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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1965 on: February 27, 2022, 01:02:33 PM »

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With the way things are potentially shaping up, are you better off as a 3 or even 4 seed than a 2 seed in the East?


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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1966 on: February 27, 2022, 01:24:40 PM »

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People have treated the 76ers as a looming boogeyman for about 8 years now? They have never even made an ecf. Maybe this is finally the year they make an ecf but this team has a ton less talent than the butler, simmons, Harris, reddick Embid team.
Then v now:
Simmons <<< Harden
Redick = Maxey
Butler >>> Thybulle
Harris = Harris
Embiid < Embiid (significant growth)

Is that a ton less talent?
The initial thought is that they lost a top 15 player in Butler which is huge.  But you are so right about Embiid.  Embiid is not the same player.  The Embiid of a few years ago was just as talented as he is now but he didn't scare me.  If he happened to stay healthy, he generally lacked the conditioning to carry the team for more than a couple great quarters.  The Embiid we see now is an absolute monster.  He does so many things we have never seen someone his size do, and he's in much better shape to do those things throughout an entire game.  If we ignore career accomplishments, a case can easily be made that Embiid is the best center ever based on his play this year.  He seems like he is ready to carry the team further this year.
Wow, high praise given that he's not even the best center this season. Jokic for MVP, better 3-pt shooter and much better passer.
Jokic is a slightly better 3pt shooter over their careers but the past two seasons they been basically the same.  While Jokic is obviously the better passer, Embiid is a good passer.  Embiid is a better defender than Jokic.  Embiid is also a better post player.  Jokic obviously has the health advantage.  While stats may lean towards Jokic slightly, I think Embiid is the better overall player. 

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1967 on: February 27, 2022, 01:25:12 PM »

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Simmons is going to have 10 games or so to get acclimated, then he's going to face the playoffs. Because they have so many losses, they are going to be tested in the first round. It will be interesting to watch whether he can handle the pressure, and whether KD and Kyrie will show him any real trust. I could see it going OK, or I could see it creating some serious problems with team dynamics.

Teams are going to force him to stand up and make pressure plays. To make foul shots. It doesn't sound like he's been putting in the work.

A lot depends on what Simmons expectations are. Is he really going to be OK being a role player, and possibly not even playing in crunch time?

The next two games are really important for the Nets.  Both against Toronto, and Kyrie won’t be available for either.  Lose both and they’ll fall 3 back of Toronto, and with only 19 game left after that, it will be hard to get from 8th to 7th.  That would mean Toronto hosts a play-in game, and as it currently stands, Kyrie can’t even enter Canada without quarantining for two weeks, so they’d be at a major disadvantage in the 8-7 matchup.

Split and they’re one back still, but hold the tiebreaker.  Win both and they’re functionally two up, since they’d have the tiebreaker over Toronto.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1968 on: February 27, 2022, 01:27:29 PM »

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With the way things are potentially shaping up, are you better off as a 3 or even 4 seed than a 2 seed in the East?
It really depends on where everyone else ends up on where you want to be.  You most certainly don't want to face Brooklyn in the 1st round followed in the next 2 by Milwaukee and Philadelphia, which may very well be the 1 seed or the 2 seed right now (depending on the play-in games).
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« Reply #1969 on: February 27, 2022, 01:30:17 PM »

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With the way things are potentially shaping up, are you better off as a 3 or even 4 seed than a 2 seed in the East?

I think the East playoffs this year matter on matchups more than the relative quality of an opponent.  Also, its far from a given Brooklyn will win at Toronto in a play-in game, which means Brooklyn might be an 8-seed, but one coming off of two extra games.

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« Reply #1970 on: February 27, 2022, 01:36:23 PM »

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Simmons is going to have 10 games or so to get acclimated, then he's going to face the playoffs. Because they have so many losses, they are going to be tested in the first round. It will be interesting to watch whether he can handle the pressure, and whether KD and Kyrie will show him any real trust. I could see it going OK, or I could see it creating some serious problems with team dynamics.

Teams are going to force him to stand up and make pressure plays. To make foul shots. It doesn't sound like he's been putting in the work.

A lot depends on what Simmons expectations are. Is he really going to be OK being a role player, and possibly not even playing in crunch time?
I don't recall Simmons playing well in the playoffs.  Maybe in the 1st round against a weaker opponent but when the going got tough he didn't get going.  That being said the Nets just need him to be the glorified, overpaid role player that he actually is.  Given his personality and mentality I expect he'd be fine with that but sitting him in crunch time would probably a different story.   

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« Reply #1971 on: February 27, 2022, 02:21:24 PM »

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The Harden-Embiid duo is just lethal.

I think there's a really good chance the Sixers finish #2 and they could definitely even nab #1.

