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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #3780 on: May 17, 2023, 02:15:39 AM »

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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #3781 on: May 17, 2023, 02:19:50 AM »

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Sheed ripping Doc, says he never made adjustments as a coach, the players on that Celtics team made the adjustments themselves:

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2023/05/former-celtics-player-rips-doc-rivers-coaching-style-from-time-in-boston.html

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Yeah. And we had that game too, in Game 7. If only Perk didn't go down or if the refs didn't give the Lakers a 21-4 free throw advantage in the 4th quarter.


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #3782 on: May 17, 2023, 06:19:52 AM »

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I really hope he gets it.  :laugh:

The Bucks are expected to interview Mark Jackson for their vacant head coach position, The Athletic’s Shams Charania reports.
Oh my goodness that would be good. If they hired Jackson instead of Nurse or Williams, that would be brilliant (and mad!!)

Fingers crossed. Poor Giannis though.
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« Reply #3783 on: May 17, 2023, 07:06:24 AM »

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I really hope he gets it.  :laugh:

The Bucks are expected to interview Mark Jackson for their vacant head coach position, The Athletic’s Shams Charania reports.
Oh my goodness that would be good. If they hired Jackson instead of Nurse or Williams, that would be brilliant (and mad!!)

Fingers crossed. Poor Giannis though.
Yeah, it would be a brutal waste of that big 3. Good for us, bad for basketball
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #3784 on: May 17, 2023, 09:40:09 AM »

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This situation could present itself as a major dilemma for the Lakers, though, according to NBA insider Shams Charania, Simply put, LA might not be able to match whatever offer Reaves is able to receive in free agency in the offseason: “The most the Lakers can offer outright is four years, a bit over $50 million,” Shams said. “… But then, if you’re Austin Reaves, what can you get out in the marketplace? I think more and more teams around the league, teams with cap space, teams like Houston (and) San Antonio, you have to look at a guy like that because he’s not old. He’s not super young either. He’s kind of that middle-of-the-pack age range guy that is still young enough career-wise that can come in, fit among your group, be a veteran leader to an extent, but still grow and develop with your group. I think there is a concern for sure if you’re the Lakers that he’s gonna get potentially an offer sheet way, way, way higher than 50.”

Reaves is the restricted agent that I could see leaving teams this summer.  I don't think that Grant will be a big offer, but you've got to imagine that Reaves will get, bare minimum, Evan Fournier money, right?

Man, I really wanted to grab Reeves when he went undrafted. Bummer the Lakers got him.

That said, I don’t think he even plays on the Celtics.  I’m not convinced he’s significantly better than Pritchard.

He's like a 6'5" Pritchard.

Reaves is WAAAAAAY better than Pricthard.

Reaves shoots 60+% from 2 point range, as opposed to under 50% from Pritchard. He's way better at scoring at just about every spot inside than ARC than Pricthard, still a good three point shooter (tho on lower volume) and gets to the line alot, vs almost never for Pritchard. All of taht makes him a massively more efficient scorer than Pricthard.

Also, he's bigger. Which matters defensively.

Yeah...  I'm not seeing the Pritchard comparison.  They're both white, I guess, and 24 years old.  Reaves is quantitatively better, though.

Wake me up when Pritchard puts up 15 / 5 / 4 in the playoffs with good defense.

It wasn’t a Pritchard comparison, exactly.  It was that he wouldn’t get any playing time on the Celtics, like Pritchard, as liam was bemoaning a binkie not acquired.  I stand by that — Reaves wouldn’t play here, and Pritchard could play elsewhere.  I think we’ll see that next season, and if given the opportunity, the overall impact would be similar, even if they are not identical players.

I took the comment to mean Pritchard would be as good as A Reaves if Pritchard were 6 foot 5. Similar to comments by Chuck Daly (?) that said if Isiah Thomas were 6-6, he'd be the best player in the league. That the difference between Isiah and MJ was MJ was taller and that allowed him to be the more dominant basketball player. If their heights were switched, MJ 6-1 and Isiah 6-6, the results would be Isiah as the best player in the NBA.

