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Re: Free agency starts / reported signings (merged)
« Reply #345 on: July 01, 2023, 04:09:34 PM »

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I am puzzled how the lakers can afford to sign all these players

Pretty sure Vincent and Prince were with the MLE; everyone else was either bird rights or vet min I think

Vincent is a better player than Strus and has no business getting a worse deal. Reaves is better than both of them and is honesty probably getting paid under the table. I cannot believe no team made the Lakers match an offer. They Lakers went out and dumped a bad Westbrook deal and actually improved their asset accumulation even more. All the while LeGM will gladly trade them for an upgrade and no one will say a peep.

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« Reply #346 on: July 01, 2023, 04:13:54 PM »

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I am puzzled how the lakers can afford to sign all these players

Pretty sure Vincent and Prince were with the MLE; everyone else was either bird rights or vet min I think

Vincent is a better player than Strus and has no business getting a worse deal. Reaves is better than both of them and is honesty probably getting paid under the table. I cannot believe no team made the Lakers match an offer. They Lakers went out and dumped a bad Westbrook deal and actually improved their asset accumulation even more. All the while LeGM will gladly trade them for an upgrade and no one will say a peep.

Strauss is a significantly better shooter than Vincent. I am sure lakers would have rather had Strus than vincent. Also vincent is a downgrade from Schroeder imo. Not really shaking in my boots over them getting prince either. We have had a much better offseason getting porzingas. It always amazes me how much people juice up the lakers moves on here.

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« Reply #347 on: July 01, 2023, 04:23:08 PM »

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Bryant to Miami.  They've stolen two of my targets in JRich and Bryant.

Everyone wants Miami or LAL. It’s annoying.

It's beyond annoying—it's unfair. The NBA might as well move all of its cold-weather teams to warm-weather locations, then there'd be a more level playing field in free agency. Big free agents are probably never going to want to go to places like Sacto and Minny anyway, but then add in bad weather and those teams have even less of a chance of landing anyone of significance.
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« Reply #348 on: July 01, 2023, 04:26:25 PM »

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Meanwhile, we're gonna give Brown 60Mil a year to dribble off his foot. SMH

Look around the league, 60million for brown is not bad. Fans always get up in a tizzy about these things. But salary inflation in the NBA is real.

The contract will look reasonable in a couple years when other guys are making more.

I remember when fans thought browns original extension was a bad deal....and Robert Williams deal....

Rob's deal would look a lot better if he could actually play more than 50% of the time.
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« Reply #349 on: July 01, 2023, 04:27:57 PM »

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I am puzzled how the lakers can afford to sign all these players

Pretty sure Vincent and Prince were with the MLE; everyone else was either bird rights or vet min I think

Vincent is a better player than Strus and has no business getting a worse deal. Reaves is better than both of them and is honesty probably getting paid under the table. I cannot believe no team made the Lakers match an offer. They Lakers went out and dumped a bad Westbrook deal and actually improved their asset accumulation even more. All the while LeGM will gladly trade them for an upgrade and no one will say a peep.

Strauss is a significantly better shooter than Vincent. I am sure lakers would have rather had Strus than vincent. Also vincent is a downgrade from Schroeder imo. Not really shaking in my boots over them getting prince either. We have had a much better offseason getting porzingas. It always amazes me how much people juice up the lakers moves on here.

Vincent at $11 million is much better value and was harder to guard over Lowry. He’s a pretty good role playing PG.

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« Reply #350 on: July 01, 2023, 04:31:59 PM »

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Bryant to Miami.  They've stolen two of my targets in JRich and Bryant.

Everyone wants Miami or LAL. It’s annoying.

It's beyond annoying—it's unfair. The NBA might as well move all of its cold-weather teams to warm-weather locations, then there'd be a more level playing field in free agency. Big free agents are probably never going to want to go to places like Sacto and Minny anyway, but then add in bad weather and those teams have even less of a chance of landing anyone of significance.

The lakers have one title (in a bubble) and one totals finals appearance in the last 13 years. Doesn’t seem that unfair

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« Reply #351 on: July 01, 2023, 04:33:17 PM »

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I am puzzled how the lakers can afford to sign all these players

Pretty sure Vincent and Prince were with the MLE; everyone else was either bird rights or vet min I think

Vincent is a better player than Strus and has no business getting a worse deal. Reaves is better than both of them and is honesty probably getting paid under the table. I cannot believe no team made the Lakers match an offer. They Lakers went out and dumped a bad Westbrook deal and actually improved their asset accumulation even more. All the while LeGM will gladly trade them for an upgrade and no one will say a peep.

I really don’t get freaking out over them adding a bench guard and wing that has largely been irrelevant throughout his career. What exactly is happening here? They lost Schroeder as well. This is hardly a haul.

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« Reply #352 on: July 01, 2023, 04:38:43 PM »

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I am puzzled how the lakers can afford to sign all these players

Pretty sure Vincent and Prince were with the MLE; everyone else was either bird rights or vet min I think

Vincent is a better player than Strus and has no business getting a worse deal. Reaves is better than both of them and is honesty probably getting paid under the table. I cannot believe no team made the Lakers match an offer. They Lakers went out and dumped a bad Westbrook deal and actually improved their asset accumulation even more. All the while LeGM will gladly trade them for an upgrade and no one will say a peep.

I really don’t get freaking out over them adding a bench guard and wing that has largely been irrelevant throughout his career. What exactly is happening here? They lost Schroeder as well. This is hardly a haul.

Nobody else in the league adds those two guys for $25 million, hence the problem. Those two are better fits than Schroeder has ever been anywhere, never cared for him.

