Grant Williams on the trade block

[Silas]

G.Will, Aaron Nesmith and picks for John Collins...will Atlanta bite

I would run not walk to finish that trade if it was out there. 

[jambr380]

I put Schroder as having the highest trade value.  I think a lot of teams would value his skills. 

if this were true I dont' think the Celts would have been able to afford him this past summer.

You're not wrong, but I remember hearing that Schroder was Chicago's 2nd choice this past summer. If NOP just decided they wanted to keep Lonzo (which they obviously should have), then we might be talking about Dennis making ~$15M/yr right now and not really batting an eye. I don't think we'll ever be talking about Grant making that much money, but I'd love to see him advance to that point.

[Alleyoopster]

G.Will, Aaron Nesmith and picks for John Collins...will Atlanta bite

I would run not walk to finish that trade if it was out there.

You'd have to throw in at least one first rounder or more. I doubt very much Collins in on the trading block - even for future number one picks. And, with the possibility of injuries cropping up Brad wouldn't want to risk the future of the team.

I wouldn't give up Grant Williams for anyone except for a John Collins type of player. I just don't see that happening. I like the way he plays. I hope he doesn't go anywhere. 

What upsets me is a top team like the Suns, Warriors, Lakers or the Nets will acquire an aging superstar for nothing after the trade deadline. This seems to be a yearly ritual. 

[Big333223]

Grant may very well be the best asset the Celtics have, so it would make sense that his name came up

I like Grant but god thats’s depressing

Grant nowhere near the best asset, he's just may be the best asset fans are willing to trade.  The key is that any players that's good or really good is untradeable.

Well obviously I'm not counting guys like Tatum and Brown, but of the guys on rookie contracts or draft picks, I think Grant probably is the best asset depending on how you view way in the future draft picks.

I guess it depends if you think Rob is on the table or off as to whether you think Grant is the best asset.

I imagine Brad is telling folks that the J's and Rob are basically off the table. After that, I do think that Grant and Marcus are the team's best trade assets and given Grant's age and shooting, he might be more desirable.

[Celtics2021]

G.Will, Aaron Nesmith and picks for John Collins...will Atlanta bite

I would run not walk to finish that trade if it was out there.

You'd have to throw in at least one first rounder or more. I doubt very much Collins in on the trading block - even for future number one picks. And, with the possibility of injuries cropping up Brad wouldn't want to risk the future of the team.

I wouldn't give up Grant Williams for anyone except for a John Collins type of player. I just don't see that happening. I like the way he plays. I hope he doesn't go anywhere. 

What upsets me is a top team like the Suns, Warriors, Lakers or the Nets will acquire an aging superstar for nothing after the trade deadline. This seems to be a yearly ritual.

Not sure about that this year.   The buyout market seems pretty thin.  Maybe Thad Young hits it if he's not traded, but there aren't a lot of expiring deals out there, and the Rockets don't seem inclined to buy out John Wall at this point unless he gives up about $40 million in salary, which he also isn't inclined to do.  There aren't a lot of quality players on bad teams with expiring deals -- the buyouts happened this summer instead.  Paul Millsap will likely come available, but he's been pretty bad this year.  Also, I have no problem if the Suns acquire a buyout guy -- it'd be refreshing to see them get someone instead of the usual suspects.

[radiohead]

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-trade-rumors-the-reason-celtics-are-balking-at-bucks-dennis-schroder-trade-demands/

The Bucks apparently want him as part of an expanded Schroder-Divincenzo deal.

[Vermont Green]

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-trade-rumors-the-reason-celtics-are-balking-at-bucks-dennis-schroder-trade-demands/

The Bucks apparently want him as part of an expanded Schroder-Divincenzo deal.

Interesting development.  I can see MIL wanting GWill, he wouldn't play much there, but he might come off the bench and hit a big 3 for them.  It is tough for the Celtics to trade GWill, not because he is so great, but because the "next man up", Bruno Fernando, is even worse.  If MIL wants a bench PF, they can have Bruno, he can sit next to Semi on the bench.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-trade-rumors-the-reason-celtics-are-balking-at-bucks-dennis-schroder-trade-demands/

The Bucks apparently want him as part of an expanded Schroder-Divincenzo deal.

Interesting development.  I can see MIL wanting GWill, he wouldn't play much there, but he might come off the bench and hit a big 3 for them.  It is tough for the Celtics to trade GWill, not because he is so great, but because the "next man up", Bruno Fernando, is even worse.  If MIL wants a bench PF, they can have Bruno, he can sit next to Semi on the bench.

This is just a great example of how wrong Celtics fans can be about their own player development. Grant Williams is a solid playoff rotation player on a cost-contolled contract. We can't give him up to get under the tax. We can't give up two playoff rotation players for one underachieving player due for a contract extension.

I really doubt these were actually conversations that were had.

[boscel33]

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-trade-rumors-the-reason-celtics-are-balking-at-bucks-dennis-schroder-trade-demands/

The Bucks apparently want him as part of an expanded Schroder-Divincenzo deal.

Interesting development.  I can see MIL wanting GWill, he wouldn't play much there, but he might come off the bench and hit a big 3 for them.  It is tough for the Celtics to trade GWill, not because he is so great, but because the "next man up", Bruno Fernando, is even worse.  If MIL wants a bench PF, they can have Bruno, he can sit next to Semi on the bench.

I think GWill and Bruno are two different players.  GWill was drafted and is expected to be an outside, 3PT guy, Bruno is not that guy. 

