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Re: NBA Off-Season News
« Reply #330 on: August 20, 2023, 08:56:45 PM »

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Anthony Edwards, who has used these past three weeks to show off his potential as a leading man, was brilliant offensively and defensively. He fired in 34 points on 11-of-20 shooting and was part of the swarming defensive effort late that won the game.

"He's unquestionably the guy," Team USA coach Steve Kerr said of Edwards. "You can see he knows it. But now the team knows it, and I think the fans see it. ... He genuinely believes he's the best player in the gym every single night. And he's such a dynamic young player. I think he's taking a leap."

More and more noise about this guy taking a huge leap next season. Maybe a top 10 player in the league. Maybe an MVP.

Looks like he is starting this off with Team USA.

Re: NBA Off-Season News
« Reply #331 on: August 20, 2023, 09:14:51 PM »

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Which is why Towns may be available because they aren't a great fit and the Wolves need to recoup some assets. 

Don't think Boston can do it, but I'd absolutely do something like this

Boston - Towns
Golden State - Rob
Minnesota - Brogdon, Moody, Payton, 24 GS, 24 BOS, 26 BOS, 28 BOS
2nd Trade - Boston takes Milton into the Grant TPE for a highly protected 2nd

So Post Trade (1 open spot)
Starters - White, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis, Towns
Main Rotation - Pritchard, Milton, Hauser, Brisset, Horford
Deep Bench - Davison, Banton, Scrubb, Walsh, Champagnie, Kornet
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« Reply #332 on: August 20, 2023, 11:54:42 PM »

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Which is why Towns may be available because they aren't a great fit and the Wolves need to recoup some assets. 

Don't think Boston can do it, but I'd absolutely do something like this

Boston - Towns
Golden State - Rob
Minnesota - Brogdon, Moody, Payton, 24 GS, 24 BOS, 26 BOS, 28 BOS
2nd Trade - Boston takes Milton into the Grant TPE for a highly protected 2nd

So Post Trade (1 open spot)
Starters - White, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis, Towns
Main Rotation - Pritchard, Milton, Hauser, Brisset, Horford
Deep Bench - Davison, Banton, Scrubb, Walsh, Champagnie, Kornet

Love it, but I think that 28 pick is already on the way to SAS for D White.

I think Minny probably find a better deal than that, and with a team who wouldn't be guaranteed to be a conference finalist every year for the next 5 years.
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« Reply #333 on: August 21, 2023, 12:16:21 AM »

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Which is why Towns may be available because they aren't a great fit and the Wolves need to recoup some assets. 

Don't think Boston can do it, but I'd absolutely do something like this

Boston - Towns
Golden State - Rob
Minnesota - Brogdon, Moody, Payton, 24 GS, 24 BOS, 26 BOS, 28 BOS
2nd Trade - Boston takes Milton into the Grant TPE for a highly protected 2nd

So Post Trade (1 open spot)
Starters - White, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis, Towns
Main Rotation - Pritchard, Milton, Hauser, Brisset, Horford
Deep Bench - Davison, Banton, Scrubb, Walsh, Champagnie, Kornet

Love it, but I think that 28 pick is already on the way to SAS for D White.

I think Minny probably find a better deal than that, and with a team who wouldn't be guaranteed to be a conference finalist every year for the next 5 years.

The Celtics still have a ‘28 pick.  It’s unclear whether it will be ours or the Spurs because of the swap (although I’d still bet on it being the C’s), but one exists and can be traded.

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« Reply #334 on: August 21, 2023, 04:19:31 PM »

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« Reply #335 on: August 21, 2023, 04:47:05 PM »

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Stephen Curry says he's the best point guard in NBA history

Golden State Warriors star Stephen Curry believes he stands at the top of the mountain when it comes to the greatest point guards in NBA history. Speaking with retired star Gilbert Arenas, Curry said Magic Johnson has a “ridiculous” résumé but that he’d put himself above the Los Angeles Lakers legend.@GilsArenaShow


It's like comparing apples & hand grenades. They played the position differently.


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« Reply #336 on: August 21, 2023, 04:48:52 PM »

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Which is why Towns may be available because they aren't a great fit and the Wolves need to recoup some assets. 

Don't think Boston can do it, but I'd absolutely do something like this

Boston - Towns
Golden State - Rob
Minnesota - Brogdon, Moody, Payton, 24 GS, 24 BOS, 26 BOS, 28 BOS
2nd Trade - Boston takes Milton into the Grant TPE for a highly protected 2nd

So Post Trade (1 open spot)
Starters - White, Brown, Tatum, Porzingis, Towns
Main Rotation - Pritchard, Milton, Hauser, Brisset, Horford
Deep Bench - Davison, Banton, Scrubb, Walsh, Champagnie, Kornet


So the Celtics trade Brogdon and RWill plus 4 picks?  For Towns?  I think that is too much.  We almost had Porzingis for just Brogdon.  So for Towns, we give up Brogdon + RWill + 4 Picks?  I get that Towns would have more value than Porzingis, but not that much more.

A Towns trade would have made much more sense before the Porzingis trade.  Don't see a need for both.  Kind of a diminishing return kind of thing.  I suspect that MIN is going to give this core a shot, I would.  I don't think it will bother Towns if Edwards becomes "the guy".  And I don't see the "fit" issue.  Towns and Edwards can play together just as easily as Tatum and Porzingis.

