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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #3750 on: May 16, 2023, 11:39:23 AM »

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I can't remember an off season when there were 2 legit contenders with open head coaching jobs, let alone 3.  Amazing what an "early" playoff exit will do.

With every contender job that opens up, have to wonder if Udoka is regretting his decision to go to the Rockets.  At the time he was probably happy to be back as a head coach, but if he waited a few weeks he might have had his pick of the litter (of course who could foresee it at the time).  And he was an assistant with both KD and Embiid, so maybe they'd both push for their teams to sign him.

Houston might end up being a great place for him (especially if they win the lottery tonight), but I think every coach would rather jump to a contender than a rebuilding team.

Phoenix, Milwaukee, Philly, those are some enticing gigs.

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« Reply #3751 on: May 16, 2023, 11:40:53 AM »

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I'm not sure why any team would have interest in Doc tbh. He'll 100% find a gig, but I just don't understand it. Forget all the chokes, this guy has no problem outing the players to the media and when things fall apart with a team, he blames everyone but himself. Said the Clippers choked because they were "uncooperative" and "not like a team" which Reddick (who was on LAC) just recently on Twitter clowned him for it. Then you have his antics with saying they "analytically won Game 6 by 20" and crying about the refs. I know other coaches sometimes do it, but Doc has a long history of it.

He's underachieved a ton with the teams he's been with (including Boston). If a team like Phoenix wants to get over the hump, idk how Doc does that for them lol.

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« Reply #3752 on: May 16, 2023, 11:45:21 AM »

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I'm not sure why any team would have interest in Doc tbh. He'll 100% find a gig, but I just don't understand it. Forget all the chokes, this guy has no problem outing the players to the media and when things fall apart with a team, he blames everyone but himself. Said the Clippers choked because they were "uncooperative" and "not like a team" which Reddick (who was on LAC) just recently on Twitter clowned him for it. Then you have his antics with saying they "analytically won Game 6 by 20" and crying about the refs. I know other coaches sometimes do it, but Doc has a long history of it.

He's underachieved a ton with the teams he's been with (including Boston). If a team like Phoenix wants to get over the hump, idk how Doc does that for them lol.

I bet the Bucks hire him. He'd do well with their vet group.

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« Reply #3753 on: May 16, 2023, 11:51:26 AM »

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This situation could present itself as a major dilemma for the Lakers, though, according to NBA insider Shams Charania, Simply put, LA might not be able to match whatever offer Reaves is able to receive in free agency in the offseason: “The most the Lakers can offer outright is four years, a bit over $50 million,” Shams said. “… But then, if you’re Austin Reaves, what can you get out in the marketplace? I think more and more teams around the league, teams with cap space, teams like Houston (and) San Antonio, you have to look at a guy like that because he’s not old. He’s not super young either. He’s kind of that middle-of-the-pack age range guy that is still young enough career-wise that can come in, fit among your group, be a veteran leader to an extent, but still grow and develop with your group. I think there is a concern for sure if you’re the Lakers that he’s gonna get potentially an offer sheet way, way, way higher than 50.”

Reaves is the restricted agent that I could see leaving teams this summer.  I don't think that Grant will be a big offer, but you've got to imagine that Reaves will get, bare minimum, Evan Fournier money, right?

Man, I really wanted to grab Reeves when he went undrafted. Bummer the Lakers got him.

That said, I don’t think he even plays on the Celtics.  I’m not convinced he’s significantly better than Pritchard.

He's like a 6'5" Pritchard.

Reaves is WAAAAAAY better than Pricthard.

Reaves shoots 60+% from 2 point range, as opposed to under 50% from Pritchard. He's way better at scoring at just about every spot inside than ARC than Pricthard, still a good three point shooter (tho on lower volume) and gets to the line alot, vs almost never for Pritchard. All of taht makes him a massively more efficient scorer than Pricthard.

Also, he's bigger. Which matters defensively.

