.

I think the committee nailed it. We want to see good games, not participation trophies based on "perceived fairness". FSU would get trucked by all 4 teams included.

Point of order, TCU did beat Michigan in the first round of the CFP so I don't know that you can point to their inclusion as a mistake.

[Moranis]

If Florida State beats Georgia, I'm guessing they are going to get a lot of 1st place votes.  Committee set up the potential for a real controversy there and a split national championship.  Good job, morons.

What are you talking about? FSU is going to beat Georgia? Did you watch that game last night? FSU played terribly. They're not even close to a top 4 team. The ACC is weak this year, so the Strength of Schedule hurts them. If Tulane won, would you expect them to be in the playoffs?

After TCU's inclusion last year, I want the best 4 teams. That championship game was a total waste of everyone's time. Want to make the playoffs? Play someone legit.

I think the committee nailed it. We want to see good games, not participation trophies based on "perceived fairness". FSU would get trucked by all 4 teams included.

As has been mentioned, TCU won their 1st round game last year.

And I watched some of the game last night and saw a team beat a ranked team by double digits with their 3rd string freshman QB.  Their 2nd string QB should be back for the post season.  I don't think they will beat Georgia, but they certainly could, and if they do it opens up unnecessary controversy. 

FSU beat LSU by 21 at a neutral site.  Much more impressive than Bama's 14 point win at home against the Tigers (when they were trailing midway through the 3rd quarter). They also beat Florida in the Swamp.

The ACC is 6-4 against the SEC this year, so for such a perceived weak conference, they've won the head to head against the perceived best conference. 

It is an absolute travesty that FSU is not in and the committee told us just last week that FLorida State was better than Texas and Alabama.  Are you telling me that Texas' win over Oklahoma State really made that sort of difference? Give me a break.  FSU should be 3rd. Period.

[johnnygreen]

I think the committee got it right. FSU is simply not the same team without their starting QB. I bet Georgia beats FSU by at least 21. I don't see that game being competitive.

[green_bballers13]

If Florida State beats Georgia, I'm guessing they are going to get a lot of 1st place votes.  Committee set up the potential for a real controversy there and a split national championship.  Good job, morons.

What are you talking about? FSU is going to beat Georgia? Did you watch that game last night? FSU played terribly. They're not even close to a top 4 team. The ACC is weak this year, so the Strength of Schedule hurts them. If Tulane won, would you expect them to be in the playoffs?

After TCU's inclusion last year, I want the best 4 teams. That championship game was a total waste of everyone's time. Want to make the playoffs? Play someone legit.

I think the committee nailed it. We want to see good games, not participation trophies based on "perceived fairness". FSU would get trucked by all 4 teams included.

As has been mentioned, TCU won their 1st round game last year.

And I watched some of the game last night and saw a team beat a ranked team by double digits with their 3rd string freshman QB.  Their 2nd string QB should be back for the post season.  I don't think they will beat Georgia, but they certainly could, and if they do it opens up unnecessary controversy. 

FSU beat LSU by 21 at a neutral site.  Much more impressive than Bama's 14 point win at home against the Tigers (when they were trailing midway through the 3rd quarter). They also beat Florida in the Swamp.

The ACC is 6-4 against the SEC this year, so for such a perceived weak conference, they've won the head to head against the perceived best conference. 

It is an absolute travesty that FSU is not in and the committee told us just last week that FLorida State was better than Texas and Alabama.  Are you telling me that Texas' win over Oklahoma State really made that sort of difference? Give me a break.  FSU should be 3rd. Period.

Texas' win over Bama in Bama was way better than anything FSU did this year. They are a better team. When you have a committee, there are going to be human decisions made. With only 4 teams, someone is going to feel screwed.  The process will improve next year with more teams. I think Georgia has a better claim on the 4 spot than FSU, based on strength of schedule. I don't Liberty should be included either.

[green_bballers13]

If Florida State beats Georgia, I'm guessing they are going to get a lot of 1st place votes.  Committee set up the potential for a real controversy there and a split national championship.  Good job, morons.

What are you talking about? FSU is going to beat Georgia? Did you watch that game last night? FSU played terribly. They're not even close to a top 4 team. The ACC is weak this year, so the Strength of Schedule hurts them. If Tulane won, would you expect them to be in the playoffs?

After TCU's inclusion last year, I want the best 4 teams. That championship game was a total waste of everyone's time. Want to make the playoffs? Play someone legit.

