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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1830 on: February 16, 2023, 10:13:02 AM »

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How is Dallas going to acquire Davis.  They have no good players they can trade and no high end draft capital.  And the Lakers can basically just sign Irving so a sign and trade doesn't make sense. 

I wouldn't be all that surprised to see LA move on from Davis this summer, but Dallas would be way down the list of teams that could reasonably acquire him. 
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1831 on: February 16, 2023, 10:14:12 AM »

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How is Dallas going to acquire Davis.  They have no good players they can trade and no high end draft capital.  And the Lakers can basically just sign Irving so a sign and trade doesn't make sense. 

I wouldn't be all that surprised to see LA move on from Davis this summer, but Dallas would be way down the list of teams that could reasonably acquire him.

The obvious answer is a Kyrie sign-and-trade.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1832 on: February 16, 2023, 10:20:21 AM »

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How is Dallas going to acquire Davis.  They have no good players they can trade and no high end draft capital.  And the Lakers can basically just sign Irving so a sign and trade doesn't make sense. 

I wouldn't be all that surprised to see LA move on from Davis this summer, but Dallas would be way down the list of teams that could reasonably acquire him.

The obvious answer is a Kyrie sign-and-trade.

Looking past the injury history, AD is seemingly a much better fit than Kyrie. I think that’s actually make them significantly better.

From LAL’s perspective? Not as thrilled with that Kyrie fit, particularly given the questions elsewhere.
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1833 on: February 16, 2023, 10:28:24 AM »

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How is Dallas going to acquire Davis.  They have no good players they can trade and no high end draft capital.  And the Lakers can basically just sign Irving so a sign and trade doesn't make sense. 

I wouldn't be all that surprised to see LA move on from Davis this summer, but Dallas would be way down the list of teams that could reasonably acquire him.

The obvious answer is a Kyrie sign-and-trade.
The Lakers don't need to do that though.  They can sign Kyrie to close to a max without trading AD. 

Lakers are much better off shipping AD somewhere else to get actual and real assets for him, and then just signing Irving in free agency. 
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1834 on: February 16, 2023, 10:35:34 AM »

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How is Dallas going to acquire Davis.  They have no good players they can trade and no high end draft capital.  And the Lakers can basically just sign Irving so a sign and trade doesn't make sense. 

I wouldn't be all that surprised to see LA move on from Davis this summer, but Dallas would be way down the list of teams that could reasonably acquire him.

The obvious answer is a Kyrie sign-and-trade.
The Lakers don't need to do that though.  They can sign Kyrie to close to a max without trading AD. 

Lakers are much better off shipping AD somewhere else to get actual and real assets for him, and then just signing Irving in free agency.

What do you think the Lakers can get for broken down AD?

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1835 on: February 16, 2023, 10:41:24 AM »

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How is Dallas going to acquire Davis.  They have no good players they can trade and no high end draft capital.  And the Lakers can basically just sign Irving so a sign and trade doesn't make sense. 

I wouldn't be all that surprised to see LA move on from Davis this summer, but Dallas would be way down the list of teams that could reasonably acquire him.

The obvious answer is a Kyrie sign-and-trade.
The Lakers don't need to do that though.  They can sign Kyrie to close to a max without trading AD. 

Lakers are much better off shipping AD somewhere else to get actual and real assets for him, and then just signing Irving in free agency.

What do you think the Lakers can get for broken down AD?
a whole lot less than they gave up to get him.  brings a smile to my face just thinking of it.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1836 on: February 16, 2023, 10:43:31 AM »

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How is Dallas going to acquire Davis.  They have no good players they can trade and no high end draft capital.  And the Lakers can basically just sign Irving so a sign and trade doesn't make sense. 

I wouldn't be all that surprised to see LA move on from Davis this summer, but Dallas would be way down the list of teams that could reasonably acquire him.

