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Re: Timelord (Woj: Out 4-6 weeks)
« Reply #165 on: March 30, 2022, 10:24:03 AM »

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Re: Timelord (Woj: Out 4-6 weeks)
« Reply #166 on: March 30, 2022, 10:34:19 AM »

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You would think with the nickname Timelord, that he could've manipulated the recovery time table more in his favor.

Re: Timelord (Woj: Out 4-6 weeks)
« Reply #167 on: March 30, 2022, 10:34:21 AM »

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Doubt he can come back that quick with conditioning and all..that’s why a backup good center is important

Doesn’t the 4-6 week timeline include conditioning usually ? I can’t imagine he won’t start PT until week 6 for example. Should be once the swelling goes down..?

I'd imagine. He should be back in the gym in two weeks or so and from there it will depend how long until he is at full strength. With him only needing the minor not very invasive surgery, it will be more about if there is any lingering pain more than anything.

Either way, this is great news. I know people might be worried about the long-term outlook with him only going for the trim, but I doubt the team or TL would be putting his career in jeopardy by having him take a risk. Sounds like this is probably a best case scenario...all things considered.

Re: Timelord (Woj: Out 4-6 weeks)
« Reply #168 on: March 30, 2022, 10:40:50 AM »

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You would think with the nickname Timelord, that he could've manipulated the recovery time table more in his favor.

He actually did. In Universe 1.0, he actually broke his leg. He's still young, so he didn't have the experience to avoid injury altogether.

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Re: Timelord (Woj: Out 4-6 weeks)
« Reply #169 on: March 30, 2022, 10:43:02 AM »

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My advice to Rob - take your time coming back and don't do it till you're 100% ready. Remember your knees are the key to your earning ability moving forward and they make you the player you are - can't mess with them. Knee problems at your age are never a great thing.

Also understand - unlike IT4 - that the team has its own interests in mind (winning a title). You need to have your best interests in mind - a long career and maximum earning potential.

The team is not paying you because you're a good guy. They're paying you for your impact on winning games. If you can't jump or play starter minutes in your mid to late 20's because your knees won't allow it - that's not a good outcome for anyone.


Re: Timelord (Woj: Out 4-6 weeks)
« Reply #170 on: March 30, 2022, 10:55:46 AM »

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6 weeks is about sometime in the East Semis.

Hopefully his rehab goes well.


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« Reply #171 on: March 30, 2022, 10:56:20 AM »

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Going for the 1 or 2 seed should CLEARLY be out now.  We need to strategically rest players to attempt to gain a favorable first round match up.  Good news is Milwaukee will be difficult to catch and Miami has an easy schedule if they can right the ship.

Simple facts are Brooklyn will very likely be 7/8 and Rob is more important to our team than home court.

Signing a big like WCS or Thon Maker (or a miraculously healthy Baynes) seems like a no-brainer (what if Al or Theis get banged up?).  I know it's sacrilege, but still prefer Freedom as a break glass guy to Green Kornet.
great news with Timelord if he's back to playing in that 4-6 week window.

with the seeding, anywhere in the top 4 is pretty much a lock but #1 is looking like the best slot for avoiding Brooklyn for those concerned about that matchup. 
- Brooklyn has gotten to #8 in the standings and is very unlikely to slide back to #9 beneath either Charlotte or Atlanta.
- At the #8 seed in the play in round, they play the #7 which is looking like Cleveland.  While not impossible for Cleveland to win that matchup, it's highly unlikely so that puts Brooklyn in as the #7 seed -- takes on whoever is at #2.
- Next round, winner of Brooklyn and the #2 seed gets to take on the winner of the 3-6 matchup.  that would be any of Miami, Mil, Phil against Toronto.  figure odds are that Toronto loses. 
- C's as #1 would be up against the Cavs in all likelihood unless Atlanta or Charlotte upset them in that matchup for the #8 seed.  C's should be any of those teams without Timelord. 
- Second round, C's get the winner of the 4/5 which would likely be Miami, Mil or Phil against Chi.  Chi most likely loses that series so second round C's face Miami, Mil or Phil where Timelord would really be needed.  Miami possibly less so than against Mil or Phil but we stand a much better chance with all hands on deck (obviously).