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« Reply #3754 on: May 16, 2023, 12:00:54 PM »

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This situation could present itself as a major dilemma for the Lakers, though, according to NBA insider Shams Charania, Simply put, LA might not be able to match whatever offer Reaves is able to receive in free agency in the offseason: “The most the Lakers can offer outright is four years, a bit over $50 million,” Shams said. “… But then, if you’re Austin Reaves, what can you get out in the marketplace? I think more and more teams around the league, teams with cap space, teams like Houston (and) San Antonio, you have to look at a guy like that because he’s not old. He’s not super young either. He’s kind of that middle-of-the-pack age range guy that is still young enough career-wise that can come in, fit among your group, be a veteran leader to an extent, but still grow and develop with your group. I think there is a concern for sure if you’re the Lakers that he’s gonna get potentially an offer sheet way, way, way higher than 50.”

Reaves is the restricted agent that I could see leaving teams this summer.  I don't think that Grant will be a big offer, but you've got to imagine that Reaves will get, bare minimum, Evan Fournier money, right?

Man, I really wanted to grab Reeves when he went undrafted. Bummer the Lakers got him.

That said, I don’t think he even plays on the Celtics.  I’m not convinced he’s significantly better than Pritchard.

He's like a 6'5" Pritchard.

Reaves is WAAAAAAY better than Pricthard.

Reaves shoots 60+% from 2 point range, as opposed to under 50% from Pritchard. He's way better at scoring at just about every spot inside than ARC than Pricthard, still a good three point shooter (tho on lower volume) and gets to the line alot, vs almost never for Pritchard. All of taht makes him a massively more efficient scorer than Pricthard.

Also, he's bigger. Which matters defensively.

Yeah...  I'm not seeing the Pritchard comparison.  They're both white, I guess, and 24 years old.  Reaves is quantitatively better, though.

Wake me up when Pritchard puts up 15 / 5 / 4 in the playoffs with good defense.


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« Reply #3755 on: May 16, 2023, 12:26:34 PM »

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This situation could present itself as a major dilemma for the Lakers, though, according to NBA insider Shams Charania, Simply put, LA might not be able to match whatever offer Reaves is able to receive in free agency in the offseason: “The most the Lakers can offer outright is four years, a bit over $50 million,” Shams said. “… But then, if you’re Austin Reaves, what can you get out in the marketplace? I think more and more teams around the league, teams with cap space, teams like Houston (and) San Antonio, you have to look at a guy like that because he’s not old. He’s not super young either. He’s kind of that middle-of-the-pack age range guy that is still young enough career-wise that can come in, fit among your group, be a veteran leader to an extent, but still grow and develop with your group. I think there is a concern for sure if you’re the Lakers that he’s gonna get potentially an offer sheet way, way, way higher than 50.”

Reaves is the restricted agent that I could see leaving teams this summer.  I don't think that Grant will be a big offer, but you've got to imagine that Reaves will get, bare minimum, Evan Fournier money, right?

Man, I really wanted to grab Reeves when he went undrafted. Bummer the Lakers got him.

That said, I don’t think he even plays on the Celtics.  I’m not convinced he’s significantly better than Pritchard.

He's like a 6'5" Pritchard.

Reaves is WAAAAAAY better than Pricthard.

Reaves shoots 60+% from 2 point range, as opposed to under 50% from Pritchard. He's way better at scoring at just about every spot inside than ARC than Pricthard, still a good three point shooter (tho on lower volume) and gets to the line alot, vs almost never for Pritchard. All of taht makes him a massively more efficient scorer than Pricthard.

Also, he's bigger. Which matters defensively.

Yeah...  I'm not seeing the Pritchard comparison.  They're both white, I guess, and 24 years old.  Reaves is quantitatively better, though.

Wake me up when Pritchard puts up 15 / 5 / 4 in the playoffs with good defense.

Ya besides both being white they aren't really similar in how they play, or how good they are. Pritchard is by some advanced stats a pretty awful player, whereas Reaves is an unambiguous positive starter level guy. He's ARGUABLY been the Lakers third best player.

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« Reply #3756 on: May 16, 2023, 12:43:00 PM »

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Mark Jackson just got outed as the sole MVP voter who didn't have Jokic in the top 5 on his ballot.