But that Pritchard at 6-1 is equal to Reaves at 6-5 ... No.

A Reaves is a certifiable starter. He is a plus ball-handler & passer. He is a plus shooter. He can drive. He rebounds. He defends. He is a well rounded SG with size and skill.

Pritchard is a small PG who can shoot but is deficient in ball-handling & passing (important skills to be lacking in a PG) and does not impact the game much on D despite his best efforts due to his lack of size. Pritchard is a serviceable backup PG.

A Reaves would play on any team in the league. He'd be one of our top bench players here (backup SG/SF) if not our starting SG in our small ball lineup (replacing D White).

Pritchard has a place in this league as a low end backup PG on a minimum or near minimum contract. A Reaves is a starting caliber SG who will probably earn $20-25mil a year on his next deal.
Reaves would absolutely not start over White, come off it. White is a much, much better defender and a significantly better passer, with similar shooting ability. Reaves would be the 4th guard in our rotation (by a significant margin)

I like Reaves but he'd be our 5th guard after Brown, Brogdon, White, and Smart.
Sorry, had been classifying Brown as a wing. If Brown is a guard, then yeah - Reaves would be 5th.

Reaves would probably be our primary backup SF.  His size isn't ideal, but he's essentially playing SF in LA, next to Russell and Schroder.


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #3785 on: May 17, 2023, 09:45:23 AM »

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Sheed ripping Doc, says he never made adjustments as a coach, the players on that Celtics team made the adjustments themselves:

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2023/05/former-celtics-player-rips-doc-rivers-coaching-style-from-time-in-boston.html

Doc had some strengths.  He was good at ATOs, and he generally kept the players motivated and focused.  He was good at managing personalities.

And, Rasheed Wallace is the last guy who should be calling anybody out, the way he showed up out of shape and sleep-walked through the season.

But yeah...  Doc was never my favorite coach as a game manager.  I also think he let the defense become too Rondo-centric over time.


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #3786 on: May 17, 2023, 10:56:57 AM »

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I really hope he gets it.  :laugh:

The Bucks are expected to interview Mark Jackson for their vacant head coach position, The Athletic’s Shams Charania reports.
Oh my goodness that would be good. If they hired Jackson instead of Nurse or Williams, that would be brilliant (and mad!!)

Fingers crossed. Poor Giannis though.
Yeah, it would be a brutal waste of that big 3. Good for us, bad for basketball
is it? I can't say Jackson is a worse coach than Nurse or Williams. 
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #3787 on: May 17, 2023, 11:03:43 AM »

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I really hope he gets it.  :laugh:

The Bucks are expected to interview Mark Jackson for their vacant head coach position, The Athletic’s Shams Charania reports.
Oh my goodness that would be good. If they hired Jackson instead of Nurse or Williams, that would be brilliant (and mad!!)

Fingers crossed. Poor Giannis though.
Yeah, it would be a brutal waste of that big 3. Good for us, bad for basketball
is it? I can't say Jackson is a worse coach than Nurse or Williams.

Thos coaches have been to the finals and one won it all. What has Jackson done? At least it would get him off of TV.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #3788 on: May 17, 2023, 11:51:40 AM »

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I really hope he gets it.  :laugh:

The Bucks are expected to interview Mark Jackson for their vacant head coach position, The Athletic’s Shams Charania reports.
Oh my goodness that would be good. If they hired Jackson instead of Nurse or Williams, that would be brilliant (and mad!!)

Fingers crossed. Poor Giannis though.
Yeah, it would be a brutal waste of that big 3. Good for us, bad for basketball
is it? I can't say Jackson is a worse coach than Nurse or Williams.

Thos coaches have been to the finals and one won it all. What has Jackson done? At least it would get him off of TV.

Yeah.  Jackson was replaced in Golden State and they immediately became a dynasty.  That's a clear sign of failure to me.


