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Re: How much upside does Joe have?
« Reply #90 on: April 25, 2023, 10:04:58 PM »

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Re: How much upside does Joe have?
« Reply #91 on: April 25, 2023, 10:05:13 PM »

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And another blown 4th quarter lead with no timeouts or adjustments from incompetent Joe. How anyone has any trust in this  guys whatsoever is beyond me. He literally sat there in the fourth quarter and watched us give up a 15-4 extended run with 4 TOs without making any adjustments or calling any timeouts to set up a good shot until 9 seconds left in the game and already critically behind.

So ridiculous. SO many of us were told that "this is just an early season tactic to build trust in his guys" and it wouldn't happen in the postseason. So much for that.  >:(

Smart cost the C’s the game, not Joe. Just horrible in crucial moments in the 4th. -12 for +/- worst on the team. Hard to win when the starting PG makes bad decisions in crunch time.
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Re: How much upside does Joe have?
« Reply #92 on: April 25, 2023, 10:05:33 PM »

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Re: How much upside does Joe have?
« Reply #93 on: April 25, 2023, 10:07:27 PM »

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And another blown 4th quarter lead with no timeouts or adjustments from incompetent Joe. How anyone has any trust in this  guys whatsoever is beyond me. He literally sat there in the fourth quarter and watched us give up a 15-4 extended run with 4 TOs without making any adjustments or calling any timeouts to set up a good shot until 9 seconds left in the game and already critically behind.

So ridiculous. SO many of us were told that "this is just an early season tactic to build trust in his guys" and it wouldn't happen in the postseason. So much for that.  >:(

Smart cost the C’s the game, not Joe. Just horrible in crucial moments in the 4th.

Joe, Smart, and Tatum all had primary shares in this loss. But this thread is about Joe, so he gets the focus.

You can't seriously sit there and tell me you're fine with how he ended the game sitting on his hands letting our lead evaporate. That's non-sensical, terrible coaching.
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Re: How much upside does Joe have?
« Reply #94 on: April 25, 2023, 10:08:26 PM »

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And another blown 4th quarter lead with no timeouts or adjustments from incompetent Joe. How anyone has any trust in this  guys whatsoever is beyond me. He literally sat there in the fourth quarter and watched us give up a 15-4 extended run with 4 TOs without making any adjustments or calling any timeouts to set up a good shot until 9 seconds left in the game and already critically behind.

So ridiculous. SO many of us were told that "this is just an early season tactic to build trust in his guys" and it wouldn't happen in the postseason. So much for that.  >:(

Smart cost the C’s the game, not Joe. Just horrible in crucial moments in the 4th. -12 for +/- worst on the team. Hard to win when the starting PG makes bad decisions in crunch time.

Who put smart in the game🤔
Back to wanting Joe fired.

Re: How much upside does Joe have?
« Reply #95 on: April 25, 2023, 10:09:48 PM »

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And another blown 4th quarter lead with no timeouts or adjustments from incompetent Joe. How anyone has any trust in this  guys whatsoever is beyond me. He literally sat there in the fourth quarter and watched us give up a 15-4 extended run with 4 TOs without making any adjustments or calling any timeouts to set up a good shot until 9 seconds left in the game and already critically behind.

So ridiculous. SO many of us were told that "this is just an early season tactic to build trust in his guys" and it wouldn't happen in the postseason. So much for that.  >:(

Smart cost the C’s the game, not Joe. Just horrible in crucial moments in the 4th.

Joe, Smart, and Tatum all had primary shares in this loss. But this thread is about Joe, so he gets the focus.

You can't seriously sit there and tell me you're fine with how he ended the game sitting on his hands letting our lead evaporate. That's non-sensical, terrible coaching.

So what adjustments should he have made? Timeouts don’t stop runs, the players stop the runs by playing defense. Rotation was the same as last game, minus Blake playing over Grant.  Team didn’t play well down the stretch and a lot of that was Smart. Needed one stop at the end, couldn’t do it.
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Re: How much upside does Joe have?
« Reply #96 on: April 25, 2023, 10:21:58 PM »

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And another blown 4th quarter lead with no timeouts or adjustments from incompetent Joe. How anyone has any trust in this  guys whatsoever is beyond me. He literally sat there in the fourth quarter and watched us give up a 15-4 extended run with 4 TOs without making any adjustments or calling any timeouts to set up a good shot until 9 seconds left in the game and already critically behind.

So ridiculous. SO many of us were told that "this is just an early season tactic to build trust in his guys" and it wouldn't happen in the postseason. So much for that.  >:(

Smart cost the C’s the game, not Joe. Just horrible in crucial moments in the 4th.

