Timelord (Woj: To play limited minutes in Game 3)

[Vermont Green]

Could be a blessing in disguise. I still believe we'd be better off with one Big in our starting lineup. Timelord is arguably our 3rd best player, but at least we'll now have a more mobile starting unit. Chances are we'll be playing at a faster pace on offense, plus we'll be more switchable on defense.

I don't know how you can have seen how the Celtics starting unit have performed all season and still hold onto this view.  I started the season questioning the two big starting lineup, but I've long since given up that doubt.

Yeah, my reaction was hearing the word "still" really loud in my head.  How could anyone still believe that some small ball one big line up is going to be better than the best staring line up statistically in the entire league this year and that ranks fairly high historically.

There is no precedent in the league that a 1 big line up is successful.  You have PHO that plays Crowder as the swing/big along with Ayton, a full sized big.  You have MIA that plays Tucker and Adebayo as the bigs.  I guess you could add BKN who was playing Durant as the second big but Durant is 6'-10".  I think if we were to play Tatum as a big, it could ruin him like PHI ruined Harris.

No, the only debate at this point is Grant Williams or Daniel Theis as the principle second big to play with Horford.  I vote Theis for that role.  Grant has been great as a bench big this year.  That is how he should be used.  And Tatum is playing the best ball of his life in and you want to change his role?  That he will somehow be better if forced to play the PF role?

[Goldstar88]

If I’m this guy’s agent, I’m pushing him to shut it down for the rest of this season.

Why? Williams is on a long-term contract, there's no need to worry about that.

Literally the reason why he should wait and play it safe. He’s gotten the bag. He doesn’t have to rush back. Ease your way back. Protect yourself and potential to earn another deal after this one.

That doesn’t make sense to me. He’s getting his money whether he plays or not. You think he’s going to sit out and let his teammates down just to play it safe?

[Vermont Green]

If I’m this guy’s agent, I’m pushing him to shut it down for the rest of this season.

Why? Williams is on a long-term contract, there's no need to worry about that.

Literally the reason why he should wait and play it safe. He’s gotten the bag. He doesn’t have to rush back. Ease your way back. Protect yourself and potential to earn another deal after this one.

That doesn’t make sense to me. He’s getting his money whether he plays or not. You think he’s going to sit out and let his teammates down just to play it safe?

Williams does not seem like the kind of person who would sit out just to maybe improve his future contract value.  And even if he was, it is probably not a smart strategy.  GMs know what is going on.  If he comes back and plays well in the playoffs, that is worth more to him than if GMs see him as someone who lacks toughness or competitiveness to not be afraid to play.

Now if the Doctors say there is risk or that he is otherwise not fully healed, then no, you don't rush him or force him out on the court.  But if he is cleared to play, you suit up and play, you don't try to calculate what is better for your future contract value.

[PAOBoston]

If I’m this guy’s agent, I’m pushing him to shut it down for the rest of this season.

Why? Williams is on a long-term contract, there's no need to worry about that.

Literally the reason why he should wait and play it safe. He’s gotten the bag. He doesn’t have to rush back. Ease your way back. Protect yourself and potential to earn another deal after this one.

That doesn’t make sense to me. He’s getting his money whether he plays or not. You think he’s going to sit out and let his teammates down just to play it safe?

Jaylen Brown literally did the same thing the other year. Instead of playing through an injury he called it a season and got surgery. I don’t think his teammates would view him differently at all tbh. They understand it is a business and that he’s protecting himself and his future earning potential. Coming back in 6 weeks for a guy like him seems pretty optimistic. Considering the Ca have never been forthright with injuries I take that projection with a large grain of salt.

[tazzmaniac]

Could be a blessing in disguise. I still believe we'd be better off with one Big in our starting lineup. Timelord is arguably our 3rd best player, but at least we'll now have a more mobile starting unit. Chances are we'll be playing at a faster pace on offense, plus we'll be more switchable on defense.

I don't know how you can have seen how the Celtics starting unit have performed all season and still hold onto this view.  I started the season questioning the two big starting lineup, but I've long since given up that doubt.