You wonder how many other voters are this naive or stupid.

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Jackson further explained what happened on "NBA Today" on SiriusXM ... saying he actually thought he was voting for All-NBA teams. Had he known, he claims he would have included Jokic third on his list ... behind Embiid and Giannis.

Jackson said he completely understands if the mix-up results in losing the privilege ... adding, "If you want to take away my vote or whatever, you're more than welcome."

LOL. Wait, wait, wait ... so even if he's telling the truth here, this means he wasn't going to put Jokic on his first-team All-NBA. That's preposterous. How can he say that Jokic isn't one of the five best players right now?

All NBA is voted for by position, so if he thought Embiid was the MVP, it would seem logical that he would also vote Embiid first team All NBA.  Starting next season, voting will be changed for the All NBA teams, for the 5 best players, regardless of position.

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« Reply #3757 on: May 16, 2023, 12:45:25 PM »

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This situation could present itself as a major dilemma for the Lakers, though, according to NBA insider Shams Charania, Simply put, LA might not be able to match whatever offer Reaves is able to receive in free agency in the offseason: “The most the Lakers can offer outright is four years, a bit over $50 million,” Shams said. “… But then, if you’re Austin Reaves, what can you get out in the marketplace? I think more and more teams around the league, teams with cap space, teams like Houston (and) San Antonio, you have to look at a guy like that because he’s not old. He’s not super young either. He’s kind of that middle-of-the-pack age range guy that is still young enough career-wise that can come in, fit among your group, be a veteran leader to an extent, but still grow and develop with your group. I think there is a concern for sure if you’re the Lakers that he’s gonna get potentially an offer sheet way, way, way higher than 50.”

Reaves is the restricted agent that I could see leaving teams this summer.  I don't think that Grant will be a big offer, but you've got to imagine that Reaves will get, bare minimum, Evan Fournier money, right?

Man, I really wanted to grab Reeves when he went undrafted. Bummer the Lakers got him.

That said, I don’t think he even plays on the Celtics.  I’m not convinced he’s significantly better than Pritchard.

He's like a 6'5" Pritchard.

Reaves is WAAAAAAY better than Pricthard.

Reaves shoots 60+% from 2 point range, as opposed to under 50% from Pritchard. He's way better at scoring at just about every spot inside than ARC than Pricthard, still a good three point shooter (tho on lower volume) and gets to the line alot, vs almost never for Pritchard. All of taht makes him a massively more efficient scorer than Pricthard.

Also, he's bigger. Which matters defensively.

Yeah...  I'm not seeing the Pritchard comparison.  They're both white, I guess, and 24 years old.  Reaves is quantitatively better, though.

Wake me up when Pritchard puts up 15 / 5 / 4 in the playoffs with good defense.

It wasn’t a Pritchard comparison, exactly.  It was that he wouldn’t get any playing time on the Celtics, like Pritchard, as liam was bemoaning a binkie not acquired.  I stand by that — Reaves wouldn’t play here, and Pritchard could play elsewhere.  I think we’ll see that next season, and if given the opportunity, the overall impact would be similar, even if they are not identical players.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #3758 on: May 16, 2023, 01:51:30 PM »

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This situation could present itself as a major dilemma for the Lakers, though, according to NBA insider Shams Charania, Simply put, LA might not be able to match whatever offer Reaves is able to receive in free agency in the offseason: “The most the Lakers can offer outright is four years, a bit over $50 million,” Shams said. “… But then, if you’re Austin Reaves, what can you get out in the marketplace? I think more and more teams around the league, teams with cap space, teams like Houston (and) San Antonio, you have to look at a guy like that because he’s not old. He’s not super young either. He’s kind of that middle-of-the-pack age range guy that is still young enough career-wise that can come in, fit among your group, be a veteran leader to an extent, but still grow and develop with your group. I think there is a concern for sure if you’re the Lakers that he’s gonna get potentially an offer sheet way, way, way higher than 50.”

Reaves is the restricted agent that I could see leaving teams this summer.  I don't think that Grant will be a big offer, but you've got to imagine that Reaves will get, bare minimum, Evan Fournier money, right?

