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Re: Tatum is such a weak ass complainer
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2021, 11:33:32 PM »

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With his length, JT could have easily got more and 1 opportunities taking it to the basket.
If he got calls he might

Ime is going to handle it! ::)

Re: Tatum is such a weak ass complainer
« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2021, 11:33:47 PM »

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With his length, JT could have easily got more and 1 opportunities taking it to the basket.
If he got calls he might

When he complains a lot, he won’t.
That is not typically how it works. The guys who generate free throws tend to complain
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Re: Tatum is such a weak ass complainer
« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2021, 11:35:44 PM »

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With his length, JT could have easily got more and 1 opportunities taking it to the basket.
If he got calls he might

When he complains a lot, he won’t.
That is not typically how it works. The guys who generate free throws tend to complain

Problem is, JT avoids contact. Refs notice that too.

Re: Tatum is such a weak ass complainer
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2021, 11:41:52 PM »

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last year Tatum hit shots from 0-3 feet at 73.5%.  As a comparison, Brown has never been higher than 70.3% in any season in his career.  James Harden, regarded as one of the best scorers and finishers, has hit 70% just once in his career and he was still playing for the Thunder then.  Now 73.5% is Lebron's career average, but he didn't higher than than until his 7th year in the league. 

There are so many takes like this with Tatum that just aren't borne in reality.  Enjoy Tatum, players like him don't come around very often.
Yep, it's absurd. Firing off at the hip without even looking to see whether or not what was being said was accurate bothers me.

Cite your stats the truth is the guy misses a lot of gimmies at important times in the games. Roll out more stats that don’t impact winning.
If you don't think a guy that hits a higher percentage of shots at the rim then someone like James Harden doesn't impact winning, then I don't know what to tell you. 

Every single season of his career in the regular season (and the playoffs before Brooklyn), the team is SIGNIFICANTLY better when Tatum is on the floor then when he is on the bench.  Both in full games he misses and just within the games he plays.  Tatum's significance to winning basketball games for the Celtics is unmatched during his entire tenure.  There is no other player even close to Tatum's importance when it comes to winning.

So I'll say again.  Enjoy Tatum, players like him don't come around very often.
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Re: Tatum is such a weak ass complainer
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2021, 11:46:21 PM »

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last year Tatum hit shots from 0-3 feet at 73.5%.  As a comparison, Brown has never been higher than 70.3% in any season in his career.  James Harden, regarded as one of the best scorers and finishers, has hit 70% just once in his career and he was still playing for the Thunder then.  Now 73.5% is Lebron's career average, but he didn't higher than than until his 7th year in the league. 

There are so many takes like this with Tatum that just aren't borne in reality.  Enjoy Tatum, players like him don't come around very often.
Yep, it's absurd. Firing off at the hip without even looking to see whether or not what was being said was accurate bothers me.

Cite your stats the truth is the guy misses a lot of gimmies at important times in the games. Roll out more stats that don’t impact winning.
If you don't think a guy that hits a higher percentage of shots at the rim then someone like James Harden doesn't impact winning, then I don't know what to tell you. 

Every single season of his career in the regular season (and the playoffs before Brooklyn), the team is SIGNIFICANTLY better when Tatum is on the floor then when he is on the bench.  Both in full games he misses and just within the games he plays.  Tatum's significance to winning basketball games for the Celtics is unmatched during his entire tenure.  There is no other player even close to Tatum's importance when it comes to winning.

So I'll say again.  Enjoy Tatum, players like him don't come around very often.

Tatum does impact winning, of course he does. I did not mean to suggest he doesn’t. What I typed is those crucial plays that he misses at the rim do not impact winning in a positive way.

Re: Tatum is such a weak ass complainer
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2021, 11:55:42 PM »

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last year Tatum hit shots from 0-3 feet at 73.5%.  As a comparison, Brown has never been higher than 70.3% in any season in his career.  James Harden, regarded as one of the best scorers and finishers, has hit 70% just once in his career and he was still playing for the Thunder then.  Now 73.5% is Lebron's career average, but he didn't higher than than until his 7th year in the league. 

There are so many takes like this with Tatum that just aren't borne in reality.  Enjoy Tatum, players like him don't come around very often.
Yep, it's absurd. Firing off at the hip without even looking to see whether or not what was being said was accurate bothers me.

Cite your stats the truth is the guy misses a lot of gimmies at important times in the games. Roll out more stats that don’t impact winning.
If you don't think a guy that hits a higher percentage of shots at the rim then someone like James Harden doesn't impact winning, then I don't know what to tell you. 