No one is going to say this about GWill:  Bruno is big, strong and lean with an NBA ready body. At the Combine, he measured 6’10.25 (with shoes) with a wing span of 7’3.25. He weighed in at 237 pounds with a body fat of 5.4%. He possesses a relatively rare combination of size, length and athleticism.

https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2019/5/30/18640565/bruno-fernando-atlanta-hawks-2019-nba-draft-scouting-report-maryland

If it's Dennis, GWill for Donte, there has to be a pick or another player (cheap) coming back too.

[radiohead]

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-trade-rumors-the-reason-celtics-are-balking-at-bucks-dennis-schroder-trade-demands/

The Bucks apparently want him as part of an expanded Schroder-Divincenzo deal.

Interesting development.  I can see MIL wanting GWill, he wouldn't play much there, but he might come off the bench and hit a big 3 for them.  It is tough for the Celtics to trade GWill, not because he is so great, but because the "next man up", Bruno Fernando, is even worse.  If MIL wants a bench PF, they can have Bruno, he can sit next to Semi on the bench.

This is just a great example of how wrong Celtics fans can be about their own player development. Grant Williams is a solid playoff rotation player on a cost-contolled contract. We can't give him up to get under the tax. We can't give up two playoff rotation players for one underachieving player due for a contract extension.

I really doubt these were actually conversations that were had.

It seems like Brad rejected the idea of including GWill. A Schroder-Divincenzo swap apparently doesn’t interest the Bucks, thus a standstill.

[nyceltsfan]

Can someone please help me understand the intrigue that PBS has with DiVincenzo?  He is shooting 28% from 3 point range this year and averaging 7 points a game.  I know the alternative is to lose Schroeder for nothing after the season, but wouldn't we rather have Schroeder for the rest of the year than DiVincenzo for longer?  What are we adding to this team by making that deal?

Thank you!

[radiohead]

Can someone please help me understand the intrigue that PBS has with DiVincenzo?  He is shooting 28% from 3 point range this year and averaging 7 points a game.  I know the alternative is to lose Schroeder for nothing after the season, but wouldn't we rather have Schroeder for the rest of the year than DiVincenzo for longer?  What are we adding to this team by making that deal?

Thank you!

He’s probably trying to “buy low” on Divincenzo considering he just came back from a major injury. He was pretty solid for the bucks before he got injured.

[nickagneta]

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-trade-rumors-the-reason-celtics-are-balking-at-bucks-dennis-schroder-trade-demands/

The Bucks apparently want him as part of an expanded Schroder-Divincenzo deal.

Interesting development.  I can see MIL wanting GWill, he wouldn't play much there, but he might come off the bench and hit a big 3 for them.  It is tough for the Celtics to trade GWill, not because he is so great, but because the "next man up", Bruno Fernando, is even worse.  If MIL wants a bench PF, they can have Bruno, he can sit next to Semi on the bench.

I think GWill and Bruno are two different players.  GWill was drafted and is expected to be an outside, 3PT guy, Bruno is not that guy. 

No one is going to say this about GWill:  Bruno is big, strong and lean with an NBA ready body. At the Combine, he measured 6’10.25 (with shoes) with a wing span of 7’3.25. He weighed in at 237 pounds with a body fat of 5.4%. He possesses a relatively rare combination of size, length and athleticism.

https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2019/5/30/18640565/bruno-fernando-atlanta-hawks-2019-nba-draft-scouting-report-maryland

If it's Dennis, GWill for Donte, there has to be a pick or another player (cheap) coming back too.

No one will say this about Bruno: He is a rotation player. Great measurements don't equal good player. Bruno is not a good player.

[W8ting2McHale]

The Pelicans are trying to improve their outside shooting and get into the playoffs. They just traded for McCollum. Grant is a short and thick 4, maybe we can trade him for that short and thick 4 that’s been injured a lot since New Orleans drafted him. Zion something? He might have a higher ceiling than Grant? Maybe throw in Romeo or Nesmith since they traded a bunch of guards away getting CJ?

- the above is a joke.

[Surferdad]

https://clutchpoints.com/nba-trade-rumors-the-reason-celtics-are-balking-at-bucks-dennis-schroder-trade-demands/

The Bucks apparently want him as part of an expanded Schroder-Divincenzo deal.

Interesting development.  I can see MIL wanting GWill, he wouldn't play much there, but he might come off the bench and hit a big 3 for them.  It is tough for the Celtics to trade GWill, not because he is so great, but because the "next man up", Bruno Fernando, is even worse.  If MIL wants a bench PF, they can have Bruno, he can sit next to Semi on the bench.

I think GWill and Bruno are two different players.  GWill was drafted and is expected to be an outside, 3PT guy, Bruno is not that guy. 

No one is going to say this about GWill:  Bruno is big, strong and lean with an NBA ready body. At the Combine, he measured 6’10.25 (with shoes) with a wing span of 7’3.25. He weighed in at 237 pounds with a body fat of 5.4%. He possesses a relatively rare combination of size, length and athleticism.

https://www.peachtreehoops.com/2019/5/30/18640565/bruno-fernando-atlanta-hawks-2019-nba-draft-scouting-report-maryland

If it's Dennis, GWill for Donte, there has to be a pick or another player (cheap) coming back too.

No one will say this about Bruno: He is a rotation player. Great measurements don't equal good player. Bruno is not a good player.

Agreed, and Grant IS big, strong and lean (recently) and with an NBA ready body.  He's one of the stronger players in the entire NBA.  I recall he came out #1 in some strength measure, perhaps dead-lift.