Man, I really wanted to grab Reeves when he went undrafted. Bummer the Lakers got him.

That said, I don’t think he even plays on the Celtics.  I’m not convinced he’s significantly better than Pritchard.

He's like a 6'5" Pritchard.

Reaves is WAAAAAAY better than Pricthard.

Reaves shoots 60+% from 2 point range, as opposed to under 50% from Pritchard. He's way better at scoring at just about every spot inside than ARC than Pricthard, still a good three point shooter (tho on lower volume) and gets to the line alot, vs almost never for Pritchard. All of taht makes him a massively more efficient scorer than Pricthard.

Also, he's bigger. Which matters defensively.

Yeah...  I'm not seeing the Pritchard comparison.  They're both white, I guess, and 24 years old.  Reaves is quantitatively better, though.

Wake me up when Pritchard puts up 15 / 5 / 4 in the playoffs with good defense.

Ya besides both being white they aren't really similar in how they play, or how good they are. Pritchard is by some advanced stats a pretty awful player, whereas Reaves is an unambiguous positive starter level guy. He's ARGUABLY been the Lakers third best player.

Both lead ball handlers, both good passers, and both play tough... They aren't the same but similar. I think Pritchard will find a role somewhere. Reaves plays because LeBron likes playing with high IQ guys. Pritchard and Reaves are both high IQ guys. I liked Reaves coming out and have kept an eye on him. I liked him for our team and think he would've been a good fit. I'm offended by the "Both are white" comment. That implies that I am somehow racist. It's also just lazy.

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« Reply #3759 on: May 16, 2023, 02:05:23 PM »

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This situation could present itself as a major dilemma for the Lakers, though, according to NBA insider Shams Charania, Simply put, LA might not be able to match whatever offer Reaves is able to receive in free agency in the offseason: “The most the Lakers can offer outright is four years, a bit over $50 million,” Shams said. “… But then, if you’re Austin Reaves, what can you get out in the marketplace? I think more and more teams around the league, teams with cap space, teams like Houston (and) San Antonio, you have to look at a guy like that because he’s not old. He’s not super young either. He’s kind of that middle-of-the-pack age range guy that is still young enough career-wise that can come in, fit among your group, be a veteran leader to an extent, but still grow and develop with your group. I think there is a concern for sure if you’re the Lakers that he’s gonna get potentially an offer sheet way, way, way higher than 50.”

Reaves is the restricted agent that I could see leaving teams this summer.  I don't think that Grant will be a big offer, but you've got to imagine that Reaves will get, bare minimum, Evan Fournier money, right?

Man, I really wanted to grab Reeves when he went undrafted. Bummer the Lakers got him.

That said, I don’t think he even plays on the Celtics.  I’m not convinced he’s significantly better than Pritchard.

He's like a 6'5" Pritchard.

Reaves is WAAAAAAY better than Pricthard.

Reaves shoots 60+% from 2 point range, as opposed to under 50% from Pritchard. He's way better at scoring at just about every spot inside than ARC than Pricthard, still a good three point shooter (tho on lower volume) and gets to the line alot, vs almost never for Pritchard. All of taht makes him a massively more efficient scorer than Pricthard.

Also, he's bigger. Which matters defensively.

Yeah...  I'm not seeing the Pritchard comparison.  They're both white, I guess, and 24 years old.  Reaves is quantitatively better, though.

Wake me up when Pritchard puts up 15 / 5 / 4 in the playoffs with good defense.

Ya besides both being white they aren't really similar in how they play, or how good they are. Pritchard is by some advanced stats a pretty awful player, whereas Reaves is an unambiguous positive starter level guy. He's ARGUABLY been the Lakers third best player.

Both lead ball handlers, both good passers, and both play tough... They aren't the same but similar. I think Pritchard will find a role somewhere. Reaves plays because LeBron likes playing with high IQ guys. Pritchard and Reaves are both high IQ guys. I liked Reaves coming out and have kept an eye on him. I liked him for our team and think he would've been a good fit. I'm offended by the "Both are white" comment. That implies that I am somehow racist. It's also just lazy.