I think the committee nailed it. We want to see good games, not participation trophies based on "perceived fairness". FSU would get trucked by all 4 teams included.

Point of order, TCU did beat Michigan in the first round of the CFP so I don't know that you can point to their inclusion as a mistake.

Michigan laid an egg in that game and barely lost. Probably their worst game of the year at the wrong time. If we're talking about popularity contests, mostly everyone wanted to see an undefeated TCU team make it over Bama. There's no chance that Bama would have lost 65-7 vs Georgia. The committee thought they were doing the "right, fair" thing and it turned into a mistake.

Should Liberty deserve a spot because of their record? Strength of schedule has to count.

[Donoghus]

Cotton Bowl: Missouri v. Ohio St
Peach Bowl: Penn State v. Ole Miss
Orange Bowl: Georgia v. Florida State
Fiesta Bowl: Liberty v. Oregon

[green_bballers13]

Cotton Bowl: Missouri v. Ohio St
Peach Bowl: Penn State v. Ole Miss
Orange Bowl: Georgia v. Florida State
Fiesta Bowl: Liberty v. Oregon

I predict that Georgia beats FSU by 14+ points, putting this "controversy" to rest.

[Roy H.]

Is there anybody other than FSU fans and Moranis who think that FSU would lose by less than 14 against any of the playoff teams?

They're 12 point underdogs against Georgia.  That's going to be my first bet since sports gambling became legal in Maine.
  The only way that Georgia doesn't cover is if a bunch of their starters sit out to prepare for the draft.

[Moranis]

Is there anybody other than FSU fans and Moranis who think that FSU would lose by less than 14 against any of the playoff teams?

They're 12 point underdogs against Georgia.  That's going to be my first bet since sports gambling became legal in Maine.
  The only way that Georgia doesn't cover is if a bunch of their starters sit out to prepare for the draft.

I'm not saying FSU will win, I'm saying FSU should be in.  They are an unbeaten major conference champion that scheduled well in the non-con.  They played 11 games against power 5 schools and won them all.  They have wins over 13, 15, and 22 in the final rankings, no super great opponent, but that isn't horrible either.  I get the schedule is a weaker than the other 4 teams, but 2 of those teams lost, one of which lost badly at home and needed a 4th and 31 to beat a .500 team.  Texas only has 3 top 25 wins, Bama at 4 is awesome, but Okie St is 20 and KSU is 25.  They lost to #12.  Bama has played a much tougher schedule, but they lost badly to Texas. 

As I've said, I would have had FSU at 3 and Bama at 4 and left out Texas.  The Big 12 is a weak conference and Texas had a bunch of close games since the loss to OU, i.e. Houston, TCU, and KSU were all 1 score games.  Since the Clemson game in week 4, FSU has had only 1 game be a 1 score game, the rivalry game with Miami.  And FSU was winning games because of an elite defense and rushing attack.  Rodemacker actually has a higher QB rating than Travis since he took over (small sample size I know), so it isn't like they lost all that much going to the RS Junior.  Glenn, the true freshman, was actually the highest ranked recruit of the 3, but he was put in a tough spot getting his first start in the ACC championship game, but he played well enough for the Seminoles to get a 2 score victory against the 15th ranked team in the country.

FSU got shafted. Whatever credibility the committee has is gone. FSU was unbeaten and ranked 4th, won a CC by double digits, and dropped behind 2 different teams that lost a game during the season.  That is just inexcusable inconsistency.  What did any of the committee see on Saturday that changed their view of the strength of Florida St. verse the strength of Texas?  They played similar level of opponents. They both won by double digits, but one did so with a 3rd string true freshman getting his first start.  If anything, the fact that FSU keeps winning by multiple scores, proves the overall talent of the team and Rodemaker will be back for the post season. 

[Birdman]

Lot of these non playoffs teams best players won’t play line Harrison of buckeyes

[Roy H.]

Is there anybody other than FSU fans and Moranis who think that FSU would lose by less than 14 against any of the playoff teams?

They're 12 point underdogs against Georgia.  That's going to be my first bet since sports gambling became legal in Maine.
  The only way that Georgia doesn't cover is if a bunch of their starters sit out to prepare for the draft.

