Free agency starts / reported signings (merged)

[Phantom255x]

Brooks talked the talk but couldn't back it up at all, and then cowardly avoided the media during the Lakers series after "challenging" Lebron and the Lakers. There were videos of him after Game 6 just going back to the hotel and acting like he didn't care but also avoiding the media and being silent despite all the talking before.

That tells me everything about him. Idk if he's actually going to be a good influence there. Ime will have to reign him in at times, I can tell.

Baffles me he got 4/80M. Who were they bidding against??

[celticsclay]

Last season laker team looks better than the upcoming laker team

I definitely agree. The reaction of a few to signing backup players from other teams has been very baffling. Lakers fans thought they could maybe get irving, trae young or Lilliard through sign and trades. They ended up with gave vincent and taurean prince and people have complained the league is unfair.

[CelticsWhat35]

Last season laker team looks better than the upcoming laker team

I definitely agree. The reaction of a few to signing backup players from other teams has been very baffling. Lakers fans thought they could maybe get irving, trae young or Lilliard through sign and trades. They ended up with gave vincent and taurean prince and people have complained the league is unfair.

I agree that the Laker off-season has been overrated, but why does last year’s team look better?  Haven’t they brought back pretty much everyone in the rotation other than Schroder?  They also added Vincent, Prince, Reddish and Hayes; nothing special but still decent and I would say they’re at least on par if not a little better than last year’s team

[Roy H.]

DiVincenzo to Knicks; 4 years $50 million

[gouki88]

DiVincenzo to Knicks; 4 years $50 million

That's a decent deal. He's a solid role player

[Celtics2021]

Last season laker team looks better than the upcoming laker team

I definitely agree. The reaction of a few to signing backup players from other teams has been very baffling. Lakers fans thought they could maybe get irving, trae young or Lilliard through sign and trades. They ended up with gave vincent and taurean prince and people have complained the league is unfair.

I agree that the Laker off-season has been overrated, but why does last year’s team look better?  Haven’t they brought back pretty much everyone in the rotation other than Schroder?  They also added Vincent, Prince, Reddish and Hayes; nothing special but still decent and I would say they’re at least on par if not a little better than last year’s team

They also lost Lonnie Walker, who was useful in the playoffs, which is probably a wash with Prince (even if they are different players).  Reddish and Hayes haven not shown anything in their careers that say they’re rotation caliber players for good teams — they’re just different deck chairs than the departed Beasley, Bamba, and Gabriel.

I’d rather bet on Vincent than Schröder at this point in their respective careers, but marginal improvements in their 7th and 9th men isn’t a home run of an off-season as some are making it out to be.

[jpotter33]

I wonder what’s taking so long on the Brown extension? Obviously that means we’re doing some sort of negotiation and not just giving the full supermax, right?

[celticsclay]

Last season laker team looks better than the upcoming laker team

I definitely agree. The reaction of a few to signing backup players from other teams has been very baffling. Lakers fans thought they could maybe get irving, trae young or Lilliard through sign and trades. They ended up with gave vincent and taurean prince and people have complained the league is unfair.

I agree that the Laker off-season has been overrated, but why does last year’s team look better?  Haven’t they brought back pretty much everyone in the rotation other than Schroder?  They also added Vincent, Prince, Reddish and Hayes; nothing special but still decent and I would say they’re at least on par if not a little better than last year’s team

They also lost Lonnie Walker, who was useful in the playoffs, which is probably a wash with Prince (even if they are different players).  Reddish and Hayes haven not shown anything in their careers that say they’re rotation caliber players for good teams — they’re just different deck chairs than the departed Beasley, Bamba, and Gabriel.

I’d rather bet on Vincent than Schröder at this point in their respective careers, but marginal improvements in their 7th and 9th men isn’t a home run of an off-season as some are making it out to be.

Very well said even if I disagree in Schroeder and Vincent. Tp. Lakers needed a big but to catch up to nuggets (and maybe a healthy suns team). Lebrons 10% decline is going to be a bigger difference than their 7th or 8th man. Also they had unusually good health from Davis in the playoffs last year. That is far from a guarantee. Even a player like beal would have helped immensely for taking pressure off Lebron who they can’t ask to do what they did last year anymore.