I don't see them as similar, as one can consistently produce on a deep playoff team and the other can't.  And that's with giving Pritchard the benefit of the doubt that this year's drop in efficiency was an aberration.  Things are going wrong for an NBA team if Pritchard is acting as their lead ball-handler.

Sorry you took offense.


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #3760 on: May 16, 2023, 02:11:08 PM »

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Is Hachimura any better than Jeff Green?
What does he do that Jeff Green doesn't do?

They look pretty much the same player to me.

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« Reply #3761 on: May 16, 2023, 02:14:14 PM »

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Reaves is an unambiguous positive starter level guy. He's ARGUABLY been the Lakers third best player.
Clearly & far and away LAL's 3rd best player. Dude is going to get $20-25mil a year this summer.

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« Reply #3762 on: May 16, 2023, 02:22:13 PM »

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This situation could present itself as a major dilemma for the Lakers, though, according to NBA insider Shams Charania, Simply put, LA might not be able to match whatever offer Reaves is able to receive in free agency in the offseason: “The most the Lakers can offer outright is four years, a bit over $50 million,” Shams said. “… But then, if you’re Austin Reaves, what can you get out in the marketplace? I think more and more teams around the league, teams with cap space, teams like Houston (and) San Antonio, you have to look at a guy like that because he’s not old. He’s not super young either. He’s kind of that middle-of-the-pack age range guy that is still young enough career-wise that can come in, fit among your group, be a veteran leader to an extent, but still grow and develop with your group. I think there is a concern for sure if you’re the Lakers that he’s gonna get potentially an offer sheet way, way, way higher than 50.”

Reaves is the restricted agent that I could see leaving teams this summer.  I don't think that Grant will be a big offer, but you've got to imagine that Reaves will get, bare minimum, Evan Fournier money, right?

Man, I really wanted to grab Reeves when he went undrafted. Bummer the Lakers got him.

That said, I don’t think he even plays on the Celtics.  I’m not convinced he’s significantly better than Pritchard.

He's like a 6'5" Pritchard.

Reaves is WAAAAAAY better than Pricthard.

Reaves shoots 60+% from 2 point range, as opposed to under 50% from Pritchard. He's way better at scoring at just about every spot inside than ARC than Pricthard, still a good three point shooter (tho on lower volume) and gets to the line alot, vs almost never for Pritchard. All of taht makes him a massively more efficient scorer than Pricthard.

Also, he's bigger. Which matters defensively.

Yeah...  I'm not seeing the Pritchard comparison.  They're both white, I guess, and 24 years old.  Reaves is quantitatively better, though.

Wake me up when Pritchard puts up 15 / 5 / 4 in the playoffs with good defense.

It wasn’t a Pritchard comparison, exactly.  It was that he wouldn’t get any playing time on the Celtics, like Pritchard, as liam was bemoaning a binkie not acquired.  I stand by that — Reaves wouldn’t play here, and Pritchard could play elsewhere.  I think we’ll see that next season, and if given the opportunity, the overall impact would be similar, even if they are not identical players.

I took the comment to mean Pritchard would be as good as A Reaves if Pritchard were 6 foot 5. Similar to comments by Chuck Daly (?) that said if Isiah Thomas were 6-6, he'd be the best player in the league. That the difference between Isiah and MJ was MJ was taller and that allowed him to be the more dominant basketball player. If their heights were switched, MJ 6-1 and Isiah 6-6, the results would be Isiah as the best player in the NBA.

But that Pritchard at 6-1 is equal to Reaves at 6-5 ... No.

A Reaves is a certifiable starter. He is a plus ball-handler & passer. He is a plus shooter. He can drive. He rebounds. He defends. He is a well rounded SG with size and skill.

Pritchard is a small PG who can shoot but is deficient in ball-handling & passing (important skills to be lacking in a PG) and does not impact the game much on D despite his best efforts due to his lack of size. Pritchard is a serviceable backup PG.

A Reaves would play on any team in the league. He'd be one of our top bench players here (backup SG/SF) if not our starting SG in our small ball lineup (replacing D White).