Yeah, my reaction was hearing the word "still" really loud in my head.  How could anyone still believe that some small ball one big line up is going to be better than the best staring line up statistically in the entire league this year and that ranks fairly high historically.

There is no precedent in the league that a 1 big line up is successful.  You have PHO that plays Crowder as the swing/big along with Ayton, a full sized big.  You have MIA that plays Tucker and Adebayo as the bigs.  I guess you could add BKN who was playing Durant as the second big but Durant is 6'-10".  I think if we were to play Tatum as a big, it could ruin him like PHI ruined Harris.

No, the only debate at this point is Grant Williams or Daniel Theis as the principle second big to play with Horford.  I vote Theis for that role.  Grant has been great as a bench big this year.  That is how he should be used.  And Tatum is playing the best ball of his life in and you want to change his role?  That he will somehow be better if forced to play the PF role?

How in the heck did Philly ruin Harris?  He's the same player that he's been for the past decade or so (i.e.  a borderline star).  He's probably better suited as PF than SF but he has deficiencies defending either position.  Which position Tatum is at should be matchup driven.  I definitely don't want to see Theis defending Giannis. 

[Goldstar88]

If I’m this guy’s agent, I’m pushing him to shut it down for the rest of this season.

Why? Williams is on a long-term contract, there's no need to worry about that.

Literally the reason why he should wait and play it safe. He’s gotten the bag. He doesn’t have to rush back. Ease your way back. Protect yourself and potential to earn another deal after this one.

That doesn’t make sense to me. He’s getting his money whether he plays or not. You think he’s going to sit out and let his teammates down just to play it safe?

Jaylen Brown literally did the same thing the other year. Instead of playing through an injury he called it a season and got surgery. I don’t think his teammates would view him differently at all tbh. They understand it is a business and that he’s protecting himself and his future earning potential. Coming back in 6 weeks for a guy like him seems pretty optimistic. Considering the Ca have never been forthright with injuries I take that projection with a large grain of salt.

JB had surgery in early May of 2021 to repair a torn scapholunate ligament in his left wrist. The recovery time was 3 months. That’s not really comparable as there was no chance of him being able to return for the playoffs.

[gouki88]

Could be a blessing in disguise. I still believe we'd be better off with one Big in our starting lineup. Timelord is arguably our 3rd best player, but at least we'll now have a more mobile starting unit. Chances are we'll be playing at a faster pace on offense, plus we'll be more switchable on defense.

I can't see how one could write this after watching our starting 5 play at a historic level for a sustained period of time. Timelord will be missed

[PAOBoston]

If I’m this guy’s agent, I’m pushing him to shut it down for the rest of this season.

Why? Williams is on a long-term contract, there's no need to worry about that.

Literally the reason why he should wait and play it safe. He’s gotten the bag. He doesn’t have to rush back. Ease your way back. Protect yourself and potential to earn another deal after this one.

That doesn’t make sense to me. He’s getting his money whether he plays or not. You think he’s going to sit out and let his teammates down just to play it safe?

Jaylen Brown literally did the same thing the other year. Instead of playing through an injury he called it a season and got surgery. I don’t think his teammates would view him differently at all tbh. They understand it is a business and that he’s protecting himself and his future earning potential. Coming back in 6 weeks for a guy like him seems pretty optimistic. Considering the Ca have never been forthright with injuries I take that projection with a large grain of salt.

JB had surgery in early May of 2021 to repair a torn scapholunate ligament in his left wrist. The recovery time was 3 months. That’s not really comparable as there was no chance of him being able to return for the playoffs.

He literally could have played through it. It was a pain management thing that he could have just waited until offseason to have surgery. He elected to not do it and pass on the playoffs. His teammates didn’t think any less of him.

[ETNCeltics]

Could be a blessing in disguise. I still believe we'd be better off with one Big in our starting lineup. Timelord is arguably our 3rd best player, but at least we'll now have a more mobile starting unit. Chances are we'll be playing at a faster pace on offense, plus we'll be more switchable on defense.