The obvious answer is a Kyrie sign-and-trade.
The Lakers don't need to do that though.  They can sign Kyrie to close to a max without trading AD. 

Lakers are much better off shipping AD somewhere else to get actual and real assets for him, and then just signing Irving in free agency.

What do you think the Lakers can get for broken down AD?
a whole lot less than they gave up to get him.  brings a smile to my face just thinking of it.

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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1837 on: February 16, 2023, 10:46:09 AM »

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How is Dallas going to acquire Davis.  They have no good players they can trade and no high end draft capital.  And the Lakers can basically just sign Irving so a sign and trade doesn't make sense. 

I wouldn't be all that surprised to see LA move on from Davis this summer, but Dallas would be way down the list of teams that could reasonably acquire him.

The obvious answer is a Kyrie sign-and-trade.
The Lakers don't need to do that though.  They can sign Kyrie to close to a max without trading AD. 

Lakers are much better off shipping AD somewhere else to get actual and real assets for him, and then just signing Irving in free agency.

Why would you add Kyrie and then trade AD? How does that make them better.
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1838 on: February 16, 2023, 10:49:44 AM »

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In his last 15 games, Mobley is averaging 19.1 points on .564/.238/.708 shooting splits with 9.3 rebounds, 2.7 assists, 1.6 blocks and 0.9 steals per game.

Hot streak or is start of a breakout (half) season?
He's taking 2 to 3 more shots over the past month and a half.  The last 15 games is distorted by a 38pts on 27 shots game against the Bucks in which Giannis didn't play.  There was also a 28pt game. 

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1839 on: February 16, 2023, 10:55:06 AM »

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How is Dallas going to acquire Davis.  They have no good players they can trade and no high end draft capital.  And the Lakers can basically just sign Irving so a sign and trade doesn't make sense. 

I wouldn't be all that surprised to see LA move on from Davis this summer, but Dallas would be way down the list of teams that could reasonably acquire him.

The obvious answer is a Kyrie sign-and-trade.
The Lakers don't need to do that though.  They can sign Kyrie to close to a max without trading AD. 

Lakers are much better off shipping AD somewhere else to get actual and real assets for him, and then just signing Irving in free agency.

Why would you add Kyrie and then trade AD? How does that make them better.
My post wasn't clear, I was meaning they would be better off signing Irving and trading AD somewhere else as opposed to trading AD in a sign and trade for Irving (along with draft picks or other things from the Mavs).  They'd get more assets and players by just signing Irving.

I think they are better off just keeping AD if they sign Irving in free agency, but there is a real availability concern with that team so maybe they'd feel better off with a talent downgrade with healthy players and more long term draft assets to allow for more trading.  Like sending AD to the Nets for Bridges and a couple of 1st's.  Something like that.  Or AD to the Suns for Ayton, Shamet, Payne.  Or the Heat for Bam.  Or Boston for Smart, Rob, Gallo, and a 1st.  Or countless other potential trades. 

I just don't think Davis ending up in Dallas, this summer, is realistically likely. 
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1840 on: February 16, 2023, 10:58:12 AM »

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How is Dallas going to acquire Davis.  They have no good players they can trade and no high end draft capital.  And the Lakers can basically just sign Irving so a sign and trade doesn't make sense. 

I wouldn't be all that surprised to see LA move on from Davis this summer, but Dallas would be way down the list of teams that could reasonably acquire him.

The obvious answer is a Kyrie sign-and-trade.
The Lakers don't need to do that though.  They can sign Kyrie to close to a max without trading AD. 

Lakers are much better off shipping AD somewhere else to get actual and real assets for him, and then just signing Irving in free agency.

Why would you add Kyrie and then trade AD? How does that make them better.

The only reason would be if Davis forces his way out.  I actually don't see that happening but it could.