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« Reply #3789 on: May 17, 2023, 11:52:59 AM »

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The general managers also discussed the possibility of turning the NBA draft into a two-day event, sources said. – via Zach Lowe @ ESPN

Seems like a really bad idea.  The second round is already boring enough.


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« Reply #3790 on: May 17, 2023, 12:19:45 PM »

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The general managers also discussed the possibility of turning the NBA draft into a two-day event, sources said. – via Zach Lowe @ ESPN

Seems like a really bad idea.  The second round is already boring enough.

Absolutely.  Stretching a two round draft into two days is needless.


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #3791 on: May 17, 2023, 12:30:23 PM »

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I really hope he gets it.  :laugh:

The Bucks are expected to interview Mark Jackson for their vacant head coach position, The Athletic’s Shams Charania reports.
Oh my goodness that would be good. If they hired Jackson instead of Nurse or Williams, that would be brilliant (and mad!!)

Fingers crossed. Poor Giannis though.
Yeah, it would be a brutal waste of that big 3. Good for us, bad for basketball

It's a MASSIVE win for the viewers if Jackson is hired though  :)
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« Reply #3792 on: May 17, 2023, 12:51:02 PM »

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I really hope he gets it.  :laugh:

The Bucks are expected to interview Mark Jackson for their vacant head coach position, The Athletic’s Shams Charania reports.
Oh my goodness that would be good. If they hired Jackson instead of Nurse or Williams, that would be brilliant (and mad!!)

Fingers crossed. Poor Giannis though.
Yeah, it would be a brutal waste of that big 3. Good for us, bad for basketball
is it? I can't say Jackson is a worse coach than Nurse or Williams.

Mark jackson has .526 winning percentage and no significant playoff success. Nick nurse has .582 winning percentage and a championship. Monty is a bit more debatable.

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« Reply #3793 on: May 17, 2023, 01:00:32 PM »

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I really hope he gets it.  :laugh:

The Bucks are expected to interview Mark Jackson for their vacant head coach position, The Athletic’s Shams Charania reports.
Oh my goodness that would be good. If they hired Jackson instead of Nurse or Williams, that would be brilliant (and mad!!)

Fingers crossed. Poor Giannis though.
Yeah, it would be a brutal waste of that big 3. Good for us, bad for basketball

It's a MASSIVE win for the viewers if Jackson is hired though  :)

My contrarian take.  I really like Mark Jackson as a broadcaster when teamed with Van Gundy.

I don't really notice Jackson good or bad when it's just Jackson/Breen (making him okay in my book), but when it's Van Gundy/Jackson/Breen, I definitely notice in a good way, easily my favorite national crew.

I think Jackson/Van Gundy have great banter/chemistry, and often disagree on air, not afraid to call each other out, which you don't normally get from broadcast teams, and makes their broadcasts fun and enjoyable.

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« Reply #3794 on: May 17, 2023, 01:21:04 PM »

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I really hope he gets it.  :laugh:

The Bucks are expected to interview Mark Jackson for their vacant head coach position, The Athletic’s Shams Charania reports.
Oh my goodness that would be good. If they hired Jackson instead of Nurse or Williams, that would be brilliant (and mad!!)

Fingers crossed. Poor Giannis though.
Yeah, it would be a brutal waste of that big 3. Good for us, bad for basketball
is it? I can't say Jackson is a worse coach than Nurse or Williams.

Mark jackson has .526 winning percentage and no significant playoff success. Nick nurse has .582 winning percentage and a championship. Monty is a bit more debatable.

I haven't heard many good things about Jackson as a person/coach, but I wouldn't use winning percentage to be the main judge of him because he had only 3 seasons under his belt, taking over a rebuilding Warriors team (who traded Ellis and only had a young Steph for 26 games) who hadn't made the playoffs in 4previous 4 years, and only made it once in 18 years.

It's very similar to Brad Stevens first 3 seasons (.459 winning %, no playoff success).  I wouldn't say Brad was a bad coach after his first 3 seasons.

I'm not saying Jackson is a good coach, but I just wouldn't use a 3 season record when he started with a rebuilding team to judge him.

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