I don't know how you can have seen how the Celtics starting unit have performed all season and still hold onto this view.  I started the season questioning the two big starting lineup, but I've long since given up that doubt.

Yeah, my reaction was hearing the word "still" really loud in my head.  How could anyone still believe that some small ball one big line up is going to be better than the best staring line up statistically in the entire league this year and that ranks fairly high historically.

There is no precedent in the league that a 1 big line up is successful.  You have PHO that plays Crowder as the swing/big along with Ayton, a full sized big.  You have MIA that plays Tucker and Adebayo as the bigs.  I guess you could add BKN who was playing Durant as the second big but Durant is 6'-10".  I think if we were to play Tatum as a big, it could ruin him like PHI ruined Harris.

No, the only debate at this point is Grant Williams or Daniel Theis as the principle second big to play with Horford.  I vote Theis for that role.  Grant has been great as a bench big this year.  That is how he should be used.  And Tatum is playing the best ball of his life in and you want to change his role?  That he will somehow be better if forced to play the PF role?

Tatum played some of his best basketball in 2020 with only one big, and at times last year. His role offensively would not change if we have to go to a one big lineup. Probably not defensively either, as I believe the last time we played long spans with one big, Brown spent more minutes defending other PFs than Tatum did. That is hardly going to "ruin" Tatum.

Before now, the best basketball of Tatum's career was February 2020 when he won player of the month. When everyone was healthy, our starting 5 was Theis, Tatum, Brown, Smart, Walker. One big, Tatum ostensibly as our PF.

[Billz401]

Hoping for a quick recovery for Rob but ultimately dont rush it. I would hate for it to become a lingering issue and by the looks of things our young guys got a bright future ahead! Best case scenario our guys can weather the storm for a round or 2 and give him that 5 week range to recover

[smokeablount]

Could be a blessing in disguise. I still believe we'd be better off with one Big in our starting lineup. Timelord is arguably our 3rd best player, but at least we'll now have a more mobile starting unit. Chances are we'll be playing at a faster pace on offense, plus we'll be more switchable on defense.

I don't know how you can have seen how the Celtics starting unit have performed all season and still hold onto this view.  I started the season questioning the two big starting lineup, but I've long since given up that doubt.

Yeah, my reaction was hearing the word "still" really loud in my head.  How could anyone still believe that some small ball one big line up is going to be better than the best staring line up statistically in the entire league this year and that ranks fairly high historically.

There is no precedent in the league that a 1 big line up is successful.  You have PHO that plays Crowder as the swing/big along with Ayton, a full sized big.  You have MIA that plays Tucker and Adebayo as the bigs.  I guess you could add BKN who was playing Durant as the second big but Durant is 6'-10".  I think if we were to play Tatum as a big, it could ruin him like PHI ruined Harris.

No, the only debate at this point is Grant Williams or Daniel Theis as the principle second big to play with Horford.  I vote Theis for that role.  Grant has been great as a bench big this year.  That is how he should be used.  And Tatum is playing the best ball of his life in and you want to change his role?  That he will somehow be better if forced to play the PF role?

I’d rather have Theis as our 2nd string center when Horford isn’t out there than Grant. I don’t like Grant as the biggest guy on the floor, so I’d be more inclined to start him for that reason alone.

[coco]

1) I hope we don’t rush him back
2) we are legit contenders with TL.  Unknown how far we can go without all the 2nd chances he provides, the ally-oop threat and the block shot threat he provides….not to mention the energy he brings

[Goldstar88]

If I’m this guy’s agent, I’m pushing him to shut it down for the rest of this season.

Why? Williams is on a long-term contract, there's no need to worry about that.

Literally the reason why he should wait and play it safe. He’s gotten the bag. He doesn’t have to rush back. Ease your way back. Protect yourself and potential to earn another deal after this one.

That doesn’t make sense to me. He’s getting his money whether he plays or not. You think he’s going to sit out and let his teammates down just to play it safe?

