NBA Off-Season News

[tazzmaniac]

76ers get Paul George
Clippers get James Hadin, Korkmaz & House

Works in trade machine but doubt 76ers would do it..Damian Lillard contract also could be in play

Doubt Clippers would do that; Paul George >>> James Harden

Pandemic P or Fatman Harden

The Clippers apparently won't include Terrance Mann in a deal so they certainly wouldn't include George.  Sixers would be ecstatic to get George for Harden. 

[Vermont Green]

I don't know about either George or Leonard.  They each played only about 55 games last season.  George missed the entire playoffs.  Leonard only played 2 games I think.  If you pair one of them with Embiid, it makes things difficult.  PHI may not have much choice.  Trades are going to be hard.  PHI is close to the second apron.  I got a MIN trade to work:

Harden
for
Conley and Anderson

Not sure this makes PHI better but it is going to be really tough to trade Harden.

[Vermont Green]

Giles was drafted in 2017 but didn't play at all that season due to injury.  He actually played 3 seasons:

2018-19 (58 games)
2019-20 (46 games)
2020-21 (38 games)

So in 142 NBA games, he has averaged 5.9 pts, 3.8 rebs, with 51% FG%, 25.8 3P%, in 12.9 min/gm.  That is not terribly impressive for an NBA player, but really good for a 2-way player.  Grant Williams, for perspective, is a career 6.2 pts / 3.4 Rebs in 288 games with 21 min/gm.  The big difference for Grant of course is his 38% 3P% for his career.  Grant is 24, Giles is 25.

Maybe the Celtics believe Giles is shot, like Jabari Parker turned out to be, and that may very well be the case.  Or maybe based on his 142 NBA games, they just don't feel he is that good in any case.  He sure seems like he would be worth a 2-way contact.  He petitioned the NBA to get that status that allows him to be eligible for a 2-way contract (essentially his rookie year, where he didn't play a minute, does not count as year played for him).  Why do that if you aren't willing to take a 2-way contact?

Bumping this.

Anyone know when this workout with GSW is going to happen?  GSW definitely need some size on their roster.  They have Saric and I guess Looney, but no other real size.  Hard to believe that Giles would be the best available option for them for an actual roster spot.

[Donoghus]

Schedule release 3pm EST today per NBA PR.

[Goldstar88]

Not a big fan of KD, but this is cool to see. Pretty sure Chet was already modeling his game after him.

https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1692294617054453808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1692294617054453808%7Ctwgr%5Efd4da818af3a4336eb1dc38d3b6b5904789600b8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fhoopshype.com%2Frumors%2F

[gouki88]

Not a big fan of KD, but this is cool to see. Pretty sure Chet was already modeling his game after him.

https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1692294617054453808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1692294617054453808%7Ctwgr%5Efd4da818af3a4336eb1dc38d3b6b5904789600b8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fhoopshype.com%2Frumors%2F

For as big of a turd KD has been at times (mainly joining GSW), he does have a genuine love of the game and does a lot of work with younger guys. Saw him working out with Banchero a lot this offseason too.

[Vermont Green]

Not a big fan of KD, but this is cool to see. Pretty sure Chet was already modeling his game after him.

https://twitter.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1692294617054453808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1692294617054453808%7Ctwgr%5Efd4da818af3a4336eb1dc38d3b6b5904789600b8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fhoopshype.com%2Frumors%2F

For as big of a turd KD has been at times (mainly joining GSW), he does have a genuine love of the game and does a lot of work with younger guys. Saw him working out with Banchero a lot this offseason too.

Chet Holmgren seems like the one guy that is so skinny, he makes Durant look bulky.  Maybe that is why Durant likes to have him around.

[Birdman]

OKC waive Ty Ty Washington..can’t stay with a team, been on 4 already thru trades during offseason

[Who]

“I’ve been patient all summer,” Harden said when asked about how patient he will need to be. “For me, it’s just focus on what I can control and that’s working out, staying in shape, and getting ready for a good season.”

Wasn't he fat and out of shape in that China video from a few days ago?

[Goldstar88]

“I’ve been patient all summer,” Harden said when asked about how patient he will need to be. “For me, it’s just focus on what I can control and that’s working out, staying in shape, and getting ready for a good season.”

Wasn't he fat and out of shape in that China video from a few days ago?

Sure looked like it. I doubt he has any plans on showing up for training camp in Philly. He did the same thing when he wanted to get out of Houston. Harden is so unlikable. 

[gouki88]

“I’ve been patient all summer,” Harden said when asked about how patient he will need to be. “For me, it’s just focus on what I can control and that’s working out, staying in shape, and getting ready for a good season.”

Wasn't he fat and out of shape in that China video from a few days ago?