[Phantom255x]

Last season laker team looks better than the upcoming laker team

I definitely agree. The reaction of a few to signing backup players from other teams has been very baffling. Lakers fans thought they could maybe get irving, trae young or Lilliard through sign and trades. They ended up with gave vincent and taurean prince and people have complained the league is unfair.

I agree that the Laker off-season has been overrated, but why does last year’s team look better?  Haven’t they brought back pretty much everyone in the rotation other than Schroder?  They also added Vincent, Prince, Reddish and Hayes; nothing special but still decent and I would say they’re at least on par if not a little better than last year’s team

They also lost Lonnie Walker, who was useful in the playoffs, which is probably a wash with Prince (even if they are different players).  Reddish and Hayes haven not shown anything in their careers that say they’re rotation caliber players for good teams — they’re just different deck chairs than the departed Beasley, Bamba, and Gabriel.

I’d rather bet on Vincent than Schröder at this point in their respective careers, but marginal improvements in their 7th and 9th men isn’t a home run of an off-season as some are making it out to be.

Very well said even if I disagree in Schroeder and Vincent. Tp. Lakers needed a big but to catch up to nuggets (and maybe a healthy suns team). Lebrons 10% decline is going to be a bigger difference than their 7th or 8th man. Also they had unusually good health from Davis in the playoffs last year. That is far from a guarantee. Even a player like beal would have helped immensely for taking pressure off Lebron who they can’t ask to do what they did last year anymore.

Ultimately I still think it's mostly going to come down to the health of Lebron and AD. Lebron isn't Lebron anymore, which is completely understandable since he's 39 years old. But they definitely need the help around him more so than previous Lebron teams (Cavs, Heat), so if AD gets hurt or they suffer multiple injuries across the roster, it'll hurt them.

They had an awesome 2nd half last year and a deep run thanks to AD returning healthy, and also their acquisitions at the deadline as well as Reaves taking that step. Idk if Reaves will continue to improve or if this is his ceiling though.

[Celtics2021]

I wonder what’s taking so long on the Brown extension? Obviously that means we’re doing some sort of negotiation and not just giving the full supermax, right?

Probably?  Jaylen’s team could be asking for options or trade kickers the Celtics don’t feel comfortable with, or the Celtics could try to insert their own option that Jaylen’s team doesn’t feel comfortable with.  Or they want to give him a physical before announcing it, because it’s a giant deal and you want to make sure there isn’t something you’ve missed with his health.

[gouki88]

Last season laker team looks better than the upcoming laker team

I definitely agree. The reaction of a few to signing backup players from other teams has been very baffling. Lakers fans thought they could maybe get irving, trae young or Lilliard through sign and trades. They ended up with gave vincent and taurean prince and people have complained the league is unfair.

I agree that the Laker off-season has been overrated, but why does last year’s team look better?  Haven’t they brought back pretty much everyone in the rotation other than Schroder?  They also added Vincent, Prince, Reddish and Hayes; nothing special but still decent and I would say they’re at least on par if not a little better than last year’s team

They also lost Lonnie Walker, who was useful in the playoffs, which is probably a wash with Prince (even if they are different players).  Reddish and Hayes haven not shown anything in their careers that say they’re rotation caliber players for good teams — they’re just different deck chairs than the departed Beasley, Bamba, and Gabriel.

I’d rather bet on Vincent than Schröder at this point in their respective careers, but marginal improvements in their 7th and 9th men isn’t a home run of an off-season as some are making it out to be.

Especially when you factor in the decline of LeBron & the injury likelihood of Davis. LeBron was good in the playoffs, but he doesn't have the physical capacity to take over games like he used to. He's still a high level offensive force, but he doesn't get to the line much, doesn't finish as well inside the arc, and his shooting isn't as good because defenders can get more up in his face. His defence is also quite suspect. Don't think any of that will improve next season.

I'm sure Davis will have another good year, but he isn't consistent enough as a #1 option anymore.

[celticsclay]

Last season laker team looks better than the upcoming laker team

I definitely agree. The reaction of a few to signing backup players from other teams has been very baffling. Lakers fans thought they could maybe get irving, trae young or Lilliard through sign and trades. They ended up with gave vincent and taurean prince and people have complained the league is unfair.

