2023-2024 NCAAF Official Thread

[tazzmaniac]

IT'S OFFICIAL:

1. Michigan
2. Washington
3. Texas
4. Alabama

WOW! Florida State got robbed IMO

Florida State #5, Georgia #6.

So they went with the "4 best" instead of the "4 deserving". Sucks for Florida State, but I think not having a QB due to Travis going down did them in unfortunately. Feel for them.

Florida State didn't get robbed,  The committee's defined goal is to choose the 4 BEST teams.  Most deserving doesn't come into play.  Most deserving is just fan and media speak. 

The committee's defined criteria are: 
Conference championships won
Strength of schedule
Head-to-head competition
Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory)
Other relevant factors such as unavailability of key players and coaches that may have affected a team's performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance

Bama's SOS is 5th while FSU's is 55th.  FSU losing Travis is a major performance impact.  Based on the defined criteria, FSU isn't one of the 4 best teams.  They really should be even lower because a lot of teams could beat them right now.   

[Birdman]

Georgia or someone might beat Florida state but they earn the right to go to the playoffs by going undefeated & was in top 4 no matter if QB is out

[tazzmaniac]

There is no justification for Texas going from 7 to 3 ahead of Florida State who was 4th last week. They both had double digit victories against opponents ranked in the teens. That game doesn't make up the difference and Bama was already the best win of the 2 teams so them winning didn't do anything to the discussion.  If they were going to do this, they should have done it last week and had Texas at least ahead of Ohio State if not FSU.

Committee once again full of inconsistent nonsense

As the committee head says all the time, they start from scratch every week.  They'd prefer not to do any rankings before the last one because fans stupidly think the prior rankings matter.  Just because FSU was ranked 4th and Texas was ranked 7th doesn't mean that the committee thought there was much difference between them. 

There are at least 3 differences from last week.  Bama beating Georgia made Texas' win over Bama even better.  Texas dog stomped Okie State.  FSU didn't look anywhere close to a top 4 team in beating Louisville. 

[tazzmaniac]

I must say I was really surprised that the committee put Bama in.  I didn't think they'd have the guts to actually do it even with Travis out. 

[green_bballers13]

I must say I was really surprised that the committee put Bama in.  I didn't think they'd have the guts to actually do it even with Travis out.

Something had to change after last year's national championship. I think it was the least compelling big time event football game I've ever seen. Bama was a top 4 team last year and this year. They're making the right choice, even if Bama is the unpopular team nationally.

FSU had a case for leaving the ACC prior to this. There's an idea out there that the committee could be biased as the Seminoles haven't been a great representative during conference negotiations. They could have shot themselves in the foot, as well as their conference, considering they're leaving the ACC.

Washington and Texas are interesting inclusions as they're not always in the playoffs. Fans that are tired of the old (Georgia, Bama, Ohio St, etc) that rooted for TCU can do so with the Huskies or Longhorns.

Georgia, Ohio State, and Oregon are better than FSU, in my opinion.

[Moranis]

There is no justification for Texas going from 7 to 3 ahead of Florida State who was 4th last week. They both had double digit victories against opponents ranked in the teens. That game doesn't make up the difference and Bama was already the best win of the 2 teams so them winning didn't do anything to the discussion.  If they were going to do this, they should have done it last week and had Texas at least ahead of Ohio State if not FSU.

Committee once again full of inconsistent nonsense

As the committee head says all the time, they start from scratch every week.  They'd prefer not to do any rankings before the last one because fans stupidly think the prior rankings matter.  Just because FSU was ranked 4th and Texas was ranked 7th doesn't mean that the committee thought there was much difference between them. 

There are at least 3 differences from last week.  Bama beating Georgia made Texas' win over Bama even better.  Texas dog stomped Okie State.  FSU didn't look anywhere close to a top 4 team in beating Louisville.

FSU's defense and rushing attack absolutely looked like a top 4 team. The passing attack didn't, but it was a true freshman QB making his 1st start, he will not be their QB in the next game though. That would be a 4th year junior with a better QB rating than the starter so far this year (more yards per attempt, better TD and INT%, etc.)

Oklahoma State isn'ta good team (they lost to South Alabama and Central Florida beat them 45-3).  Every single top team including FSU would have beaten them badly.  Alabama was already the best win of either team. The game against Georgia made no difference in that analysis.

It is pure and utter nonsense from the committee. Every single one of them should be fired for that garbage.

[celticsclay]

Is there anybody other than FSU fans and Moranis who think that FSU would lose by less than 14 against any of the playoff teams?

They're 12 point underdogs against Georgia.  That's going to be my first bet since sports gambling became legal in Maine.
  The only way that Georgia doesn't cover is if a bunch of their starters sit out to prepare for the draft.