And LAL is not going to sign and trade for Kyrie because that would hard cap them.  They may sign him outright and they may trade Davis separately (but not likely), but I cannot see that they would do a sign and trade involving Kyrie and Davis.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1841 on: February 16, 2023, 11:00:06 AM »

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How is Dallas going to acquire Davis.  They have no good players they can trade and no high end draft capital.  And the Lakers can basically just sign Irving so a sign and trade doesn't make sense. 

I wouldn't be all that surprised to see LA move on from Davis this summer, but Dallas would be way down the list of teams that could reasonably acquire him.

The obvious answer is a Kyrie sign-and-trade.
The Lakers don't need to do that though.  They can sign Kyrie to close to a max without trading AD. 

Lakers are much better off shipping AD somewhere else to get actual and real assets for him, and then just signing Irving in free agency.

They don’t need to, it’s true, but if they do it your way then they have to let Russell walk, cut Beasley, and either let Hachimura walk or cut Bamba.  They just traded a good first and a bunch of seconds for those players, so they clearly place some value on them.  An AD-Kyrie swap lets them keep those guys.  The Lakers would be best served to add Kyrie via a sign-and-trade so they can spend more money and have a deeper roster.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1842 on: February 16, 2023, 11:02:07 AM »

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How is Dallas going to acquire Davis.  They have no good players they can trade and no high end draft capital.  And the Lakers can basically just sign Irving so a sign and trade doesn't make sense. 

I wouldn't be all that surprised to see LA move on from Davis this summer, but Dallas would be way down the list of teams that could reasonably acquire him.

The obvious answer is a Kyrie sign-and-trade.
The Lakers don't need to do that though.  They can sign Kyrie to close to a max without trading AD. 

Lakers are much better off shipping AD somewhere else to get actual and real assets for him, and then just signing Irving in free agency.

Why would you add Kyrie and then trade AD? How does that make them better.

The only reason would be if Davis forces his way out.  I actually don't see that happening but it could.

And LAL is not going to sign and trade for Kyrie because that would hard cap them.  They may sign him outright and they may trade Davis separately (but not likely), but I cannot see that they would do a sign and trade involving Kyrie and Davis.

It is much better next year for the Lakers to sign and trade for Kyrie, because the hard cap is about $40 million over the soft cap, and the Lakers will not be able to go far over the soft cap if they sign Kyrie.  It’s not like they have a bunch of free agents with small cap holds — they’d have to renounce them all.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #1843 on: February 16, 2023, 11:16:20 AM »

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What's all this talk about trading Kyrie?  Has he already said he won't re-sign with the Mavs? 

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« Reply #1844 on: February 16, 2023, 11:18:43 AM »

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How is Dallas going to acquire Davis.  They have no good players they can trade and no high end draft capital.  And the Lakers can basically just sign Irving so a sign and trade doesn't make sense. 

I wouldn't be all that surprised to see LA move on from Davis this summer, but Dallas would be way down the list of teams that could reasonably acquire him.

The obvious answer is a Kyrie sign-and-trade.
The Lakers don't need to do that though.  They can sign Kyrie to close to a max without trading AD. 

Lakers are much better off shipping AD somewhere else to get actual and real assets for him, and then just signing Irving in free agency.

Why would you add Kyrie and then trade AD? How does that make them better.

The only reason would be if Davis forces his way out.  I actually don't see that happening but it could.

And LAL is not going to sign and trade for Kyrie because that would hard cap them.  They may sign him outright and they may trade Davis separately (but not likely), but I cannot see that they would do a sign and trade involving Kyrie and Davis.

It is much better next year for the Lakers to sign and trade for Kyrie, because the hard cap is about $40 million over the soft cap, and the Lakers will not be able to go far over the soft cap if they sign Kyrie.  It’s not like they have a bunch of free agents with small cap holds — they’d have to renounce them all.

It will depend on how D'Angelo Russell fits in with Lebron.  So far they seem to play well together. If the Lakers decide to keep Russell (who is FA also), they obviously won't chase after Kyrie.