I agree that the Laker off-season has been overrated, but why does last year’s team look better?  Haven’t they brought back pretty much everyone in the rotation other than Schroder?  They also added Vincent, Prince, Reddish and Hayes; nothing special but still decent and I would say they’re at least on par if not a little better than last year’s team

They also lost Lonnie Walker, who was useful in the playoffs, which is probably a wash with Prince (even if they are different players).  Reddish and Hayes haven not shown anything in their careers that say they’re rotation caliber players for good teams — they’re just different deck chairs than the departed Beasley, Bamba, and Gabriel.

I’d rather bet on Vincent than Schröder at this point in their respective careers, but marginal improvements in their 7th and 9th men isn’t a home run of an off-season as some are making it out to be.

Especially when you factor in the decline of LeBron & the injury likelihood of Davis. LeBron was good in the playoffs, but he doesn't have the physical capacity to take over games like he used to. He's still a high level offensive force, but he doesn't get to the line much, doesn't finish as well inside the arc, and his shooting isn't as good because defenders can get more up in his face. His defence is also quite suspect. Don't think any of that will improve next season.

I'm sure Davis will have another good year, but he isn't consistent enough as a #1 option anymore.

Agree 100%. Lakers needed a significant improvement this off-season to offset lebrons aging and provide a reliable backup to Davis. Jackson hayes and gabe vincent are not it. I have to imagine Lebron isn’t thrilled based on how vocal he has been about getting irving through back channels.

[ozgod]

Brooks talked the talk but couldn't back it up at all, and then cowardly avoided the media during the Lakers series after "challenging" Lebron and the Lakers. There were videos of him after Game 6 just going back to the hotel and acting like he didn't care but also avoiding the media and being silent despite all the talking before.

That tells me everything about him. Idk if he's actually going to be a good influence there. Ime will have to reign him in at times, I can tell.

Baffles me he got 4/80M. Who were they bidding against??

Well it's Houston, they got money to spend and nobody to spend it on I guess

[obnoxiousmime]

Last season laker team looks better than the upcoming laker team

I definitely agree. The reaction of a few to signing backup players from other teams has been very baffling. Lakers fans thought they could maybe get irving, trae young or Lilliard through sign and trades. They ended up with gave vincent and taurean prince and people have complained the league is unfair.

I agree that the Laker off-season has been overrated, but why does last year’s team look better?  Haven’t they brought back pretty much everyone in the rotation other than Schroder?  They also added Vincent, Prince, Reddish and Hayes; nothing special but still decent and I would say they’re at least on par if not a little better than last year’s team

They also lost Lonnie Walker, who was useful in the playoffs, which is probably a wash with Prince (even if they are different players).  Reddish and Hayes haven not shown anything in their careers that say they’re rotation caliber players for good teams — they’re just different deck chairs than the departed Beasley, Bamba, and Gabriel.

I’d rather bet on Vincent than Schröder at this point in their respective careers, but marginal improvements in their 7th and 9th men isn’t a home run of an off-season as some are making it out to be.

Especially when you factor in the decline of LeBron & the injury likelihood of Davis. LeBron was good in the playoffs, but he doesn't have the physical capacity to take over games like he used to. He's still a high level offensive force, but he doesn't get to the line much, doesn't finish as well inside the arc, and his shooting isn't as good because defenders can get more up in his face. His defence is also quite suspect. Don't think any of that will improve next season.

I'm sure Davis will have another good year, but he isn't consistent enough as a #1 option anymore.

Agree 100%. Lakers needed a significant improvement this off-season to offset lebrons aging and provide a reliable backup to Davis. Jackson hayes and gabe vincent are not it. I have to imagine Lebron isn’t thrilled based on how vocal he has been about getting irving through back channels.

I don't know what people are expecting. It's extremely difficult to build a contender around an aging superstar that is still paid like a young superstar and another one that is often hurt. If they listened to James' wishes every time an expensive guard became available, the team would be even shallower than it is now. I'm not saying the Lakers front office haven't made their share of mistakes, but they just miraculously filled out a roster that was bone dry of talent during the Westbrook experiment.

If we had traded for and rehabilitated Rui Hachimura last year or found an Austin Reeves out of nowhere, Celtics fans would be building a statue of Brad Stevens.

[hpantazo]

Darn. Jeff Green signed with Houston for a 1 year, 6 million dollar deal. I would have really liked him in Boston but Houston overpaying for role players again.