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[Goldstar88]

Celtics owners Wyc Grousbeck on trade deadline strategy: It's about this year

Celtics owner Wyc Grousbeck reinforced the notion while discussing the team’s approach to the upcoming NBA trade deadline with Boston president of basketball operations Brad Stevens. “The conversation that I’ve had with Brad is, it’s about this year,” Grousbeck said Saturday on NBC Sports Boston’s “Celtics Pregame Live.” “It’s not about ‘this will pay dividends in three years’ or ‘this will do this next year.’ It is this year. Muscle up and let’s go get the job done. So that’s his instructions, and that’s what we’re going to try to do. If there’s anything to do, we’ll do it. If not, we love this team. We’re at the top of the league right now.” – via Ricky Doyle @ NESN.com

So about that Fournier TPE that you didn’t want to use… 

[Phantom255x]

I do feel for Pritchard. I hope he sticks with us and wins a ring with us but I can completely understand if he wants a bigger role somewhere else. Right now he's probably like our 9th guy on the team (4th off the bench)

[SparzWizard]

After that Wyc quote we probably stand pat and do nothing significant for the trade deadline. Or probably trade picks for picks or salary dump that's about it lol

[Vermont Green]

If there’s anything to do, we’ll do it. If not, we love this team.

Good position to be in.  You have the team with the best record.  You don't have to force a deal just to make a deal.

I hope that things loosen up and we are able to make a deal or get in on some deal.  I don't expect anything big though.  I don't expect them to trade any of the core team:

Smart
Brown
Tatum
Horford
RWIII
White
Brogdon
Grant

Some may cut Grant from that list but I think he is core.  He is playing 28 min/gm.  That is about twice Hauser, for example.  And he has played in 50 of 51 games.  Pritchard by contrast has played in 35 games.  I don't think Kornet or Griffin will be traded as I don't think they have any real value to another team but have some value to the Celtics.  That leaves:

Pritchard
Gallinari
Hauser
Jackson
Picks
Stashes

Not a lot to deal with but enough.  Hauser is probably pretty unlikely to go but could be expendable if we get a better wing in the deal.  I don't think Gallinari is going to play this year, including the finals.  But I feel he still has value for next season.  He will be a useful addition to the team if we keep him.

[Neurotic Guy]

If there’s anything to do, we’ll do it. If not, we love this team.

Good position to be in.  You have the team with the best record.  You don't have to force a deal just to make a deal.

I hope that things loosen up and we are able to make a deal or get in on some deal.  I don't expect anything big though.  I don't expect them to trade any of the core team:

Smart
Brown
Tatum
Horford
RWIII
White
Brogdon
Grant

Some may cut Grant from that list but I think he is core.  He is playing 28 min/gm.  That is about twice Hauser, for example.  And he has played in 50 of 51 games.  Pritchard by contrast has played in 35 games.  I don't think Kornet or Griffin will be traded as I don't think they have any real value to another team but have some value to the Celtics.  That leaves:

Pritchard
Gallinari
Hauser
Jackson
Picks
Stashes

Not a lot to deal with but enough.  Hauser is probably pretty unlikely to go but could be expendable if we get a better wing in the deal.  I don't think Gallinari is going to play this year, including the finals.  But I feel he still has value for next season.  He will be a useful addition to the team if we keep him.

I agree with this.  It would have be “an offer you can’t refuse” to mess with the rotation. The exception would be Grant. Anyone else would, to me, be messing with chemistry.  I think this group can be better than it’s been recently, but it’s a very talented group as is.  As construed and healthy this team has the tools to be elite on both ends.

So that leaves a not terribly appealing package of assets available.  If CBS ends up parting with White, Brogdon, Al, Rob,  or Smart, it better be for a special player/fit.

[Surferdad]

After that Wyc quote we probably stand pat and do nothing significant for the trade deadline. Or probably trade picks for picks or salary dump that's about it lol

I disagree, but I see your point that this has happened before (i.e, Wyc's "fireworks comment a few years ago) and nothing happened. However, Wyc is much more specific this time ("it's about this year"). He stands to lose his credibility (in my mind at least) if he does not act this time.

[Roy H.]

After that Wyc quote we probably stand pat and do nothing significant for the trade deadline. Or probably trade picks for picks or salary dump that's about it lol

I disagree, but I see your point that this has happened before (i.e, Wyc's "fireworks comment a few years ago) and nothing happened. However, Wyc is much more specific this time ("it's about this year"). He stands to lose his credibility (in my mind at least) if he does not act this time.

To me, Wyc doesn't have a lot of credibility when it comes to this stuff.  I'm skeptical of just about every media claim he makes (i.e., he wanted to take Durant over Oden; he's the one who got Brooklyn to give up three #1s in the PP/KG trade, "fireworks", there are no financial limitations, etc.)