Might have been the fat suit

[kraidstar]

“I’ve been patient all summer,” Harden said when asked about how patient he will need to be. “For me, it’s just focus on what I can control and that’s working out, staying in shape, and getting ready for a good season.”

Wasn't he fat and out of shape in that China video from a few days ago?

Sure looked like it. I doubt he has any plans on showing up for training camp in Philly. He did the same thing when he wanted to get out of Houston. Harden is so unlikable.

He is scum. Instead of fighting for a championship he's going to torpedo his team because they wouldn't overpay him. What a piece of work.

He's set to go down as one of the biggest losers in American sports.

[SparzWizard]

“I’ve been patient all summer,” Harden said when asked about how patient he will need to be. “For me, it’s just focus on what I can control and that’s working out, staying in shape, and getting ready for a good season.”

Wasn't he fat and out of shape in that China video from a few days ago?

Sure looked like it. I doubt he has any plans on showing up for training camp in Philly. He did the same thing when he wanted to get out of Houston. Harden is so unlikable.

He is scum. Instead of fighting for a championship he's going to torpedo his team because they wouldn't overpay him. What a piece of work.

He's set to go down as one of the biggest losers in American sports.

And I thought Ben Simmons or team-stacking Kevin Durant were big losers 

[Goldstar88]

The NBA has launched an inquiry into the circumstances surrounding Philadelphia 76ers star James Harden’s public admonishment of the franchise’s President of Basketball Operations Daryl Morey, sources told ESPN. The league office is believed to be pursuing an understanding of whether Harden was portending a 2023-2024 hold out in violation of the league’s collective bargaining agreement — or had been referencing past contract discussions with the organization that might constitute salary cap circumvention, sources said. – via Adrian Wojnarowski, Ramona Shelburne @ ESPN

Per Shelburne, now on the subject of Harden potentially holding out and/or making life miserable for everyone involved: “Somebody said to me yesterday, this is only the beginning. This is just the beginning of what James Harden is going to do to make life very uncomfortable for the Philadelphia 76ers going into training camp. And I think the expectation with Harden is — Ben Simmons, they went through this with Ben Simmons, he didn’t show up to camp…. That’s not gonna happen here with James Harden. This is going to be very uncomfortable, but Ben Simmons didn’t say anything. Ben Simmons stayed home, right? …. [Harden] was with a microphone, ‘let me repeat myself.’ The phrase I kept hearing [from sources] was ‘this is just the beginning.’ And so I think the Sixers have to ask themselves what are we prepared for, how do we handle this, is there any way that they can get through this and still have a productive season?”

[tazzmaniac]

The NBA has launched an inquiry into the circumstances surrounding Philadelphia 76ers star James Harden’s public admonishment of the franchise’s President of Basketball Operations Daryl Morey, sources told ESPN. The league office is believed to be pursuing an understanding of whether Harden was portending a 2023-2024 hold out in violation of the league’s collective bargaining agreement — or had been referencing past contract discussions with the organization that might constitute salary cap circumvention, sources said. – via Adrian Wojnarowski, Ramona Shelburne @ ESPN

Per Shelburne, now on the subject of Harden potentially holding out and/or making life miserable for everyone involved: “Somebody said to me yesterday, this is only the beginning. This is just the beginning of what James Harden is going to do to make life very uncomfortable for the Philadelphia 76ers going into training camp. And I think the expectation with Harden is — Ben Simmons, they went through this with Ben Simmons, he didn’t show up to camp…. That’s not gonna happen here with James Harden. This is going to be very uncomfortable, but Ben Simmons didn’t say anything. Ben Simmons stayed home, right? …. [Harden] was with a microphone, ‘let me repeat myself.’ The phrase I kept hearing [from sources] was ‘this is just the beginning.’ And so I think the Sixers have to ask themselves what are we prepared for, how do we handle this, is there any way that they can get through this and still have a productive season?”

Nevertheless, Harden has privately indicated that his public comments calling Morey a "liar" on Monday morning had only been a response to Morey ending trade discussions with an expectation that Harden would start the season with the Sixers, sources said.

Neither the Sixers nor Harden would be in violation of any league guidelines should that be communicated to league officials.

 Philadelphia informed Harden that it hadn't found a suitable trade with his preferred destination of the LA Clippers and that it expected him to report to the team's training camp in September --- something sources say Harden plans to do. Despite public speculation, Harden has made no allegations of a previous handshake agreement with the Sixers on a future contract.

So if Harden says there weren't any illegal discussions on a future contract and he does show up to camp, this basically amounts to an overprivileged player throwing a temper tantrum because he is not getting his way. 

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/38219710/sources-nba-launches-inquiry-james-harden-situation