Every single season of his career in the regular season (and the playoffs before Brooklyn), the team is SIGNIFICANTLY better when Tatum is on the floor then when he is on the bench.  Both in full games he misses and just within the games he plays.  Tatum's significance to winning basketball games for the Celtics is unmatched during his entire tenure.  There is no other player even close to Tatum's importance when it comes to winning.

So I'll say again.  Enjoy Tatum, players like him don't come around very often.

Tatum does impact winning, of course he does. I did not mean to suggest he doesn’t. What I typed is those crucial plays that he misses at the rim do not impact winning in a positive way.
Weird take. Missing close shots at the basket at crucial times affects winning in a negative way if taken by any player in the league, not just Tatum.

Do people think only Tatum misses crucial shots at the rim. Brown and Schroder both missed gimmes that cost the team the win against the Knicks, for example.

Re: Tatum is such a weak ass complainer
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2021, 01:29:57 AM »

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last year Tatum hit shots from 0-3 feet at 73.5%.  As a comparison, Brown has never been higher than 70.3% in any season in his career.  James Harden, regarded as one of the best scorers and finishers, has hit 70% just once in his career and he was still playing for the Thunder then.  Now 73.5% is Lebron's career average, but he didn't higher than than until his 7th year in the league. 

There are so many takes like this with Tatum that just aren't borne in reality.  Enjoy Tatum, players like him don't come around very often.
Yep, it's absurd. Firing off at the hip without even looking to see whether or not what was being said was accurate bothers me.

Cite your stats the truth is the guy misses a lot of gimmies at important times in the games. Roll out more stats that don’t impact winning.
If you don't think a guy that hits a higher percentage of shots at the rim then someone like James Harden doesn't impact winning, then I don't know what to tell you. 

Every single season of his career in the regular season (and the playoffs before Brooklyn), the team is SIGNIFICANTLY better when Tatum is on the floor then when he is on the bench.  Both in full games he misses and just within the games he plays.  Tatum's significance to winning basketball games for the Celtics is unmatched during his entire tenure.  There is no other player even close to Tatum's importance when it comes to winning.

So I'll say again.  Enjoy Tatum, players like him don't come around very often.

Tatum does impact winning, of course he does. I did not mean to suggest he doesn’t. What I typed is those crucial plays that he misses at the rim do not impact winning in a positive way.
Weird take. Missing close shots at the basket at crucial times affects winning in a negative way if taken by any player in the league, not just Tatum.

Do people think only Tatum misses crucial shots at the rim. Brown and Schroder both missed gimmes that cost the team the win against the Knicks, for example.

If anything, Tatum started hitting towards the end.

Re: Tatum is such a weak ass complainer
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2021, 04:33:16 AM »

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last year Tatum hit shots from 0-3 feet at 73.5%.  As a comparison, Brown has never been higher than 70.3% in any season in his career.  James Harden, regarded as one of the best scorers and finishers, has hit 70% just once in his career and he was still playing for the Thunder then.  Now 73.5% is Lebron's career average, but he didn't higher than than until his 7th year in the league. 

There are so many takes like this with Tatum that just aren't borne in reality.  Enjoy Tatum, players like him don't come around very often.
Yep, it's absurd. Firing off at the hip without even looking to see whether or not what was being said was accurate bothers me.

Cite your stats the truth is the guy misses a lot of gimmies at important times in the games. Roll out more stats that don’t impact winning.
If you don't think a guy that hits a higher percentage of shots at the rim then someone like James Harden doesn't impact winning, then I don't know what to tell you. 

Every single season of his career in the regular season (and the playoffs before Brooklyn), the team is SIGNIFICANTLY better when Tatum is on the floor then when he is on the bench.  Both in full games he misses and just within the games he plays.  Tatum's significance to winning basketball games for the Celtics is unmatched during his entire tenure.  There is no other player even close to Tatum's importance when it comes to winning.

So I'll say again.  Enjoy Tatum, players like him don't come around very often.

Tatum does impact winning, of course he does. I did not mean to suggest he doesn’t. What I typed is those crucial plays that he misses at the rim do not impact winning in a positive way.
Weird take. Missing close shots at the basket at crucial times affects winning in a negative way if taken by any player in the league, not just Tatum.

Do people think only Tatum misses crucial shots at the rim. Brown and Schroder both missed gimmes that cost the team the win against the Knicks, for example.

weird take by you since you basically echoed my take. I posted that the misses at the rim do not impact winning in a positive way. You typed that the misses impact winning in a negative way.  Same difference.