He obviously has credibility in other areas.  He's a good NBA owner, and he's quite successful in other areas.  But, I don't take his claims about the Celtics to be anything other than marketing and puffery.

[Vermont Green]

After that Wyc quote we probably stand pat and do nothing significant for the trade deadline. Or probably trade picks for picks or salary dump that's about it lol

I disagree, but I see your point that this has happened before (i.e, Wyc's "fireworks comment a few years ago) and nothing happened. However, Wyc is much more specific this time ("it's about this year"). He stands to lose his credibility (in my mind at least) if he does not act this time.

To me, Wyc doesn't have a lot of credibility when it comes to this stuff.  I'm skeptical of just about every media claim he makes (i.e., he wanted to take Durant over Oden; he's the one who got Brooklyn to give up three #1s in the PP/KG trade, "fireworks", there are no financial limitations, etc.)

He obviously has credibility in other areas.  He's a good NBA owner, and he's quite successful in other areas.  But, I don't take his claims about the Celtics to be anything other than marketing and puffery.

I don't think the most recent statement is all that hard to believe.  All he is saying is that if they do a deal, it will be to help this year.  I think that will prove out, if they do a deal.  If they do a deal, they will bring in a player they feel helps this season.  But he also says that he likes the team and does not feel they have to do a deal.  I don't see any of this most recent statement as being dishonest.  I can't imagine a smart owner saying or doing anything different.

So when the deadline passes, and we don't do much, if anything, none of us fans will know what deals were passed on.  It will seem like they should have done something but who knows what was there to be done.  I don't find it hard to believe that he has directed Stevens do something to make the team better.  He trusts that Stevens won't do a deal just to do a deal.  In the end, there is probably not that much out there to be had, or so it seems at this point.  I hope they do find a deal to make the team better.  I believe they are trying to do that.  We'll see how they do.

“It’s not about ‘this will pay dividends in three years’ or ‘this will do this next year.’ It is this year. Muscle up and let’s go get the job done. So that’s his instructions, and that’s what we’re going to try to do. If there’s anything to do, we’ll do it. If not, we love this team. We’re at the top of the league right now.”

[Roy H.]

After that Wyc quote we probably stand pat and do nothing significant for the trade deadline. Or probably trade picks for picks or salary dump that's about it lol

I disagree, but I see your point that this has happened before (i.e, Wyc's "fireworks comment a few years ago) and nothing happened. However, Wyc is much more specific this time ("it's about this year"). He stands to lose his credibility (in my mind at least) if he does not act this time.

To me, Wyc doesn't have a lot of credibility when it comes to this stuff.  I'm skeptical of just about every media claim he makes (i.e., he wanted to take Durant over Oden; he's the one who got Brooklyn to give up three #1s in the PP/KG trade, "fireworks", there are no financial limitations, etc.)

He obviously has credibility in other areas.  He's a good NBA owner, and he's quite successful in other areas.  But, I don't take his claims about the Celtics to be anything other than marketing and puffery.

I don't think the most recent statement is all that hard to believe.  All he is saying is that if they do a deal, it will be to help this year.  I think that will prove out, if they do a deal.  If they do a deal, they will bring in a player they feel helps this season.  But he also says that he likes the team and does not feel they have to do a deal.  I don't see any of this most recent statement as being dishonest.  I can't imagine a smart owner saying or doing anything different.

So when the deadline passes, and we don't do much, if anything, none of us fans will know what deals were passed on.  It will seem like they should have done something but who knows what was there to be done.  I don't find it hard to believe that he has directed Stevens do something to make the team better.  He trusts that Stevens won't do a deal just to do a deal.  In the end, there is probably not that much out there to be had, or so it seems at this point.  I hope they do find a deal to make the team better.  I believe they are trying to do that.  We'll see how they do.

“It’s not about ‘this will pay dividends in three years’ or ‘this will do this next year.’ It is this year. Muscle up and let’s go get the job done. So that’s his instructions, and that’s what we’re going to try to do. If there’s anything to do, we’ll do it. If not, we love this team. We’re at the top of the league right now.”

I'm skeptical that Wyc's message has been "Muscle up and let’s go get the job done".  That implies going all in, and I'm not sure that I believe that Wyc has really authorized an all-in strategy.  If he had, we'd have used the TPEs.  I find it exceedingly hard to believe that there hasn't been a single trade opportunity that would have benefitted the team this year.

[Celtics2021]

After that Wyc quote we probably stand pat and do nothing significant for the trade deadline. Or probably trade picks for picks or salary dump that's about it lol

I disagree, but I see your point that this has happened before (i.e, Wyc's "fireworks comment a few years ago) and nothing happened. However, Wyc is much more specific this time ("it's about this year"). He stands to lose his credibility (in my mind at least) if he does not act this time.