I'm not saying FSU will win, I'm saying FSU should be in.  They are an unbeaten major conference champion that scheduled well in the non-con.  They played 11 games against power 5 schools and won them all.  They have wins over 13, 15, and 22 in the final rankings, no super great opponent, but that isn't horrible either.  I get the schedule is a weaker than the other 4 teams, but 2 of those teams lost, one of which lost badly at home and needed a 4th and 31 to beat a .500 team.  Texas only has 3 top 25 wins, Bama at 4 is awesome, but Okie St is 20 and KSU is 25.  They lost to #12.  Bama has played a much tougher schedule, but they lost badly to Texas. 

As I've said, I would have had FSU at 3 and Bama at 4 and left out Texas.  The Big 12 is a weak conference and Texas had a bunch of close games since the loss to OU, i.e. Houston, TCU, and KSU were all 1 score games.  Since the Clemson game in week 4, FSU has had only 1 game be a 1 score game, the rivalry game with Miami.  And FSU was winning games because of an elite defense and rushing attack.  Rodemacker actually has a higher QB rating than Travis since he took over (small sample size I know), so it isn't like they lost all that much going to the RS Junior.  Glenn, the true freshman, was actually the highest ranked recruit of the 3, but he was put in a tough spot getting his first start in the ACC championship game, but he played well enough for the Seminoles to get a 2 score victory against the 15th ranked team in the country.

FSU got shafted. Whatever credibility the committee has is gone. FSU was unbeaten and ranked 4th, won a CC by double digits, and dropped behind 2 different teams that lost a game during the season.  That is just inexcusable inconsistency.  What did any of the committee see on Saturday that changed their view of the strength of Florida St. verse the strength of Texas?  They played similar level of opponents. They both won by double digits, but one did so with a 3rd string true freshman getting his first start.  If anything, the fact that FSU keeps winning by multiple scores, proves the overall talent of the team and Rodemaker will be back for the post season.

Part of the criteria is key players being out.  If the criteria was only body of work, I might agree with you.

I'm glad this will be resolved next year.

[green_bballers13]

Is there anybody other than FSU fans and Moranis who think that FSU would lose by less than 14 against any of the playoff teams?

They're 12 point underdogs against Georgia.  That's going to be my first bet since sports gambling became legal in Maine.
  The only way that Georgia doesn't cover is if a bunch of their starters sit out to prepare for the draft.

I'm not saying FSU will win, I'm saying FSU should be in.  They are an unbeaten major conference champion that scheduled well in the non-con.  They played 11 games against power 5 schools and won them all.  They have wins over 13, 15, and 22 in the final rankings, no super great opponent, but that isn't horrible either.  I get the schedule is a weaker than the other 4 teams, but 2 of those teams lost, one of which lost badly at home and needed a 4th and 31 to beat a .500 team.  Texas only has 3 top 25 wins, Bama at 4 is awesome, but Okie St is 20 and KSU is 25.  They lost to #12.  Bama has played a much tougher schedule, but they lost badly to Texas. 

As I've said, I would have had FSU at 3 and Bama at 4 and left out Texas.  The Big 12 is a weak conference and Texas had a bunch of close games since the loss to OU, i.e. Houston, TCU, and KSU were all 1 score games.  Since the Clemson game in week 4, FSU has had only 1 game be a 1 score game, the rivalry game with Miami.  And FSU was winning games because of an elite defense and rushing attack.  Rodemacker actually has a higher QB rating than Travis since he took over (small sample size I know), so it isn't like they lost all that much going to the RS Junior.  Glenn, the true freshman, was actually the highest ranked recruit of the 3, but he was put in a tough spot getting his first start in the ACC championship game, but he played well enough for the Seminoles to get a 2 score victory against the 15th ranked team in the country.

FSU got shafted. Whatever credibility the committee has is gone. FSU was unbeaten and ranked 4th, won a CC by double digits, and dropped behind 2 different teams that lost a game during the season.  That is just inexcusable inconsistency.  What did any of the committee see on Saturday that changed their view of the strength of Florida St. verse the strength of Texas?  They played similar level of opponents. They both won by double digits, but one did so with a 3rd string true freshman getting his first start.  If anything, the fact that FSU keeps winning by multiple scores, proves the overall talent of the team and Rodemaker will be back for the post season.

Part of the criteria is key players being out. If the criteria was only body of work, I might agree with you.

I'm glad this will be resolved next year.

I think this is the entire point. Everyone knows that FSU hasn't lost a game. They also know that their Heisman candidate is injured. I bet they get pounded by Georgia, and I'm guessing the committee feels the same way. This will be resolved this year and next year.