Roy the line could go either way, but there is a lot of risk in it. Both the transfer portal and nfl draft could cause massive defections for Georgia and obviously the Georgia players view this as a let down after being in top 4 all year. Could be a lot of Georgia backups against Florida state (who else could have transfers/nfl departure but probably a bigger accomplishment for their players even if snubbed).

[Donoghus]

I said it last night.  No matter what, someone was gonna get screwed today.  Unfortunately, for Florida State, it was them.

If it was Texas or Alabama on the outside, they'd have been rightfully screwed too.  All three teams had legit arguments to why they belonged.  It really was a no win situation for them.  I'm looking forward to the expanded playoff but part of me is going to miss this drama.  Sorry, but debating teams 12 & 13 are just not gonna be the same. 

The ironic thing is, in this final year of the 4 team playoff, the BCS system probably would've been the best system to determine this mess. Take out the humans.

[bricone29]

I dont feel bad for anyone associated with the Power 5.  College football had a chance to fix things right and instead just went with greed and egos

[Donoghus]

Is there anybody other than FSU fans and Moranis who think that FSU would lose by less than 14 against any of the playoff teams?

They're 12 point underdogs against Georgia.  That's going to be my first bet since sports gambling became legal in Maine.
  The only way that Georgia doesn't cover is if a bunch of their starters sit out to prepare for the draft.

Roy the line could go either way, but there is a lot of risk in it. Both the transfer portal and nfl draft could cause massive defections for Georgia and obviously the Georgia players view this as a let down after being in top 4 all year. Could be a lot of Georgia backups against Florida state (who else could have transfers/nfl departure but probably a bigger accomplishment for their players even if snubbed).

I don't want to touch that line.  Right now it's Georgia -13.5. 

Florida State's offense blows but their defense is legit and I could definitely see them dragging a kinda finess-y Georgia into a rock fight. 

And, you're right, with non-playoff bowls essentially being rendered meaningless, how many Georgia kids are gonna bow out?   

[Moranis]

Speaking of the 12 team, using the rankings we'd get

Top 4 byes
5 FSU v. 12 Liberty
6 Georgia v. 11 Miss
7 Ohio St v. 10 PSU
8 Oregon c. 9 Missou

Perhaps they'd swap PSU and Miss to avoid the rematches, but that would be some interesting games. At least if this happened FSU would essentially get a home game bye to get the QB some more experience before playing Bama in the quarters.

[Donoghus]

Speaking of the 12 team, using the rankings we'd get

Top 4 byes
5 FSU v. 12 Tulane
6 Georgia v. 11 Miss
7 Ohio St v. 10 PSU
8 Oregon c. 9 Missou

Perhaps they'd swap PSU and Miss to avoid the rematches, but that would be some interesting games. At least if this happened FSU would essentially get a home game bye to get the QB some more experience before playing Bama in the quarters.

Why would Tulane be in there?

[Moranis]

Speaking of the 12 team, using the rankings we'd get

Top 4 byes
5 FSU v. 12 Tulane
6 Georgia v. 11 Miss
7 Ohio St v. 10 PSU
8 Oregon c. 9 Missou

Perhaps they'd swap PSU and Miss to avoid the rematches, but that would be some interesting games. At least if this happened FSU would essentially get a home game bye to get the QB some more experience before playing Bama in the quarters.

Why would Tulane be in there?

I meant Liberty.  I knew it was Liberty, just had Tulane on my mind because they were in that position before losing to SMU.  I fixed the original post.

[tazzmaniac]

Speaking of the 12 team, using the rankings we'd get

Top 4 byes
5 FSU v. 12 Liberty
6 Georgia v. 11 Miss
7 Ohio St v. 10 PSU
8 Oregon c. 9 Missou

Perhaps they'd swap PSU and Miss to avoid the rematches, but that would be some interesting games. At least if this happened FSU would essentially get a home game bye to get the QB some more experience before playing Bama in the quarters.

5th spot could be the sweet spot.  Get an easy G5 opponent at home in the 1st round and then get the easiest P5 champ, probably Big12, in the 2nd round. 

[Moranis]

Speaking of the 12 team, using the rankings we'd get

Top 4 byes
5 FSU v. 12 Liberty
6 Georgia v. 11 Miss
7 Ohio St v. 10 PSU
8 Oregon c. 9 Missou

Perhaps they'd swap PSU and Miss to avoid the rematches, but that would be some interesting games. At least if this happened FSU would essentially get a home game bye to get the QB some more experience before playing Bama in the quarters.

5th spot could be the sweet spot.  Get an easy G5 opponent at home in the 1st round and then get the easiest P5 champ, probably Big12, in the 2nd round.

many years 12th isn't actually the minor conference school and one year not that long ago, 2 minor conference teams would have been in (EDITL it was the covid year 2020 and the Pac 12 didn't play enough games - Cincinnati and Coastal Carolina were the 5th and 6th highest rated champs at 9 and 12).