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Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #915 on: August 09, 2023, 08:09:32 PM »

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Was looking at Anthony Lamb's profile, looked pretty similar to Grant's, however, don know if he is still in legal trouble

Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #916 on: August 09, 2023, 08:11:56 PM »

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The NBA should stop sending stars to the Olympics and own its own International Tournament with FIBA partners, aka like somewhat what MLB and FIFA do.

Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #917 on: August 09, 2023, 09:10:04 PM »

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Typical Celtics—have multiple rotation players injured before the season even starts. ::)
Already on mid seasons form

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Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #918 on: August 10, 2023, 01:07:47 AM »

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Typical Celtics—have multiple rotation players injured before the season even starts. ::)
Already on mid seasons form

Yes, unfortunately! I just can't bring myself to hope/believe/expect that this team will ever be healthy/stay healthy when the playoffs roll around.
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Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #919 on: August 10, 2023, 08:59:31 AM »

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The NBA should stop sending stars to the Olympics and own its own International Tournament with FIBA partners, aka like somewhat what MLB and FIFA do.

I don't know about the NBA "owning" an international tournament, sounds like an interesting idea, but it is pretty clear that when players play in these summer international tournaments, that there is high risk of injury, serious injury.  The players need this rest.  It almost seems as though they are more susceptible to injury in the summer.  And even those that don't suffer an actual injury, their ability to sustain a long NBA season somehow seems diminished when they play in the summer.  I am not sure the answer, but I think there is something here that needs to be fixed.

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Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #920 on: August 10, 2023, 10:18:16 AM »

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Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #921 on: August 10, 2023, 10:25:03 AM »

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This is an idea, not news, but how about a trade with WAS to bring back Muscala to be our back up PF?  They have 16 guaranteed contracts currently, from what I can tell, so someone is going to have to go.  We could offer a second round pick highly protected and/or well in the future, and use part of the Grant Williams TPE.  I am not sure if with waiving Champagnie, if this would put us over the second apron or not. 

I would take Gallinari ($6.8M) back also but he doesn't fit the TPE and I am not sure how else we can make that work without giving up something of real value.  I guess we could trade Pritchard ($4.0M) and Kornet ($2.4M), I think that is allowed by the rules, but that doesn't help with WAS roster excess.  Maybe we would need to add a pick to WAS for this.  Gallinari would easily replace anything we were planning on from Gallinari but we would need to find another solid bench guard to replace Pritchard.  Replacing Pritchard would probably be easier than finding that elusive back up PF we need.  Kendrick Nunn for example, I think is still a FA.  Maybe we could sign him to replace Pritchard:

Possible roster:

White            Nunn             Banton
Brown           Brogdon         OPEN
Tatum           Hauser           Waslsh
Porzingis       Gallinari          Brissett
Williams        Horford           Griffin

2-ways:  Davison, Scrubb, OPEN

« Last Edit: August 10, 2023, 10:36:33 AM by Vermont Green »

Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #922 on: August 10, 2023, 10:53:20 AM »

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Stop letting guys play in these stupid tournaments

Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #923 on: August 10, 2023, 12:54:37 PM »

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This is an idea, not news, but how about a trade with WAS to bring back Muscala to be our back up PF?  They have 16 guaranteed contracts currently, from what I can tell, so someone is going to have to go.  We could offer a second round pick highly protected and/or well in the future, and use part of the Grant Williams TPE.  I am not sure if with waiving Champagnie, if this would put us over the second apron or not. 

I would take Gallinari ($6.8M) back also but he doesn't fit the TPE and I am not sure how else we can make that work without giving up something of real value.  I guess we could trade Pritchard ($4.0M) and Kornet ($2.4M), I think that is allowed by the rules, but that doesn't help with WAS roster excess.  Maybe we would need to add a pick to WAS for this.  Gallinari would easily replace anything we were planning on from Gallinari but we would need to find another solid bench guard to replace Pritchard.  Replacing Pritchard would probably be easier than finding that elusive back up PF we need.  Kendrick Nunn for example, I think is still a FA.  Maybe we could sign him to replace Pritchard:

Possible roster:

White            Nunn             Banton
Brown           Brogdon         OPEN
Tatum           Hauser           Waslsh
Porzingis       Gallinari          Brissett
Williams        Horford           Griffin

2-ways:  Davison, Scrubb, OPEN

We can’t trade for Muscala until next offseason.  You can’t trade for a player that you traded in the same season, and for these purposes, the season starts with the off-season and not the league year.

Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #924 on: August 10, 2023, 01:20:01 PM »

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This is an idea, not news, but how about a trade with WAS to bring back Muscala to be our back up PF?  They have 16 guaranteed contracts currently, from what I can tell, so someone is going to have to go.  We could offer a second round pick highly protected and/or well in the future, and use part of the Grant Williams TPE.  I am not sure if with waiving Champagnie, if this would put us over the second apron or not. 