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« Reply #337 on: August 21, 2023, 04:49:33 PM »

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Stephen Curry says he's the best point guard in NBA history

Golden State Warriors star Stephen Curry believes he stands at the top of the mountain when it comes to the greatest point guards in NBA history. Speaking with retired star Gilbert Arenas, Curry said Magic Johnson has a “ridiculous” résumé but that he’d put himself above the Los Angeles Lakers legend.@GilsArenaShow


It's like comparing apples & hand grenades. They played the position differently.

Even in this day and age I'm still taking Magic.


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« Reply #338 on: August 21, 2023, 05:06:14 PM »

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It's like comparing apples & hand grenades. They played the position differently.

Even in this day and age I'm still taking Magic.

Magic would still dominate if he played today. An MVP candidate today just like he was back then.

Steph could not dominate if he played in the 80s. He'd be a Mark Price. A very good player. A perennial All-Star. But he'd get beaten up a lot and struggle to maintain performance levels against tougher defenses.

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« Reply #339 on: August 21, 2023, 05:08:47 PM »

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It's like comparing apples & hand grenades. They played the position differently.

Even in this day and age I'm still taking Magic.

Yeah, Curry's obviously a better shooter, but I think Magic did everything else better.
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« Reply #340 on: August 21, 2023, 05:18:17 PM »

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It's like comparing apples & hand grenades. They played the position differently.

Even in this day and age I'm still taking Magic.

Magic would still dominate if he played today. An MVP candidate today just like he was back then.

Steph could not dominate if he played in the 80s. He'd be a Mark Price. A very good player. A perennial All-Star. But he'd get beaten up a lot and struggle to maintain performance levels against tougher defenses.

It’s really impossible to compare the two.  Would Steph’s teams still allow him to take a huge volume of 3-pointers, many from well beyond the line?  Would he be even more wide open with the illegal defense rules that existed back then compared to now?  You bring up Mark Price, but Steph makes more threes per game than Price was even allowed to attempt.

The game is so different now relative to then, and Steph is a major reason why.

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« Reply #341 on: August 21, 2023, 05:23:59 PM »

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Curry is the best shooter ever but he is not better than Magic Johnson at the PG position or as a player in general.  I think some of the brilliance of Magic gets lost.  Maybe because his career was cut short a bit.  For me, Magic is in the discussion for the best player ever, right there with Jordan or James or anybody.  Magic is absolutely the best PG ever.

After Magic, sure, Curry is in the discussion with Oscar Robertson and maybe some others, probably not too many others. 

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« Reply #342 on: August 21, 2023, 05:57:16 PM »

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Curry is the best shooter ever but he is not better than Magic Johnson at the PG position or as a player in general.  I think some of the brilliance of Magic gets lost.  Maybe because his career was cut short a bit.  For me, Magic is in the discussion for the best player ever, right there with Jordan or James or anybody.  Magic is absolutely the best PG ever.

After Magic, sure, Curry is in the discussion with Oscar Robertson and maybe some others, probably not too many others.

The guy most deserved of GOAT status has made the point never to compare himself to players from different eras. Kind of disappointing to hear this from Curry, who struck me as a pretty humble dude.

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« Reply #343 on: August 21, 2023, 06:21:46 PM »

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Curry is the best shooter ever but he is not better than Magic Johnson at the PG position or as a player in general.  I think some of the brilliance of Magic gets lost.  Maybe because his career was cut short a bit.  For me, Magic is in the discussion for the best player ever, right there with Jordan or James or anybody.  Magic is absolutely the best PG ever.

After Magic, sure, Curry is in the discussion with Oscar Robertson and maybe some others, probably not too many others.

The guy most deserved of GOAT status has made the point never to compare himself to players from different eras. Kind of disappointing to hear this from Curry, who struck me as a pretty humble dude.

Yeah sometimes I wonder if curry gets underrated in all time rankings. The move by Durant didn’t just screw Durant in all time conversations, it screwed curry (and to a lesser amount the other guys). The warriors probably still win at least one title without Durant and then curry would have been the best player on three teams. As it stand he has the same amount of titles as Lebron in less seasons and they have both played with tons of top other players (Thompson, green, Durant for curry, bosh, irving, Wade, love and Davis for Lebron).

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« Reply #344 on: August 21, 2023, 06:58:11 PM »

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That 2015-2016 season by Curry is up there for one of the best ever. 30 points per game on 50/45/90 efficiency. 45.4% (!!) on 11.2 (!!!!!!) attempts per game from three which is simply outrageous. I guess maybe not for him because he almost did that a couple other times, but wow. 5 rebounds a game, 7 assists, 2 steals. For those who care about the sort of thing, 8th best WS/48 of all time. 73-9 team. Lost to the Cavaliers and Lebron in 7 games because of Draymond's hot head.

Shooting all those threes successfully while only half of them were assisted which is incredible. Imagine that -- all those threes at a high rate when you aren't even spoonfed them. You have to go off the dribble, make a guy miss, and then pull up. Hit 40% of them when a defender was within 2-4 feet.

Not an argument against Magic or that Curry is better, just going down memory lane. What a unique, incredible player. To call him Mark Price feels off the mark.
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