Celtics Off-Season News

[celticinorlando]

Al is going to play center and PF

Can they get anything out of Brissett and Walsh that helps impact games?

[Celtics2021]

Does trading Grant really mean that the Celtics don’t want to cross that second apron? What if there’s an incoming trade for a serviceable guy that actually does make us breach the second apron? This is of course assuming that Brad has the green light to spend. Sorry if this doesn’t make sense as I don’t really understand the intricacies of our salary cap situation. Just saying maybe Brad is in the hunt for a Grant upgrade this the abundance of second round picks.

I mean, is it possible there’s someone making $6.2 million or less whom we can acquire for similar compensation to what we just received for Grant?  Sure, that’s possible, I guess.  But the more likely scenario is we’re avoiding the second apron, which I think is really short-sighted and inconsistent with having added so much payroll in trading for Porzingis while also sacrificing depth.

[hpantazo]

Just saw a clip of the first technical called in an NBA summer league game for flopping. Maybe this new rule is why Brad traded Smart

[celticinorlando]

Starting 5 is an improvement over last season.

Bench has two legit players if they can stay healthy in brogden and Rob/Al.

Everyone on the bench really can’t be considered guys that can be counted on at this point.

Seen flashes from Hauser and PP but they haven’t proven they are night in and out rotation players. Same with Brissett

[hpantazo]

Starting 5 is an improvement over last season.

Bench has two legit players if they can stay healthy in brogden and Rob/Al.

Everyone on the bench really can’t be considered guys that can be counted on at this point.

Seen flashes from Hauser and PP but they haven’t proven they are night in and out rotation players. Same with Brissett

Yeah, Brad can't possibly be done. This bench is only two deep, and both of those two are injury prone players. I hope they are not relying on legit contributions from Walsh, Brissett or Banton this season. Hauser and Pritchard are ok but limited. We know what they are at this point.

[Who]

lots of noise is that they are trying to get off Brogdan, sounds crazy to me, the word is, that he is hurt so his value is at an all-time low.

Yeah, that rumour scares me too. The loss of Brogdon could destroy our bench. We will almost certainly lose that one from a talent perspective given how much his injury problems have lowered his trade value (how we were able to get him in the 1st place).

[Who]

I think this feels worse because we lost both Muscala and Gallo in the KP trade. I’d be alot more comfortable right now if we had either one of those guys as the fourth big.

Yeah. Three of our bench PFs gone.

[Who]

Starting 5 is an improvement over last season.

Bench has two legit players if they can stay healthy in brogden and Rob/Al.

Everyone on the bench really can’t be considered guys that can be counted on at this point.

Seen flashes from Hauser and PP but they haven’t proven they are night in and out rotation players. Same with Brissett

Yeah, Brad can't possibly be done. This bench is only two deep, and both of those two are injury prone players. I hope they are not relying on legit contributions from Walsh, Brissett or Banton this season. Hauser and Pritchard are ok but limited. We know what they are at this point.

Making me think of 1987. Wedman out and Walton being hurt all the time and the bench falling apart.

[Neurotic Guy]

Starting 5 is an improvement over last season.

Bench has two legit players if they can stay healthy in brogden and Rob/Al.

Everyone on the bench really can’t be considered guys that can be counted on at this point.

Seen flashes from Hauser and PP but they haven’t proven they are night in and out rotation players. Same with Brissett

Yeah, Brad can't possibly be done. This bench is only two deep, and both of those two are injury prone players. I hope they are not relying on legit contributions from Wash, Brissett or Banton this season. Hauser and Pritchard are ok but limited. We know what they are at this point.

If Brad stands pat(ish) - no major trade - and just looks to add depth, he just needs to move PP/Hauser down to 10/11 in the rotation instead of 8/9.  This is what we're all talking about here, adding a couple of later rotation players to strengthen the bench.  Meanwhile about 26 other teams are trying to figure out how they can strengthen their top 7.  But if the master plan includes moving MB or JB, that shoe's got to drop first at this point because the dust will settle differently once that happens.   

btw -- I think Pritchard is going to be a valuable backup PG/ 8th guy on a good team.  He's talented, smart, high energy, really good shooter.  When he gets regular minutes and the confidence that comes from that, he's going to be a very nice player to have. 

[radiohead]

Does trading Grant really mean that the Celtics don’t want to cross that second apron? What if there’s an incoming trade for a serviceable guy that actually does make us breach the second apron? This is of course assuming that Brad has the green light to spend. Sorry if this doesn’t make sense as I don’t really understand the intricacies of our salary cap situation. Just saying maybe Brad is in the hunt for a Grant upgrade this the abundance of second round picks.

I mean, is it possible there’s someone making $6.2 million or less whom we can acquire for similar compensation to what we just received for Grant?  Sure, that’s possible, I guess.  But the more likely scenario is we’re avoiding the second apron, which I think is really short-sighted and inconsistent with having added so much payroll in trading for Porzingis while also sacrificing depth.

That’s the confusing part. Getting KP looks like an “all in” move, but we’ll need a serviceable bench to make this work. Unless they plan to just cruise by the regular season ala Miami and just make noise in the playoffs?