Re: Tatum is such a weak ass complainer
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2021, 05:29:59 AM »

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It turns out that basketball is a game determined by which team can put the ball in the basket more often. Who knew?

It's five games. Calm down everyone.
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2021, 06:03:54 AM »

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If he hits 70+% at the rim, that's good.  But I agree that he is still skittish when he thinks he might get bumped, and while the weight he has gradually put on has helped, it didn't totally fix the problem. 

The complaining bothers me a lot too because a lot of times he doesn't do it when he thinks he was fouled, he does it to make an excuse for a missed shot.  These are the times it bothers me.  This is clearly what happened last night.  There is no way he thought he was fouled.

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« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2021, 06:37:43 AM »

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I love Tatum, it is clear the refs do not.   He is whiny guy.  I think this behavior does not endear him with the refs.

I just wish he would take the easy shot.   I mean how many layups does a guy have to miss due to over complicating and adding additional and unnecessary movement to his shot.  Quit show boating and put the ball in the hole.   People would rather see a made shot than a fancy missed one!

Re: Tatum is such a weak ass complainer
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2021, 06:50:17 AM »

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last year Tatum hit shots from 0-3 feet at 73.5%.  As a comparison, Brown has never been higher than 70.3% in any season in his career.  James Harden, regarded as one of the best scorers and finishers, has hit 70% just once in his career and he was still playing for the Thunder then.  Now 73.5% is Lebron's career average, but he didn't higher than than until his 7th year in the league. 

There are so many takes like this with Tatum that just aren't borne in reality.  Enjoy Tatum, players like him don't come around very often.
Yep, it's absurd. Firing off at the hip without even looking to see whether or not what was being said was accurate bothers me.

Cite your stats the truth is the guy misses a lot of gimmies at important times in the games. Roll out more stats that don’t impact winning.
If you don't think a guy that hits a higher percentage of shots at the rim then someone like James Harden doesn't impact winning, then I don't know what to tell you. 

Every single season of his career in the regular season (and the playoffs before Brooklyn), the team is SIGNIFICANTLY better when Tatum is on the floor then when he is on the bench.  Both in full games he misses and just within the games he plays.  Tatum's significance to winning basketball games for the Celtics is unmatched during his entire tenure.  There is no other player even close to Tatum's importance when it comes to winning.

So I'll say again.  Enjoy Tatum, players like him don't come around very often.

Tatum does impact winning, of course he does. I did not mean to suggest he doesn’t. What I typed is those crucial plays that he misses at the rim do not impact winning in a positive way.
Weird take. Missing close shots at the basket at crucial times affects winning in a negative way if taken by any player in the league, not just Tatum.

Do people think only Tatum misses crucial shots at the rim. Brown and Schroder both missed gimmes that cost the team the win against the Knicks, for example.

weird take by you since you basically echoed my take. I posted that the misses at the rim do not impact winning in a positive way. You typed that the misses impact winning in a negative way.  Same difference.
Clearly you missed the point and concentrated on the rewording.

The point is anyone who misses those shots hurts the team's chances of winning, not just Tatum. That's why it a weird point to act like it's just a Tatum thing.

Oops, reworded it again. You're probably going to miss the point....again.

Re: Tatum is such a weak ass complainer
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2021, 07:03:24 AM »

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Saw an interesting line about Tatum that I think may have hit it on the head regarding how Tatum plays:

Tatum has a lot of Kobe in him without having enough of Kobe in him.

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Saw an interesting line about Tatum that I think may have hit it on the head regarding how Tatum plays:

Tatum has a lot of Kobe in him without having enough of Kobe in him.

Not enough Kobe is better than too much Kobe.


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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2021, 08:20:14 AM »

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Saw an interesting line about Tatum that I think may have hit it on the head regarding how Tatum plays:

Tatum has a lot of Kobe in him without having enough of Kobe in him.

Not enough Kobe is better than too much Kobe.
Yeah.  Kobe is super overrated historically as he just wasn't very efficient even at his peak and his defense was always overrated.  Kobe is clearly a HOF player, but people consistently put him in the top 10 all time, which is just crazy. 

I'd much rather have Tatum shoot 3's at the rate he does, then shoot them at the rate Kobe did and get to the line more.  Tatum is at his best when he is shooting and hitting his 3's.  That is his game.  That is what he needs to do.
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