Terrence Ross for Dennis Shroder

[wdleehi]

I think the trade would need to include another team willing to send draft picks for Schroder to be sent to the Magic.

First one comes to mind: the Knicks.

I was thinking about Denver as well.

Schroder to Denver.   Denver trades 2 2nd round picks plus Rivers and Campazzo.  (one goes to Boston, one Orlando.   Money wise it doesn't matter)

Boston sends out Schroder, Juancho  and a 2nd round pick out to get Ross and one Denver player

Orlando  sends out Ross  and  recieves Juancho,one Denver player and 3 2nd round picks.

[Sophomore]

I think the trade would need to include another team willing to send draft picks for Schroder to be sent to the Magic.

First one comes to mind: the Knicks.

I was thinking about Denver as well.

Schroder to Denver.   Denver trades 2 2nd round picks plus Rivers and Campazzo.  (one goes to Boston, one Orlando.   Money wise it doesn't matter)

Boston sends out Schroder, Juancho  and a 2nd round pick out to get Ross and one Denver player

Orlando  sends out Ross  and  recieves Juancho,one Denver player and 3 2nd round picks.

What does Denver get in this deal?

[wdleehi]

I think the trade would need to include another team willing to send draft picks for Schroder to be sent to the Magic.

First one comes to mind: the Knicks.

I was thinking about Denver as well.

Schroder to Denver.   Denver trades 2 2nd round picks plus Rivers and Campazzo.  (one goes to Boston, one Orlando.   Money wise it doesn't matter)

Boston sends out Schroder, Juancho  and a 2nd round pick out to get Ross and one Denver player

Orlando  sends out Ross  and  recieves Juancho,one Denver player and 3 2nd round picks.

What does Denver get in this deal?

A pg who is more of a scorer to give them a weapon until Murray returns.

[Sophomore]

I think the trade would need to include another team willing to send draft picks for Schroder to be sent to the Magic.

First one comes to mind: the Knicks.

I was thinking about Denver as well.

Schroder to Denver.   Denver trades 2 2nd round picks plus Rivers and Campazzo.  (one goes to Boston, one Orlando.   Money wise it doesn't matter)

Boston sends out Schroder, Juancho  and a 2nd round pick out to get Ross and one Denver player

Orlando  sends out Ross  and  recieves Juancho,one Denver player and 3 2nd round picks.

What does Denver get in this deal?

A pg who is more of a scorer to give them a weapon until Murray returns.

Read it too fast! Didn’t see Schroder to Denver.

[Goldstar88]

Pass on Ross. Do we not have enough guys that can play the 2/3? Tatum, Brown, Smart, Richardson, Romeo, Nesmith. Did I miss anyone?  He’s also shooting a terrible percentage from 3pt this year and I don’t think he’s a very good defender. Would much rather give Richardson more minutes.

[todd_days_41]

Pass on Ross. Do we not have enough guys that can play the 2/3? Tatum, Brown, Smart, Richardson, Romeo, Nesmith. Did I miss anyone?  He’s also shooting a terrible percentage from 3pt this year and I don’t think he’s a very good defender. Would much rather give Richardson more minutes.

You would pass on Ross to save room for Romeo and Nesmith? Ross has the 2nd most points off the bench of any player in the NBA the last two seasons, I believe.

Scoring from guys not named Tatum and Brown is a major issue for this team, as is 3 point shooting. Ross would be an excellent fit. You don't pass on him to keep seats warm for guys who suck.

[Goldstar88]

Pass on Ross. Do we not have enough guys that can play the 2/3? Tatum, Brown, Smart, Richardson, Romeo, Nesmith. Did I miss anyone?  He’s also shooting a terrible percentage from 3pt this year and I don’t think he’s a very good defender. Would much rather give Richardson more minutes.

You would pass on Ross to save room for Romeo and Nesmith? Ross has the 2nd most points off the bench of any player in the NBA the last two seasons, I believe.

Scoring from guys not named Tatum and Brown is a major issue for this team, as is 3 point shooting. Ross would be an excellent fit. You don't pass on him to keep seats warm for guys who suck.

More points doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s having a positive impact on his team. He’s shooting 30.1% from 3pt and 40% from the field. You want to add more below average shooters? Also, Schroder is averaging 16.5pts off the bench and Grant has been lights out all season.

[todd_days_41]

I think the trade would need to include another team willing to send draft picks for Schroder to be sent to the Magic.

First one comes to mind: the Knicks.

I was thinking about Denver as well.