That's the likely situation for those concerned with avoiding Brooklyn as long as possible (or completely if the hopes are for someone else to knock them off).

For once, I'm going to be optimistic and note that we are one Kyrie temper-tantrum away from Brooklyn possibly getting knocked out.

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Re: Timelord (Woj: Out 4-6 weeks)
« Reply #172 on: March 30, 2022, 11:08:01 AM »

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You would think with the nickname Timelord, that he could've manipulated the recovery time table more in his favor.

He has already done this, but the rest of us need to wait 3-5 weeks to find out.

Re: Timelord (Woj: Out 4-6 weeks)
« Reply #173 on: March 30, 2022, 11:20:51 AM »

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My advice to Rob - take your time coming back and don't do it till you're 100% ready. Remember your knees are the key to your earning ability moving forward and they make you the player you are - can't mess with them. Knee problems at your age are never a great thing.

Also understand - unlike IT4 - that the team has its own interests in mind (winning a title). You need to have your best interests in mind - a long career and maximum earning potential.

The team is not paying you because you're a good guy. They're paying you for your impact on winning games. If you can't jump or play starter minutes in your mid to late 20's because your knees won't allow it - that's not a good outcome for anyone.

Agree with you, but I also think it’s in the team’s best interest that he doesn’t cause himself long term problem. After all, he’s starting a 4 year extension and I’m sure they’d like him to be able to play.

I’m hopeful he can make it back this year, but prefer to have him healthy the rest of his career

Re: Timelord (Woj: Out 4-6 weeks)
« Reply #174 on: March 30, 2022, 11:21:51 AM »

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Doubt he can come back that quick with conditioning and all..that’s why a backup good center is important

Doesn’t the 4-6 week timeline include conditioning usually ? I can’t imagine he won’t start PT until week 6 for example. Should be once the swelling goes down..?

I'd imagine. He should be back in the gym in two weeks or so and from there it will depend how long until he is at full strength. With him only needing the minor not very invasive surgery, it will be more about if there is any lingering pain more than anything.

Either way, this is great news. I know people might be worried about the long-term outlook with him only going for the trim, but I doubt the team or TL would be putting his career in jeopardy by having him take a risk. Sounds like this is probably a best case scenario...all things considered.

I'm worried about his long-term outlook—not because of this particular surgery, but because he has yet to go a full season without a significant injury. Here's a list of his injuries so far in his short career (per foxsports.com):

02/15/2022   Calf
01/01/2022   Toe
11/15/2021   Knee
05/28/2021   Ankle
05/18/2021   Toe
05/09/2021   Foot
05/06/2021   Foot
04/27/2021   Knee
04/15/2021   Knee
02/11/2021   Left Hip
03/09/2020   Back
12/08/2019   Hip
11/16/2019   Right Ankle Soreness
11/13/2019   Ankle
11/01/2019   Left Hip
03/23/2019   Lower Back Contusion
02/12/2019   Back
02/03/2019   Lower Back Soreness
12/27/2018   Groin
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Re: Timelord (Woj: Out 4-6 weeks)
« Reply #175 on: March 30, 2022, 11:25:44 AM »

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You would think with the nickname Timelord, that he could've manipulated the recovery time table more in his favor.

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Re: Timelord (Woj: Out 4-6 weeks)
« Reply #176 on: March 30, 2022, 11:40:41 AM »

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I hope the Bucks playNets first round …..all the GM s should strategize this into fruition

Re: Timelord (Woj: Out 4-6 weeks)
« Reply #177 on: March 30, 2022, 11:47:54 AM »

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Sounds like best case scenario. Love it.

Now we just need to do what we can to avoid Brooklyn in round one to give us the best shot possible of lasting long enough to have a fully healthy team for the playoffs. Still think we can beat Brooklyn without Timelord, though.