Joe, Smart, and Tatum all had primary shares in this loss. But this thread is about Joe, so he gets the focus.

You can't seriously sit there and tell me you're fine with how he ended the game sitting on his hands letting our lead evaporate. That's non-sensical, terrible coaching.

So what adjustments should he have made? Timeouts don’t stop runs, the players stop the runs by playing defense. Rotation was the same as last game, minus Blake playing over Grant.  Team didn’t play well down the stretch and a lot of that was Smart. Needed one stop at the end, couldn’t do it.

Well, you cited Smart.  Why is he in the game down the stretch over Brogdon and/or White?


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Re: How much upside does Joe have?
« Reply #97 on: April 25, 2023, 10:24:11 PM »

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Definitely out coached game 5
In the end it’s the new NBA there is zero urgency from the players regular season and playoffs

Remember first round was best of 5 for many years ?
Every series should be best of 5 in today’s nba, it would be better basketball

Re: How much upside does Joe have?
« Reply #98 on: April 25, 2023, 10:25:43 PM »

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And another blown 4th quarter lead with no timeouts or adjustments from incompetent Joe. How anyone has any trust in this  guys whatsoever is beyond me. He literally sat there in the fourth quarter and watched us give up a 15-4 extended run with 4 TOs without making any adjustments or calling any timeouts to set up a good shot until 9 seconds left in the game and already critically behind.

So ridiculous. SO many of us were told that "this is just an early season tactic to build trust in his guys" and it wouldn't happen in the postseason. So much for that.  >:(

Smart cost the C’s the game, not Joe. Just horrible in crucial moments in the 4th.

Joe, Smart, and Tatum all had primary shares in this loss. But this thread is about Joe, so he gets the focus.

You can't seriously sit there and tell me you're fine with how he ended the game sitting on his hands letting our lead evaporate. That's non-sensical, terrible coaching.

So what adjustments should he have made? Timeouts don’t stop runs, the players stop the runs by playing defense. Rotation was the same as last game, minus Blake playing over Grant.  Team didn’t play well down the stretch and a lot of that was Smart. Needed one stop at the end, couldn’t do it.

Well, you cited Smart.  Why is he in the game down the stretch over Brogdon and/or White?

Marcus is the starting point guard and last years DPY. He’s going to be in there at the end. Smart had a bad game. It happens.
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Re: How much upside does Joe have?
« Reply #99 on: April 25, 2023, 10:27:30 PM »

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Are we blaming a coach after what we just watched? I’ll admit I’m  skeptical of him but this is a players league and our players just choked like dogs, I don’t care if an infant child was their coach tonight, they should’ve won.

Re: How much upside does Joe have?
« Reply #100 on: April 25, 2023, 10:27:39 PM »

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And another blown 4th quarter lead with no timeouts or adjustments from incompetent Joe. How anyone has any trust in this  guys whatsoever is beyond me. He literally sat there in the fourth quarter and watched us give up a 15-4 extended run with 4 TOs without making any adjustments or calling any timeouts to set up a good shot until 9 seconds left in the game and already critically behind.

So ridiculous. SO many of us were told that "this is just an early season tactic to build trust in his guys" and it wouldn't happen in the postseason. So much for that.  >:(

Smart cost the C’s the game, not Joe. Just horrible in crucial moments in the 4th.

Joe, Smart, and Tatum all had primary shares in this loss. But this thread is about Joe, so he gets the focus.

You can't seriously sit there and tell me you're fine with how he ended the game sitting on his hands letting our lead evaporate. That's non-sensical, terrible coaching.

So what adjustments should he have made? Timeouts don’t stop runs, the players stop the runs by playing defense. Rotation was the same as last game, minus Blake playing over Grant.  Team didn’t play well down the stretch and a lot of that was Smart. Needed one stop at the end, couldn’t do it.

Well, you cited Smart.  Why is he in the game down the stretch over Brogdon and/or White?

Marcus is the starting point guard and last years DPY. He’s going to be in there at the end of the game. Smart had a bad game. It happens.

So, Joe can't sit one of his guys based on reputation, despite better players on the team?

Sounds like weakness.


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Re: How much upside does Joe have?
« Reply #101 on: April 25, 2023, 10:28:08 PM »

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And another blown 4th quarter lead with no timeouts or adjustments from incompetent Joe. How anyone has any trust in this  guys whatsoever is beyond me. He literally sat there in the fourth quarter and watched us give up a 15-4 extended run with 4 TOs without making any adjustments or calling any timeouts to set up a good shot until 9 seconds left in the game and already critically behind.