Schroder to Denver.   Denver trades 2 2nd round picks plus Rivers and Campazzo.  (one goes to Boston, one Orlando.   Money wise it doesn't matter)

Boston sends out Schroder, Juancho  and a 2nd round pick out to get Ross and one Denver player

Orlando  sends out Ross  and  recieves Juancho,one Denver player and 3 2nd round picks.

But with Murray and Porter out, is Denver really playing for the 'now'?

As for the Knicks, how about:

Cs get: Ross
Cs trade: Juancho, Schroder, 2022 2nd

Knicks trade: Knox, 2023 DET 2nd
Knicks get: Schroder

Magic trade: Ross
Magic get: Jauncho, Knox, 2022 BOS 2nd, 2023 DET 2nd

[todd_days_41]

Pass on Ross. Do we not have enough guys that can play the 2/3? Tatum, Brown, Smart, Richardson, Romeo, Nesmith. Did I miss anyone?  He’s also shooting a terrible percentage from 3pt this year and I don’t think he’s a very good defender. Would much rather give Richardson more minutes.

You would pass on Ross to save room for Romeo and Nesmith? Ross has the 2nd most points off the bench of any player in the NBA the last two seasons, I believe.

Scoring from guys not named Tatum and Brown is a major issue for this team, as is 3 point shooting. Ross would be an excellent fit. You don't pass on him to keep seats warm for guys who suck.

More points doesn’t mean that he’s having a positive impact on his team. He’s shooting 30.1% from 3pt and 40% from the field. You want to add more below average shooters? Also, Schroder is averaging 16.5pts off the bench and Grant has been lights out all season.

Schroder is gone at season's end. No idea what Grant has to do with it... as a team we shoot poorly. And if you like watching Romeo Langford score 4 points a game when he plays (35% of games), good for you. I don't.

I don't really care about the numbers. Last I checked, Ross is a professional scorer off the bench. And last I checked, the Cs could REALLY use one of those.

[Celtics2021]

My main issue with Ross is that he's under contract for next year, and we already have limited flexibility next summer.  Basketball-wise I'd go with Juancho + Nesmith, and I don't think that's crazy for Orlando, personally, since it clears them $8 million in salary next season and gives them a prospect who has a chance to pan out, while the Celtics get someone more usable in their rotation.  Ross is an expiring contract next summer, which isn't completely terrible, but I think the Celtics would be better off with more headroom under the apron, which Ross eliminates.

All that said, the C's need to have a good January before making either a Schroder-Ross deal, or any deal for Ross at all.

[Atzar]

My main issue with Ross is that he sucks.  He's an inefficient chucker who is allowed to fire away because Orlando isn't actually trying to win games.  And there's no light at the end of the tunnel, because his eFG% has dropped each of the last three seasons and his defense has also cratered. 

Seriously, why do we want this guy?  He doesn't shoot well.  He doesn't pass well.  He doesn't defend well.  Is it just because he had a good game against us a couple of nights ago? 

[todd_days_41]

My main issue with Ross is that he sucks.  He's an inefficient chucker who is allowed to fire away because Orlando isn't actually trying to win games.  And there's no light at the end of the tunnel, because his eFG% has dropped each of the last three seasons and his defense has also cratered. 

Seriously, why do we want this guy?  He doesn't shoot well.  He doesn't pass well.  He doesn't defend well.  Is it just because he had a good game against us a couple of nights ago?

I guess because a lot of our players suck. And Ross would be more fun to watch suck than a bunch of our guys.

I’ve suggested him as a more of a “throw in” in a deal for Cole Anthony. I’d certainly prefer that.

[Goldstar88]

My main issue with Ross is that he sucks.  He's an inefficient chucker who is allowed to fire away because Orlando isn't actually trying to win games.  And there's no light at the end of the tunnel, because his eFG% has dropped each of the last three seasons and his defense has also cratered. 

Seriously, why do we want this guy?  He doesn't shoot well.  He doesn't pass well.  He doesn't defend well.  Is it just because he had a good game against us a couple of nights ago?

Bingo. Lol. TP for listing the reasons why we shouldn’t want Ross on the C’s.

[RodyTur10]

I wouldn't support any trade idea with the objective to get slightly better this year at the cost of (even small) assets.
What does a minor improvement for just this season do for us?

You might not have much faith in for example Langford or Nesmith, but just giving them away for bench role players without upside would be terrible asset management. Making such moves may eventually put us in a position where there's no way to add the necessary pieces to accommodate Tatum in building a contender.