My guess as of today (2/27):

1. Miami
2. Philadelphia
3. Milwaukee
4. Boston
5. Cleveland
6. Chicago
7. Brooklyn
8. Toronto
9. Atlanta
10. Charlotte

Yes, call it a hot take. I think Chicago is the team that really slips. Their remaining schedule is pretty tough and I read somewhere they are something like 2-11 against teams above .600. Love DeRozan and that team but they are pretenders IMO. That's my bold prediction basically, I think Chicago will fall in the standings while the others including Boston end up overtaking them.

Either way I do think 3-6 in the East will change a lot in the next month every day as it'll be close
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« Reply #1972 on: February 27, 2022, 02:25:08 PM »

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The Harden-Embiid duo is just lethal.

I think there's a really good chance the Sixers finish #2 and they could definitely even nab #1.

My guess as of today (2/27):

1. Miami
2. Philadelphia
3. Milwaukee
4. Boston
5. Cleveland
6. Chicago
7. Brooklyn
8. Toronto
9. Atlanta
10. Charlotte

Yes, call it a hot take. I think Chicago is the team that really slips. Their remaining schedule is pretty tough and I read somewhere they are something like 2-11 against teams above .600. Love DeRozan and that team but they are pretenders IMO. That's my bold prediction basically, I think Chicago will fall in the standings while the others including Boston end up overtaking them.

Either way I do think 3-6 in the East will change a lot in the next month every day as it'll be close

They’ve got the Cavs, Heat, and Bulls over 4 days next weekend.  That will be a better test for them than the Knicks.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #1973 on: February 27, 2022, 02:29:09 PM »

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The Harden-Embiid duo is just lethal.

I think there's a really good chance the Sixers finish #2 and they could definitely even nab #1.

My guess as of today (2/27):

1. Miami
2. Philadelphia
3. Milwaukee
4. Boston
5. Cleveland
6. Chicago
7. Brooklyn
8. Toronto
9. Atlanta
10. Charlotte

Yes, call it a hot take. I think Chicago is the team that really slips. Their remaining schedule is pretty tough and I read somewhere they are something like 2-11 against teams above .600. Love DeRozan and that team but they are pretenders IMO. That's my bold prediction basically, I think Chicago will fall in the standings while the others including Boston end up overtaking them.

Either way I do think 3-6 in the East will change a lot in the next month every day as it'll be close

They’ve got the Cavs, Heat, and Bulls over 4 days next weekend.  That will be a better test for them than the Knicks.

Yeah probably. Also on another note, 3 of Chicago's next 4 games are against PHI, MIL and MIA. I do think the C's have a chance to make a climb so long as they take care of their own business going forward. Some of the top teams in the East (Sixers, Bulls, etc.) have tough schedules to close out.
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« Reply #1974 on: February 27, 2022, 02:37:02 PM »

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The Harden-Embiid duo is just lethal.

I think there's a really good chance the Sixers finish #2 and they could definitely even nab #1.

My guess as of today (2/27):

1. Miami
2. Philadelphia
3. Milwaukee
4. Boston
5. Cleveland
6. Chicago
7. Brooklyn
8. Toronto
9. Atlanta
10. Charlotte

Yes, call it a hot take. I think Chicago is the team that really slips. Their remaining schedule is pretty tough and I read somewhere they are something like 2-11 against teams above .600. Love DeRozan and that team but they are pretenders IMO. That's my bold prediction basically, I think Chicago will fall in the standings while the others including Boston end up overtaking them.

Either way I do think 3-6 in the East will change a lot in the next month every day as it'll be close

They’ve got the Cavs, Heat, and Bulls over 4 days next weekend.  That will be a better test for them than the Knicks.

Yeah probably. Also on another note, 3 of Chicago's next 4 games are against PHI, MIL and MIA. I do think the C's have a chance to make a climb so long as they take care of their own business going forward. Some of the top teams in the East (Sixers, Bulls, etc.) have tough schedules to close out.

If us and Cleveland end up in the 4/5 spots that's a good matchup for us regardless of who ends up with home court. The other possibilities (Bulls, Bucks, Sixers, or Nets) would be really tough 1st round opponents. Especially for a Celtics team trying to find its footing this year under a new coach.

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« Reply #1975 on: February 27, 2022, 03:06:36 PM »

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Who can Harden guard?

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« Reply #1976 on: February 27, 2022, 03:09:59 PM »

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21 free throws for Embiid through three quarters seems excessive.

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« Reply #1977 on: February 27, 2022, 03:16:29 PM »

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Who can Harden guard?

Can’t guard, Barrett. That’s for [dang] sure.
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« Reply #1978 on: February 27, 2022, 03:30:06 PM »

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Who can Harden guard?

Can’t guard, Barrett. That’s for [dang] sure.

Can't guard Tatum, Brown, or even Smart.

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« Reply #1979 on: February 27, 2022, 03:31:08 PM »

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37 free throws for Embiid/Harden combined... ICK