Jaylen Brown literally did the same thing the other year. Instead of playing through an injury he called it a season and got surgery. I don’t think his teammates would view him differently at all tbh. They understand it is a business and that he’s protecting himself and his future earning potential. Coming back in 6 weeks for a guy like him seems pretty optimistic. Considering the Ca have never been forthright with injuries I take that projection with a large grain of salt.

JB had surgery in early May of 2021 to repair a torn scapholunate ligament in his left wrist. The recovery time was 3 months. That’s not really comparable as there was no chance of him being able to return for the playoffs.

He literally could have played through it. It was a pain management thing that he could have just waited until offseason to have surgery. He elected to not do it and pass on the playoffs. His teammates didn’t think any less of him.

Yeah, that’s not true.

“According to the team, Brown was diagnosed with a torn scapholunate ligament in his left wrist this weekend. He is expected to have the torn ligament surgically repaired later this week.

An NBA source tells SportsCenter 5's Chris Gasper that Brown has been dealing with and playing through a nagging wrist injury during the season, but recent testing revealed that the injury was much more serious and the season-ending surgery was necessary.”


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wcvb.com/amp/article/boston-celtics-jaylen-brown-out-for-season-wrist-injury/36388179

[MattyIce]

If I’m this guy’s agent, I’m pushing him to shut it down for the rest of this season.

Why? Williams is on a long-term contract, there's no need to worry about that.

Literally the reason why he should wait and play it safe. He’s gotten the bag. He doesn’t have to rush back. Ease your way back. Protect yourself and potential to earn another deal after this one.

That doesn’t make sense to me. He’s getting his money whether he plays or not. You think he’s going to sit out and let his teammates down just to play it safe?

Jaylen Brown literally did the same thing the other year. Instead of playing through an injury he called it a season and got surgery. I don’t think his teammates would view him differently at all tbh. They understand it is a business and that he’s protecting himself and his future earning potential. Coming back in 6 weeks for a guy like him seems pretty optimistic. Considering the Ca have never been forthright with injuries I take that projection with a large grain of salt.

JB had surgery in early May of 2021 to repair a torn scapholunate ligament in his left wrist. The recovery time was 3 months. That’s not really comparable as there was no chance of him being able to return for the playoffs.

He literally could have played through it. It was a pain management thing that he could have just waited until offseason to have surgery. He elected to not do it and pass on the playoffs. His teammates didn’t think any less of him.

not true

[MattyIce]

If I’m this guy’s agent, I’m pushing him to shut it down for the rest of this season.

Why? Williams is on a long-term contract, there's no need to worry about that.

Literally the reason why he should wait and play it safe. He’s gotten the bag. He doesn’t have to rush back. Ease your way back. Protect yourself and potential to earn another deal after this one.

That doesn’t make sense to me. He’s getting his money whether he plays or not. You think he’s going to sit out and let his teammates down just to play it safe?

Jaylen Brown literally did the same thing the other year. Instead of playing through an injury he called it a season and got surgery. I don’t think his teammates would view him differently at all tbh. They understand it is a business and that he’s protecting himself and his future earning potential. Coming back in 6 weeks for a guy like him seems pretty optimistic. Considering the Ca have never been forthright with injuries I take that projection with a large grain of salt.

JB had surgery in early May of 2021 to repair a torn scapholunate ligament in his left wrist. The recovery time was 3 months. That’s not really comparable as there was no chance of him being able to return for the playoffs.

He literally could have played through it. It was a pain management thing that he could have just waited until offseason to have surgery. He elected to not do it and pass on the playoffs. His teammates didn’t think any less of him.

Yeah, that’s not true.

“According to the team, Brown was diagnosed with a torn scapholunate ligament in his left wrist this weekend. He is expected to have the torn ligament surgically repaired later this week.

An NBA source tells SportsCenter 5's Chris Gasper that Brown has been dealing with and playing through a nagging wrist injury during the season, but recent testing revealed that the injury was much more serious and the season-ending surgery was necessary.”


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wcvb.com/amp/article/boston-celtics-jaylen-brown-out-for-season-wrist-injury/36388179

sorry just saw this, correct
TP for beating me to it