Sure we can. Brooklyn is desperately trying to win games right now, barely snuck past Detroit last night thanks to a monster game from KD, lost to Ja-less Memphis the other night, and at home to Charlotte 2 nights ago.

Kyrie & KD are great players and a series against them isn't as attractive as, say, Cleveland, but their team is no juggernaut.

Re: Timelord (Woj: Out 4-6 weeks)
« Reply #178 on: March 30, 2022, 12:02:14 PM »

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Sounds like best case scenario. Love it.

Now we just need to do what we can to avoid Brooklyn in round one to give us the best shot possible of lasting long enough to have a fully healthy team for the playoffs. Still think we can beat Brooklyn without Timelord, though.

Sure we can. Brooklyn is desperately trying to win games right now, barely snuck past Detroit last night thanks to a monster game from KD, lost to Ja-less Memphis the other night, and at home to Charlotte 2 nights ago.

Kyrie & KD are great players and a series against them isn't as attractive as, say, Cleveland, but their team is no juggernaut.
agreed.

I'm not as worried about Brooklyn as others have expressed but even with their issues so far this season, I'd put them in about 5th likeliest to get to the finals out of the East right now.  I see the top 4 teams as having much better cohesiveness and ability to exploit Brooklyn's defense in a series matchup.  That's including Simmons being available to the Nets in the playoffs and not being unfamiliar with whatever D Brooklyn is trying to run. 

Re: Timelord (Woj: Out 4-6 weeks)
« Reply #179 on: March 30, 2022, 12:16:31 PM »

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Doubt he can come back that quick with conditioning and all..that’s why a backup good center is important

Doesn’t the 4-6 week timeline include conditioning usually ? I can’t imagine he won’t start PT until week 6 for example. Should be once the swelling goes down..?

I'd imagine. He should be back in the gym in two weeks or so and from there it will depend how long until he is at full strength. With him only needing the minor not very invasive surgery, it will be more about if there is any lingering pain more than anything.

Either way, this is great news. I know people might be worried about the long-term outlook with him only going for the trim, but I doubt the team or TL would be putting his career in jeopardy by having him take a risk. Sounds like this is probably a best case scenario...all things considered.

I'm worried about his long-term outlook—not because of this particular surgery, but because he has yet to go a full season without a significant injury. Here's a list of his injuries so far in his short career (per foxsports.com):

02/15/2022   Calf
01/01/2022   Toe
11/15/2021   Knee
05/28/2021   Ankle
05/18/2021   Toe
05/09/2021   Foot
05/06/2021   Foot
04/27/2021   Knee
04/15/2021   Knee
02/11/2021   Left Hip
03/09/2020   Back
12/08/2019   Hip
11/16/2019   Right Ankle Soreness
11/13/2019   Ankle
11/01/2019   Left Hip
03/23/2019   Lower Back Contusion
02/12/2019   Back
02/03/2019   Lower Back Soreness
12/27/2018   Groin

Not good and definitely reason for concern moving forward, but doesn't necessarily feel quite as bad when compared to some others. 
Here's an example...  Marcus Smart:
(Jaylen Brown's looks worse)

02/15/2022   Ankle
01/11/2022   Reconditioning
12/27/2021   Hand
12/24/2021   Hip
12/12/2021   Illness
10/29/2021   Illness
10/21/2021   Knee
05/12/2021   Calf
04/19/2021   Illness
01/30/2021   Calf
01/04/2021   Right Thumb
08/12/2020   Rest
03/02/2020   Illness
02/02/2020   Quad
01/25/2020   Left Hand Sprain
01/17/2020   Ankle
12/09/2019   Eye
12/01/2019   Abdomen
11/18/2019   Sprained Right Ankle
04/08/2019   Oblique
03/13/2019   Illness
01/28/2019   Laceration
01/14/2019   Illness
03/12/2018   Torn Thumb Tendon
01/24/2018   Hand Laceration
01/17/2018   Illness
10/20/2017   Sore Ankle