To me, Wyc doesn't have a lot of credibility when it comes to this stuff.  I'm skeptical of just about every media claim he makes (i.e., he wanted to take Durant over Oden; he's the one who got Brooklyn to give up three #1s in the PP/KG trade, "fireworks", there are no financial limitations, etc.)

He obviously has credibility in other areas.  He's a good NBA owner, and he's quite successful in other areas.  But, I don't take his claims about the Celtics to be anything other than marketing and puffery.

For what it’s worth, I think it will be a very slow deadline for every team, not just the Celtics.  There’s just too little separation between 4-12 in both conferences, so there won’t be many sellers.  On top of that, most of the likely sellers are pretty devoid of useful players to poach.  Further, the majority of these teams also have set up themselves up to have a lot of cap room next summer, so they aren’t going to want to take on deals with future money owed if they can avoid it.  I think you’ll see a bunch of marginal moves for expiring players — the C’s will probably be in on one of those, but j don’t anticipate much excitement for anyone.

[Yuckabuck33]

Celtics owners Wyc Grousbeck on trade deadline strategy: It's about this year

Celtics owner Wyc Grousbeck reinforced the notion while discussing the team’s approach to the upcoming NBA trade deadline with Boston president of basketball operations Brad Stevens. “The conversation that I’ve had with Brad is, it’s about this year,” Grousbeck said Saturday on NBC Sports Boston’s “Celtics Pregame Live.” “It’s not about ‘this will pay dividends in three years’ or ‘this will do this next year.’ It is this year. Muscle up and let’s go get the job done. So that’s his instructions, and that’s what we’re going to try to do. If there’s anything to do, we’ll do it. If not, we love this team. We’re at the top of the league right now.” – via Ricky Doyle @ NESN.com

So about that Fournier TPE that you didn’t want to use… 

Apparently there was no way to use it so it would help us "this year."
Also, does Wyc's emphasis on "this year" and not next year mean that he has suggested to Brad to trade Gallo who reportedly can't help us this year?
(Something I doubt Brad would do without being pressured.)

[Goldstar88]

Hauser replacement on the way... 

Gary Washburn: G-League Maine has added NBA veteran Tony Snell to its roster. #Celtics.  – via Twitter GwashburnGlobe

[Celtics2021]

Hauser replacement on the way... 

Gary Washburn: G-League Maine has added NBA veteran Tony Snell to its roster. #Celtics.  – via Twitter GwashburnGlobe

More like Justin Jackson...

[Vermont Green]

Celtics owners Wyc Grousbeck on trade deadline strategy: It's about this year

Celtics owner Wyc Grousbeck reinforced the notion while discussing the team’s approach to the upcoming NBA trade deadline with Boston president of basketball operations Brad Stevens. “The conversation that I’ve had with Brad is, it’s about this year,” Grousbeck said Saturday on NBC Sports Boston’s “Celtics Pregame Live.” “It’s not about ‘this will pay dividends in three years’ or ‘this will do this next year.’ It is this year. Muscle up and let’s go get the job done. So that’s his instructions, and that’s what we’re going to try to do. If there’s anything to do, we’ll do it. If not, we love this team. We’re at the top of the league right now.” – via Ricky Doyle @ NESN.com

So about that Fournier TPE that you didn’t want to use… 

Apparently there was no way to use it so it would help us "this year."
Also, does Wyc's emphasis on "this year" and not next year mean that he has suggested to Brad to trade Gallo who reportedly can't help us this year?
(Something I doubt Brad would do without being pressured.)

Good point on Gallinari.  He isn't going to help us this year.  The question is what can we get back for him that will.  I am reading between the lines some but to me, I am taking "help this year" to mean someone that helps in the rotation, top 8 or 9, not necessarily someone who is a little better than Jackson or Kornet but not good enough to be in the rotation.  You could argue that getting a player a little better than Jackson (say Reddish) is helping the team this year but I am not sure that is what they are trying to do.

The Fournier TPE probably would have been used if we could have gotten back someone who would crack the top 8 or 9.  But that would mean including picks, of which we don't have so many to trade.  There probably was no deal available to meet the top 8 criteria.  But then people wanted to use the TPE to just get a contract that could then be used in another deal later.  Is this helping the team now?  It could, indirectly, it could also hurt the team.  I don't think they viewed a deal that got them say Noel as something that would help the team now.  Again, debatable, but to me, understandable.

[Roy H.]

Hauser replacement on the way... 

Gary Washburn: G-League Maine has added NBA veteran Tony Snell to its roster. #Celtics.  – via Twitter GwashburnGlobe

More like Justin Jackson...

Yep.  Might as well get a free look at him.  I trust him to be competent more than I do Jackson.