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« Reply #353 on: July 01, 2023, 04:42:11 PM »

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Bryant to Miami.  They've stolen two of my targets in JRich and Bryant.

Everyone wants Miami or LAL. It’s annoying.

It's beyond annoying—it's unfair. The NBA might as well move all of its cold-weather teams to warm-weather locations, then there'd be a more level playing field in free agency. Big free agents are probably never going to want to go to places like Sacto and Minny anyway, but then add in bad weather and those teams have even less of a chance of landing anyone of significance.

The lakers have one title (in a bubble) and one totals finals appearance in the last 13 years. Doesn’t seem that unfair

But they're always just one deal away from contending. Boston has to strategize and scheme and work hard to get good and stay good, while the Lakers just wait for great players to become free agents or force a trade to L.A.
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Re: Free agency starts / reported signings (merged)
« Reply #354 on: July 01, 2023, 04:54:05 PM »

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Bryant to Miami.  They've stolen two of my targets in JRich and Bryant.

Everyone wants Miami or LAL. It’s annoying.

It's beyond annoying—it's unfair. The NBA might as well move all of its cold-weather teams to warm-weather locations, then there'd be a more level playing field in free agency. Big free agents are probably never going to want to go to places like Sacto and Minny anyway, but then add in bad weather and those teams have even less of a chance of landing anyone of significance.

The lakers have one title (in a bubble) and one totals finals appearance in the last 13 years. Doesn’t seem that unfair

But they're always just one deal away from contending. Boston has to strategize and scheme and work hard to get good and stay good, while the Lakers just wait for great players to become free agents or force a trade to L.A.

Any time you think they are out of the picture they miraculously show up again. Everyone saw what they were when they actually tried to develop a contender. It was too hard and they traded it all away for guys that wanted to live in LA.

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« Reply #355 on: July 01, 2023, 04:54:38 PM »

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I am puzzled how the lakers can afford to sign all these players

Pretty sure Vincent and Prince were with the MLE; everyone else was either bird rights or vet min I think

Vincent is a better player than Strus and has no business getting a worse deal. Reaves is better than both of them and is honesty probably getting paid under the table. I cannot believe no team made the Lakers match an offer. They Lakers went out and dumped a bad Westbrook deal and actually improved their asset accumulation even more. All the while LeGM will gladly trade them for an upgrade and no one will say a peep.

I really don’t get freaking out over them adding a bench guard and wing that has largely been irrelevant throughout his career. What exactly is happening here? They lost Schroeder as well. This is hardly a haul.

Nobody else in the league adds those two guys for $25 million, hence the problem. Those two are better fits than Schroeder has ever been anywhere, never cared for him.

You are basically floating a conspiracy theory here. Vincent has made 3.5 million in his entire career. You really believe he took a pay cut on his first and perhaps only big contract? Maybe someone else offered him a million more or something but thinking he turned down a big pay day in his situation in his situation is pretty wild concept. Prince is obviously not as an insane situation career earnings but he is 28 and was just bought out for 7 million cause twolves couldn’t find anyone that would give up an asset for him at that salary. This is his worth he is a flawed wing that couldn’t make a difference on multiple teams starved for wing depth. The idea these guys took big pay cuts in their situation is frankly fairly ridiculous.

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« Reply #356 on: July 01, 2023, 04:58:35 PM »

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Reaves agrees to 4 year deal with Lakers.
4yrs $56mil is a bargain. Only $14mil per season. Just over the MLE.

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« Reply #357 on: July 01, 2023, 05:00:23 PM »

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Meanwhile, we're gonna give Brown 60Mil a year to dribble off his foot. SMH

Look around the league, 60million for brown is not bad. Fans always get up in a tizzy about these things. But salary inflation in the NBA is real.

The contract will look reasonable in a couple years when other guys are making more.

I remember when fans thought browns original extension was a bad deal....and Robert Williams deal....

Yeah, I wonder about that too. I do think it is a bit of an eye-sore today but will it be just kinda bad in 2-3yrs time.

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« Reply #358 on: July 01, 2023, 05:04:29 PM »

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Reaves agrees to 4 year deal with Lakers.
4yrs $56mil is a bargain. Only $14mil per season. Just over the MLE.

Unlike their other deals I agree this was actually a bargain for them and worked out well/lucky.

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« Reply #359 on: July 01, 2023, 05:06:07 PM »

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Bryant to Miami.  They've stolen two of my targets in JRich and Bryant.

Everyone wants Miami or LAL. It’s annoying.

It's beyond annoying—it's unfair. The NBA might as well move all of its cold-weather teams to warm-weather locations, then there'd be a more level playing field in free agency. Big free agents are probably never going to want to go to places like Sacto and Minny anyway, but then add in bad weather and those teams have even less of a chance of landing anyone of significance.

The lakers have one title (in a bubble) and one totals finals appearance in the last 13 years. Doesn’t seem that unfair

But they're always just one deal away from contending. Boston has to strategize and scheme and work hard to get good and stay good, while the Lakers just wait for great players to become free agents or force a trade to L.A.

RR is spot on.  Every other team spends decades trying with strategy and luck to nurture something LAL always had access to. The Lakers create cap room and they get a top 10 or top 5 player. Their future assets are always expendable and they often only have to sit back and let players tell them they want to be there. They can manipulate value in trades just as Miami will probably be able to do with Lillard.  It’s not that there is no competition for players, it’s that LAL has a constant leg up, a perennially easier pathway to contention.

And if you take the Laker “slump” of the last 13 years and offer it to almost every other franchise, how many say ‘no’ to 1 title and one finals appearance?    The answer is Miami, Cleveland, GSW and San Antonio.  And there might be something in common with the first 2 on the list. That thing in common decided he wanted to play for the Lakers.