Grant Williams on the trade block

[Moranis]

Grant may very well be the best asset the Celtics have, so it would make sense that his name came up

I like Grant but god thats’s depressing

Grant nowhere near the best asset, he's just may be the best asset fans are willing to trade.  The key is that any players that's good or really good is untradeable.

Well obviously I'm not counting guys like Tatum and Brown, but of the guys on rookie contracts or draft picks, I think Grant probably is the best asset depending on how you view way in the future draft picks. 

[PhoSita]

only reason to trade Grant is if some contender sees him as a vital piece to a deep playoff run and they offer you a 1st round pick and a young player with upside, something like that.

Grant is a cost controlled role player who knows his role, is lights out from outside, and usually knows where to be and how to execute plays, even if he's too short to make an impact on defense as often as you'd like.


a depressing thing about being more or less rooted in the "also-ran" category is that if you have players on your team who seem perfectly suited to a supporting role on a contender, especially if those players are on bargain contracts, you're mostly going to hear about relevant teams trying to vulture them for an upcoming playoff run.

[Goldstar88]

only reason to trade Grant is if some contender sees him as a vital piece to a deep playoff run and they offer you a 1st round pick and a young player with upside, something like that.

Grant is a cost controlled role player who knows his role, is lights out from outside, and usually knows where to be and how to execute plays, even if he's too short to make an impact on defense as often as you'd like.

For Grant? 

[Celtics2021]

Grant may very well be the best asset the Celtics have, so it would make sense that his name came up

I like Grant but god thats’s depressing

Grant nowhere near the best asset, he's just may be the best asset fans are willing to trade.  The key is that any players that's good or really good is untradeable.

Well obviously I'm not counting guys like Tatum and Brown, but of the guys on rookie contracts or draft picks, I think Grant probably is the best asset depending on how you view way in the future draft picks.

I guess it depends if you think Rob is on the table or off as to whether you think Grant is the best asset.

[Goldstar88]

Grant may very well be the best asset the Celtics have, so it would make sense that his name came up

I like Grant but god thats’s depressing

Grant nowhere near the best asset, he's just may be the best asset fans are willing to trade.  The key is that any players that's good or really good is untradeable.

Well obviously I'm not counting guys like Tatum and Brown, but of the guys on rookie contracts or draft picks, I think Grant probably is the best asset depending on how you view way in the future draft picks.

Pretty sure Richardson and Schroder would net the C’s a better return than Grant would.

[Neurotic Guy]

Grant may very well be the best asset the Celtics have, so it would make sense that his name came up

I like Grant but god thats’s depressing

It's not quite as much about what Grant is doing for the Celtics, but what other teams perceive he could do for them.  It seems very plausible to me that Grant would be an appealing asset to some teams.  He can shoot, hits his FTs, plays hard, plays smart, defends well... he suffers from size deficits in matchups, but the guy recently turned 23, is a hard worker, and I think there are many teams who would see him as being BETTER than an unknown mid first-round draft pick (for example) and a good asset to get back in package for a presently more impactful player.  Schroeder plus Williams sounds a good deal more impressive than Schroeder alone.   

[Celtics2021]

Grant may very well be the best asset the Celtics have, so it would make sense that his name came up

I like Grant but god thats’s depressing

Grant nowhere near the best asset, he's just may be the best asset fans are willing to trade.  The key is that any players that's good or really good is untradeable.

Well obviously I'm not counting guys like Tatum and Brown, but of the guys on rookie contracts or draft picks, I think Grant probably is the best asset depending on how you view way in the future draft picks.

Pretty sure Richardson and Schroder would net the C’s a better return than Grant would.

Richardson, maybe, but I think Grant would absolutely net the C's a better return that Schroder.

[PhoSita]

only reason to trade Grant is if some contender sees him as a vital piece to a deep playoff run and they offer you a 1st round pick and a young player with upside, something like that.

Grant is a cost controlled role player who knows his role, is lights out from outside, and usually knows where to be and how to execute plays, even if he's too short to make an impact on defense as often as you'd like.

For Grant? 

yeah, i mean ... Grant is a 1st round pick on a rookie contract, is a lights out spot up shooter with low usage, plays a position where it is difficult to find shooting + adequate defense.

so if the Celts are trading him, you would need to be getting back something more than just, say, a late 1st round pick. what's the point of using a late 1st round pick on a player,  that player turns into a decent role player, then you trade him for a late 1st round pick before his cost even goes up?

I'm assuming a contender is not offering a higher quality 1st round pick e.g. late lottery / mid-1st.  If a playoff contender could offer a pick likely to fall in the 10-15 range, then I think trading Grant straight up for a single pick would make sense.  But if all you're getting back is a late 1st round pick, that seems like negative value to me.  After all, most late 1st round picks don't turn into rotation players.


In short, if you're trading Grant, to me that only makes sense if you're getting a return that seems kind of exorbitant.  Grant as a trade piece is the kind of commodity that teams in a position to win ought to overpay for .... cost controlled low usage role players who could really help a contender for multiple playoff runs.

If the other team doesn't make a really nice offer, you may as well just keep him.  If they don't want to pay him when he's about to his RFA they can just trade him at that trade deadline for a lesser pick, or do a sign and trade when he hits RFA.

[Vermont Green]

I put Schroder as having the highest trade value.  I think a lot of teams would value his skills.  He can be a legit starting NBA PG on a good team.  Next I put Richardson.  A good veteran wing who can also start or be really effective as the wing off the bench.

If Schroder and Richardson are fringe starters, GWill is fringe rotation.  He has been serviceable for us as a bench player but only because we have about the worst big rotation in the league.  I applaud Grant for his hard work and improvement but he is still a terribly undersized and limited player.  He is a decent 3pt shooter but only from the corner and only when wide open.  He does have good shot selection though.  I will give him that.

On a team with a more complete or balanced roster, Grant gets about 12 min off the bench as the 4th or 5th big.

[BruceBanner18]

I doubt teams are calling specifically about Grant. I would expect many would rather have him than say PP or Langford when smaller pieces of deals are being discussed

[SHAQATTACK]

I d listen to trades about GWill

But , I d have a answering machine that starts with the recording message   “. If this call is about acquiring Rob Williams ,  the answer is NO .   Have a good day.

[PhoSita]

I put Schroder as having the highest trade value.  I think a lot of teams would value his skills. 

if this were true I dont' think the Celts would have been able to afford him this past summer.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

I've never been a big Grant Williams fan, but I have to admit that he's improved this season, especially his 3pt shooting, so it would seem a bit silly to me for the Cs to move him when shooting has been one of their biggest issues.

[#1P4P]

On the trade block means he’s being actively shopped, when it’s more like teams are asking about his price.

With how well Grant has played this season, Brad’s favor (he’s thought highly enough to play him rather consistently since his rookie year and he doesn’t like playing rookies), his low salary, and his low trade value (what does a package featuring Grant actually retrieve?), it would take a “lopsided” deal to move him.

They weren’t trading rotation players before the winning streak nor after it. Now, Schroder and the players outside of the rotation are on the outside looking in, everything else is writers blowing smoke trying to capitalize on the trade speculation traffic.

[SparzWizard]

G.Will, Aaron Nesmith and picks for John Collins...will Atlanta bite