So ridiculous. SO many of us were told that "this is just an early season tactic to build trust in his guys" and it wouldn't happen in the postseason. So much for that.  >:(

Smart cost the C’s the game, not Joe. Just horrible in crucial moments in the 4th.

Joe, Smart, and Tatum all had primary shares in this loss. But this thread is about Joe, so he gets the focus.

You can't seriously sit there and tell me you're fine with how he ended the game sitting on his hands letting our lead evaporate. That's non-sensical, terrible coaching.

So what adjustments should he have made? Timeouts don’t stop runs, the players stop the runs by playing defense. Rotation was the same as last game, minus Blake playing over Grant.  Team didn’t play well down the stretch and a lot of that was Smart. Needed one stop at the end, couldn’t do it.
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Re: How much upside does Joe have?
« Reply #102 on: April 25, 2023, 10:28:43 PM »

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Re: How much upside does Joe have?
« Reply #103 on: April 25, 2023, 10:29:09 PM »

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And another blown 4th quarter lead with no timeouts or adjustments from incompetent Joe. How anyone has any trust in this  guys whatsoever is beyond me. He literally sat there in the fourth quarter and watched us give up a 15-4 extended run with 4 TOs without making any adjustments or calling any timeouts to set up a good shot until 9 seconds left in the game and already critically behind.

So ridiculous. SO many of us were told that "this is just an early season tactic to build trust in his guys" and it wouldn't happen in the postseason. So much for that.  >:(

Smart cost the C’s the game, not Joe. Just horrible in crucial moments in the 4th.

Joe, Smart, and Tatum all had primary shares in this loss. But this thread is about Joe, so he gets the focus.

You can't seriously sit there and tell me you're fine with how he ended the game sitting on his hands letting our lead evaporate. That's non-sensical, terrible coaching.

So what adjustments should he have made? Timeouts don’t stop runs, the players stop the runs by playing defense. Rotation was the same as last game, minus Blake playing over Grant.  Team didn’t play well down the stretch and a lot of that was Smart. Needed one stop at the end, couldn’t do it.

Well, you cited Smart.  Why is he in the game down the stretch over Brogdon and/or White?

There's one adjustment.

The other is the extreme drop coverage on Trae, who hit several off of the awful PnR coverage down the stretch.

And even beyond those adjustments, you can call a timeout and just run a set action to get someone a good, set look. They were turning it over time after time because they were reeling and out of sorts. That's the EXACT time you call the timeout, calm them down, set up a good look, and help your team get back on track. Joe just sat on his hands and let them lose the game, a complete dereliction of his duty as coach.

The proof is in the pudding. His "hands off" philosophy has killed us all year and cost us several wins down the stretch.
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Re: How much upside does Joe have?
« Reply #104 on: April 25, 2023, 10:33:40 PM »

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And another blown 4th quarter lead with no timeouts or adjustments from incompetent Joe. How anyone has any trust in this  guys whatsoever is beyond me. He literally sat there in the fourth quarter and watched us give up a 15-4 extended run with 4 TOs without making any adjustments or calling any timeouts to set up a good shot until 9 seconds left in the game and already critically behind.

So ridiculous. SO many of us were told that "this is just an early season tactic to build trust in his guys" and it wouldn't happen in the postseason. So much for that.  >:(

Smart cost the C’s the game, not Joe. Just horrible in crucial moments in the 4th.

Joe, Smart, and Tatum all had primary shares in this loss. But this thread is about Joe, so he gets the focus.

You can't seriously sit there and tell me you're fine with how he ended the game sitting on his hands letting our lead evaporate. That's non-sensical, terrible coaching.

So what adjustments should he have made? Timeouts don’t stop runs, the players stop the runs by playing defense. Rotation was the same as last game, minus Blake playing over Grant.  Team didn’t play well down the stretch and a lot of that was Smart. Needed one stop at the end, couldn’t do it.

Well, you cited Smart.  Why is he in the game down the stretch over Brogdon and/or White?

Marcus is the starting point guard and last years DPY. He’s going to be in there at the end of the game. Smart had a bad game. It happens.

So, Joe can't sit one of his guys based on reputation, despite better players on the team?

Sounds like weakness.

Smart lost the game for the C’s tonight, but he’s won plenty of other games for Boston with clutch plays. The coach has to trust that his players will perform and make the right plays more often than not in a 7 game series. Can’t be changing things up game to game. That’s how you lose a locker room.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2023, 10:39:21 PM by Goldstar88 »
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.