[goCeltics]

I wonder if the new flopping technical foul rule made Brad look at Marcus and Grant differently.

[gouki88]

I think this feels worse because we lost both Muscala and Gallo in the KP trade. I’d be alot more comfortable right now if we had either one of those guys as the fourth big.

I think we can easily acquire another player of that calibre with our armada of 2nds

[gouki88]

Does trading Grant really mean that the Celtics don’t want to cross that second apron? What if there’s an incoming trade for a serviceable guy that actually does make us breach the second apron? This is of course assuming that Brad has the green light to spend. Sorry if this doesn’t make sense as I don’t really understand the intricacies of our salary cap situation. Just saying maybe Brad is in the hunt for a Grant upgrade this the abundance of second round picks.

I mean, is it possible there’s someone making $6.2 million or less whom we can acquire for similar compensation to what we just received for Grant?  Sure, that’s possible, I guess.  But the more likely scenario is we’re avoiding the second apron, which I think is really short-sighted and inconsistent with having added so much payroll in trading for Porzingis while also sacrificing depth.

That’s the confusing part. Getting KP looks like an “all in” move, but we’ll need a serviceable bench to make this work. Unless they plan to just cruise by the regular season ala Miami and just make noise in the playoffs?

What defines a "serviceable" bench? We have 3 guys who will likely look at 35+MPG in the playoffs (JT, JB, KP), 2 more in the 30-35 range (White & Brogdon, 2 more in the 25-30 range (Horford & Rob Williams), and 2 more who can fill in spot 10 or so spot minutes (Hauser & PP). Is that not a fairly normal group for a playoff run? 7 core guys, 2 on the periphery?

[radiohead]

Does trading Grant really mean that the Celtics don’t want to cross that second apron? What if there’s an incoming trade for a serviceable guy that actually does make us breach the second apron? This is of course assuming that Brad has the green light to spend. Sorry if this doesn’t make sense as I don’t really understand the intricacies of our salary cap situation. Just saying maybe Brad is in the hunt for a Grant upgrade this the abundance of second round picks.

I mean, is it possible there’s someone making $6.2 million or less whom we can acquire for similar compensation to what we just received for Grant?  Sure, that’s possible, I guess.  But the more likely scenario is we’re avoiding the second apron, which I think is really short-sighted and inconsistent with having added so much payroll in trading for Porzingis while also sacrificing depth.

That’s the confusing part. Getting KP looks like an “all in” move, but we’ll need a serviceable bench to make this work. Unless they plan to just cruise by the regular season ala Miami and just make noise in the playoffs?

What defines a "serviceable" bench? We have 3 guys who will likely look at 35+MPG in the playoffs (JT, JB, KP), 2 more in the 30-35 range (White & Brogdon, 2 more in the 25-30 range (Horford & Rob Williams), and 2 more who can fill in spot 10 or so spot minutes (Hauser & PP). Is that not a fairly normal group for a playoff run? 7 core guys, 2 on the periphery?

That’s for the playoffs. I think we’ll see a lot of load management/DNPs with the likes of Rob, Al, KP, Malcolm, and even the Jays during the course of the regular season. Ideally we’d have some vets who can jump right in if need be. I’m particularly concerned wih our bigs rotation. RW/Al/KP is a solid but fragile rotation. Someone like Saric could certainly help. I was hoping we’d keep Grant for that purpose. We still have Luke but I feel we could still do better.

[trickybilly]

Does trading Grant really mean that the Celtics don’t want to cross that second apron? What if there’s an incoming trade for a serviceable guy that actually does make us breach the second apron? This is of course assuming that Brad has the green light to spend. Sorry if this doesn’t make sense as I don’t really understand the intricacies of our salary cap situation. Just saying maybe Brad is in the hunt for a Grant upgrade this the abundance of second round picks.

I mean, is it possible there’s someone making $6.2 million or less whom we can acquire for similar compensation to what we just received for Grant?  Sure, that’s possible, I guess.  But the more likely scenario is we’re avoiding the second apron, which I think is really short-sighted and inconsistent with having added so much payroll in trading for Porzingis while also sacrificing depth.

That’s the confusing part. Getting KP looks like an “all in” move, but we’ll need a serviceable bench to make this work. Unless they plan to just cruise by the regular season ala Miami and just make noise in the playoffs?

What defines a "serviceable" bench? We have 3 guys who will likely look at 35+MPG in the playoffs (JT, JB, KP), 2 more in the 30-35 range (White & Brogdon, 2 more in the 25-30 range (Horford & Rob Williams), and 2 more who can fill in spot 10 or so spot minutes (Hauser & PP). Is that not a fairly normal group for a playoff run? 7 core guys, 2 on the periphery?

That’s for the playoffs. I think we’ll see a lot of load management/DNPs with the likes of Rob, Al, KP, Malcolm, and even the Jays during the course of the regular season. Ideally we’d have some vets who can jump right in if need be. I’m particularly concerned wih our bigs rotation. RW/Al/KP is a solid but fragile rotation. Someone like Saric could certainly help. I was hoping we’d keep Grant for that purpose. We still have Luke but I feel we could still do better.

Brisset will be a valuable bench piece too. Mark words!!