I would take Gallinari ($6.8M) back also but he doesn't fit the TPE and I am not sure how else we can make that work without giving up something of real value.  I guess we could trade Pritchard ($4.0M) and Kornet ($2.4M), I think that is allowed by the rules, but that doesn't help with WAS roster excess.  Maybe we would need to add a pick to WAS for this.  Gallinari would easily replace anything we were planning on from Gallinari but we would need to find another solid bench guard to replace Pritchard.  Replacing Pritchard would probably be easier than finding that elusive back up PF we need.  Kendrick Nunn for example, I think is still a FA.  Maybe we could sign him to replace Pritchard:

Possible roster:

White            Nunn             Banton
Brown           Brogdon         OPEN
Tatum           Hauser           Waslsh
Porzingis       Gallinari          Brissett
Williams        Horford           Griffin

2-ways:  Davison, Scrubb, OPEN

We can’t trade for Muscala until next offseason.  You can’t trade for a player that you traded in the same season, and for these purposes, the season starts with the off-season and not the league year.
We already had Muscala. Our genius coach refused to use him. I doubt Muscala would want a repeat of the experience.

Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #925 on: August 10, 2023, 01:44:04 PM »

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This is an idea, not news, but how about a trade with WAS to bring back Muscala to be our back up PF?  They have 16 guaranteed contracts currently, from what I can tell, so someone is going to have to go.  We could offer a second round pick highly protected and/or well in the future, and use part of the Grant Williams TPE.  I am not sure if with waiving Champagnie, if this would put us over the second apron or not. 

I would take Gallinari ($6.8M) back also but he doesn't fit the TPE and I am not sure how else we can make that work without giving up something of real value.  I guess we could trade Pritchard ($4.0M) and Kornet ($2.4M), I think that is allowed by the rules, but that doesn't help with WAS roster excess.  Maybe we would need to add a pick to WAS for this.  Gallinari would easily replace anything we were planning on from Gallinari but we would need to find another solid bench guard to replace Pritchard.  Replacing Pritchard would probably be easier than finding that elusive back up PF we need.  Kendrick Nunn for example, I think is still a FA.  Maybe we could sign him to replace Pritchard:

Possible roster:

White            Nunn             Banton
Brown           Brogdon         OPEN
Tatum           Hauser           Waslsh
Porzingis       Gallinari          Brissett
Williams        Horford           Griffin

2-ways:  Davison, Scrubb, OPEN

We can’t trade for Muscala until next offseason.  You can’t trade for a player that you traded in the same season, and for these purposes, the season starts with the off-season and not the league year.

OK, so this trade was done on 23 June 2023 but that counts as done in the 2023-24 season?  The trade machine I was using (Fanspo) let me trade Muscala back to the Celtics, I figured it wasn't 100% certain.  Oh well, so much for that.

Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #926 on: August 10, 2023, 01:45:44 PM »

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This is an idea, not news, but how about a trade with WAS to bring back Muscala to be our back up PF?  They have 16 guaranteed contracts currently, from what I can tell, so someone is going to have to go.  We could offer a second round pick highly protected and/or well in the future, and use part of the Grant Williams TPE.  I am not sure if with waiving Champagnie, if this would put us over the second apron or not. 

I would take Gallinari ($6.8M) back also but he doesn't fit the TPE and I am not sure how else we can make that work without giving up something of real value.  I guess we could trade Pritchard ($4.0M) and Kornet ($2.4M), I think that is allowed by the rules, but that doesn't help with WAS roster excess.  Maybe we would need to add a pick to WAS for this.  Gallinari would easily replace anything we were planning on from Gallinari but we would need to find another solid bench guard to replace Pritchard.  Replacing Pritchard would probably be easier than finding that elusive back up PF we need.  Kendrick Nunn for example, I think is still a FA.  Maybe we could sign him to replace Pritchard:

Possible roster:

White            Nunn             Banton
Brown           Brogdon         OPEN
Tatum           Hauser           Waslsh
Porzingis       Gallinari          Brissett
Williams        Horford           Griffin

2-ways:  Davison, Scrubb, OPEN

We can’t trade for Muscala until next offseason.  You can’t trade for a player that you traded in the same season, and for these purposes, the season starts with the off-season and not the league year.

OK, so this trade was done on 23 June 2023 but that counts as done in the 2023-24 season?  The trade machine I was using (Fanspo) let me trade Muscala back to the Celtics, I figured it wasn't 100% certain.  Oh well, so much for that.

Yep, that’s the rule.  We could have traded him back to OKC on June 23rd because of the rule as an alternative example.

Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #927 on: August 10, 2023, 01:48:25 PM »

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This is an idea, not news, but how about a trade with WAS to bring back Muscala to be our back up PF?  They have 16 guaranteed contracts currently, from what I can tell, so someone is going to have to go.  We could offer a second round pick highly protected and/or well in the future, and use part of the Grant Williams TPE.  I am not sure if with waiving Champagnie, if this would put us over the second apron or not. 

I would take Gallinari ($6.8M) back also but he doesn't fit the TPE and I am not sure how else we can make that work without giving up something of real value.  I guess we could trade Pritchard ($4.0M) and Kornet ($2.4M), I think that is allowed by the rules, but that doesn't help with WAS roster excess.  Maybe we would need to add a pick to WAS for this.  Gallinari would easily replace anything we were planning on from Gallinari but we would need to find another solid bench guard to replace Pritchard.  Replacing Pritchard would probably be easier than finding that elusive back up PF we need.  Kendrick Nunn for example, I think is still a FA.  Maybe we could sign him to replace Pritchard:

Possible roster:

White            Nunn             Banton
Brown           Brogdon         OPEN
Tatum           Hauser           Waslsh
Porzingis       Gallinari          Brissett
Williams        Horford           Griffin

2-ways:  Davison, Scrubb, OPEN

We can’t trade for Muscala until next offseason.  You can’t trade for a player that you traded in the same season, and for these purposes, the season starts with the off-season and not the league year.
We already had Muscala. Our genius coach refused to use him. I doubt Muscala would want a repeat of the experience.

Derrick White was bad for the balance of the season when we traded for him at the deadline but was fine, really good actually, when he had a full preseason to acclimate to the team.  I suspect that there would be some of that with Muscala also.  I think Muscala is a better player than what he showed in the 1/3 of a season with Boston.  Not saying he is as good as White, clearly not, but I think he could give us what Grant gave us, or close to it, as the 4th big in the rotation.

It is moot though as it turns out since we can't trade for him anyway, per Celtics2021.

Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #928 on: August 10, 2023, 04:46:52 PM »

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This is an idea, not news, but how about a trade with WAS to bring back Muscala to be our back up PF?  They have 16 guaranteed contracts currently, from what I can tell, so someone is going to have to go.  We could offer a second round pick highly protected and/or well in the future, and use part of the Grant Williams TPE.  I am not sure if with waiving Champagnie, if this would put us over the second apron or not. 

I would take Gallinari ($6.8M) back also but he doesn't fit the TPE and I am not sure how else we can make that work without giving up something of real value.  I guess we could trade Pritchard ($4.0M) and Kornet ($2.4M), I think that is allowed by the rules, but that doesn't help with WAS roster excess.  Maybe we would need to add a pick to WAS for this.  Gallinari would easily replace anything we were planning on from Gallinari but we would need to find another solid bench guard to replace Pritchard.  Replacing Pritchard would probably be easier than finding that elusive back up PF we need.  Kendrick Nunn for example, I think is still a FA.  Maybe we could sign him to replace Pritchard:

Possible roster:

White            Nunn             Banton
Brown           Brogdon         OPEN
Tatum           Hauser           Waslsh
Porzingis       Gallinari          Brissett
Williams        Horford           Griffin

2-ways:  Davison, Scrubb, OPEN

We can’t trade for Muscala until next offseason.  You can’t trade for a player that you traded in the same season, and for these purposes, the season starts with the off-season and not the league year.
We already had Muscala. Our genius coach refused to use him. I doubt Muscala would want a repeat of the experience.

Derrick White was bad for the balance of the season when we traded for him at the deadline but was fine, really good actually, when he had a full preseason to acclimate to the team.  I suspect that there would be some of that with Muscala also. I think Muscala is a better player than what he showed in the 1/3 of a season with Boston.  Not saying he is as good as White, clearly not, but I think he could give us what Grant gave us, or close to it, as the 4th big in the rotation.

It is moot though as it turns out since we can't trade for him anyway, per Celtics2021.
Same would be true for Blake Griffin who missed most of (?) training camp. No trades, sign Blake.

Re: Celtics Off-Season News
« Reply #929 on: August 10, 2023, 08:01:14 PM »

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The NBA should stop sending stars to the Olympics and own its own International Tournament with FIBA partners, aka like somewhat what MLB and FIFA do.

I don't know about the NBA "owning" an international tournament, sounds like an interesting idea, but it is pretty clear that when players play in these summer international tournaments, that there is high risk of injury, serious injury.  The players need this rest.  It almost seems as though they are more susceptible to injury in the summer.  And even those that don't suffer an actual injury, their ability to sustain a long NBA season somehow seems diminished when they play in the summer.  I am not sure the answer, but I think there is something here that needs to be fixed.

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It is actually Cuban's Idea from 10 years ago, here is an article on it, he is right the NBA lends its assets to the IOC a corrupt organization to make lots of $$$$.



https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1156060-summer-olympics-2012-mark-cubans-comments-on-nba-participation-deserve-praise