Pritchard has a place in this league as a low end backup PG on a minimum or near minimum contract. A Reaves is a starting caliber SG who will probably earn $20-25mil a year on his next deal.

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« Reply #3763 on: May 16, 2023, 02:27:02 PM »

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This situation could present itself as a major dilemma for the Lakers, though, according to NBA insider Shams Charania, Simply put, LA might not be able to match whatever offer Reaves is able to receive in free agency in the offseason: “The most the Lakers can offer outright is four years, a bit over $50 million,” Shams said. “… But then, if you’re Austin Reaves, what can you get out in the marketplace? I think more and more teams around the league, teams with cap space, teams like Houston (and) San Antonio, you have to look at a guy like that because he’s not old. He’s not super young either. He’s kind of that middle-of-the-pack age range guy that is still young enough career-wise that can come in, fit among your group, be a veteran leader to an extent, but still grow and develop with your group. I think there is a concern for sure if you’re the Lakers that he’s gonna get potentially an offer sheet way, way, way higher than 50.”

Reaves is the restricted agent that I could see leaving teams this summer.  I don't think that Grant will be a big offer, but you've got to imagine that Reaves will get, bare minimum, Evan Fournier money, right?

Danny Ainge and Utah were linked pretty strongly to A Reaves a few weeks ago with a big money offer. He'd be a nice fit down there alongside Markkanen. Good system for him. Good opportunity.

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« Reply #3764 on: May 16, 2023, 05:09:16 PM »

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This situation could present itself as a major dilemma for the Lakers, though, according to NBA insider Shams Charania, Simply put, LA might not be able to match whatever offer Reaves is able to receive in free agency in the offseason: “The most the Lakers can offer outright is four years, a bit over $50 million,” Shams said. “… But then, if you’re Austin Reaves, what can you get out in the marketplace? I think more and more teams around the league, teams with cap space, teams like Houston (and) San Antonio, you have to look at a guy like that because he’s not old. He’s not super young either. He’s kind of that middle-of-the-pack age range guy that is still young enough career-wise that can come in, fit among your group, be a veteran leader to an extent, but still grow and develop with your group. I think there is a concern for sure if you’re the Lakers that he’s gonna get potentially an offer sheet way, way, way higher than 50.”

Reaves is the restricted agent that I could see leaving teams this summer.  I don't think that Grant will be a big offer, but you've got to imagine that Reaves will get, bare minimum, Evan Fournier money, right?

Man, I really wanted to grab Reeves when he went undrafted. Bummer the Lakers got him.

That said, I don’t think he even plays on the Celtics.  I’m not convinced he’s significantly better than Pritchard.

He's like a 6'5" Pritchard.

Reaves is WAAAAAAY better than Pricthard.

Reaves shoots 60+% from 2 point range, as opposed to under 50% from Pritchard. He's way better at scoring at just about every spot inside than ARC than Pricthard, still a good three point shooter (tho on lower volume) and gets to the line alot, vs almost never for Pritchard. All of taht makes him a massively more efficient scorer than Pricthard.

Also, he's bigger. Which matters defensively.

Yeah...  I'm not seeing the Pritchard comparison.  They're both white, I guess, and 24 years old.  Reaves is quantitatively better, though.

Wake me up when Pritchard puts up 15 / 5 / 4 in the playoffs with good defense.

It wasn’t a Pritchard comparison, exactly.  It was that he wouldn’t get any playing time on the Celtics, like Pritchard, as liam was bemoaning a binkie not acquired.  I stand by that — Reaves wouldn’t play here, and Pritchard could play elsewhere.  I think we’ll see that next season, and if given the opportunity, the overall impact would be similar, even if they are not identical players.
Agree completely. The hype over a guy who is a post-peak JR Smith level player is astonishing, especially given he's 2 months younger than Tatum. I think Pritchard will absolutely be able to be a similar 10-13PPG a night guy with 3 or so rebounds and assists.

Reaves is the better offensive player inside the arc, but Pritchard is the better shooter and passer.
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SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)