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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3210 on: April 10, 2022, 03:36:15 PM »

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I think Mil will lose and Philly will win. So we either get 2 or 4. Tough decisions for Ime and Brad.

Looks like we are fully healthy with only TL out. I guess it's checkmate for MIL.

And for those saying 'Bring on BKN'. It should be noted that after today they will be 36-19 with Durant, a better winning % than we have on the season. That is not even taking into account all the Kyrie home games missed or the fact that we will be without Rob. I get it - beat the best to be a champion and all that - but we are really putting ourselves in a tough spot with a W today.

Sure, but the Celtics with the starting lineup of Tatum, Brown, Smart, Horford, and one of Rob or Theis are 30-7, and has one of the most dominant net ratings since they started tracking that stat.  Meanwhile, KD has had to play nearly 40 minutes a night since his return from injury just to get the Nets to the position where they are.  The Nets are better than the Bulls right now, but the Celtics are in a different class from the Nets, KD or otherwise.

I don't necessarily think we'll lose, but it's hard to argue that playing the Nets is easier than playing the Bulls. MIL knows what they are doing here - it's a losers mentality - but they know what they're doing. Credit to them for being so blatant about it. As you mentioned in the other thread, it sure would be swell if CLE could knock off BKN in the play-in.
I don't think Milwaukee is tanking, this after all the same team that went for the harder first round match-up last year to prove a point (and that also led to a harder 2nd round match-up).  Milwaukee isn't scared of anyone and they aren't tanking, I'm guessing they feel their starters just need some extra rest.

This is obviously about seeding.  They’re about to get a week of rest.  They prefer Chicago over Brooklyn, because the team isn’t run by morons.

Do you think the C’s are being moronic playing the starters in todays game?

To some extent.  Toronto isn’t as easy a matchup as Chicago, but it’s still better than Brooklyn.

Maybe they think they can take BKN as is and then there's a good chance they end up with HCA for the next 2 series.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3211 on: April 10, 2022, 03:36:44 PM »

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If your the Nets, who would you prefer to face in round 1? Boston, Milwaukee, or Miami? If it were me, I'd want Miami out of those three.
I'd want Miami too. I like their main 5 guys but I am not convinced by their bench. I believe that bench holds them back and keeps behind the other top teams in the East.
Yes but in order to face Miami they'd have to lose their 1st play-in game which would make their second play-in game a must win.  Anything can happen in one game especially with the Nets not being a good defensive team. 

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3212 on: April 10, 2022, 03:45:30 PM »

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Bucks already down 10-0 ugh
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3213 on: April 10, 2022, 03:46:00 PM »

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I'm not sure about the tie breaker, but is it possible the Nets could end up the #9 seed if they lose today and the Cavs, Hornets and Hawks win?

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3214 on: April 10, 2022, 03:46:32 PM »

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Bucks already down 10-0 ugh

That starting lineup is a joke.


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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3215 on: April 10, 2022, 03:48:25 PM »

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I'm not sure about the tie breaker, but is it possible the Nets could end up the #9 seed if they lose today and the Cavs, Hornets and Hawks win?

Yep
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3216 on: April 10, 2022, 03:49:40 PM »

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I'm not sure about the tie breaker, but is it possible the Nets could end up the #9 seed if they lose today and the Cavs, Hornets and Hawks win?

My head is spinning.

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If the Nets lose and the Cavs win, the Cavs slip by them and win the 7-seed. The Cavs face the (likely resting) Bucks Sunday.

If both the Nets and Cavs win, it stays the same as it is currently with the Nets in the 7-spot and the Cavs in 8th, visiting the Nets on Tuesday for the play-in game for the 7-seed.

Let’s go through the aftermath of both of those outcomes.

If the Nets win and the Cavs lose:

The Hawks and Hornets have tiebreaker over the Cavs. The Hornets have tiebreaker over the Hawks.

So if the Cavs lose and the Hawks and Hornets both tie them, it goes to cumulative record between the two. The Hornets take that (despite the Hawks having tiebreaker over the Hornets directly) and move into the 8th spot to face Brooklyn, the Hawks would be 9th, and the Cavs slide all the way to 10th.

Hornets
Hawks
Cavs
If the Cavs lose and the Hawks win and the Hornets lose:

Hawks
Cavs
Hornets
If the Cavs lose and the Hawks lose and the Hornets win:

Hornets
Cavs
Hawks
Now, if the Cavs win and the Nets lose, putting the Cavs in 7th and dropping the Nets into tiebreaker, it all gets switched up.

If the Nets lose and the Hawks and Hornets both win, it’s a three-way tie. The Hornets are 4-3 vs. those teams, the Nets 4-4 and the Hawks 3-4. So…

Hornets
Nets
Hawks
If the Nets lose, and the Hawks win, and the Hornets lose, the Nets have tiebreaker over the Hawks, so…

Nets
Hawks
Hornets
If the Nets lose and the Hawks lose and the Hornets win, the Hornets hold the tiebreaker over the Nets:

Hornets
Nets
Hawks.
If the Nets and Cavs both lose, and the Hawks and Hornets both win, we’ve got a four-way tie! Here’s how that shakes out by cumulative record betwixt the teams:

Nets 6-4
Hawks 6-5
Hornets 6-5
Cavs 4-8

So the Nets get 7, the Cavs get 10th, and the Hawks’ head-to-head tiebreaker over the Hornets gets them 9th.

Nets
Hawks
Hornets
Cavs
If the Nets and Cavs lose, and the Hawks win, and the Hornets lose:

Nets
Hawks
Cavs
Hornets
If the Nets and Cavs lose, and the Hawks lose, and the Hornets win:

Hornets
Nets
Cavs
Hawks
Finally, if the Cavs and Nets win (with the Nets 7 and the Cavs 8), and the Hawks and Hornets both win:

Nets
Cavs
Hawks
Hornets.


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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3217 on: April 10, 2022, 03:54:14 PM »

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I'm not sure about the tie breaker, but is it possible the Nets could end up the #9 seed if they lose today and the Cavs, Hornets and Hawks win?

My head is spinning.

Quote
If the Nets lose and the Cavs win, the Cavs slip by them and win the 7-seed. The Cavs face the (likely resting) Bucks Sunday.

If both the Nets and Cavs win, it stays the same as it is currently with the Nets in the 7-spot and the Cavs in 8th, visiting the Nets on Tuesday for the play-in game for the 7-seed.

Let’s go through the aftermath of both of those outcomes.

If the Nets win and the Cavs lose:

The Hawks and Hornets have tiebreaker over the Cavs. The Hornets have tiebreaker over the Hawks.

So if the Cavs lose and the Hawks and Hornets both tie them, it goes to cumulative record between the two. The Hornets take that (despite the Hawks having tiebreaker over the Hornets directly) and move into the 8th spot to face Brooklyn, the Hawks would be 9th, and the Cavs slide all the way to 10th.

Hornets
Hawks
Cavs
If the Cavs lose and the Hawks win and the Hornets lose:

Hawks
Cavs
Hornets
If the Cavs lose and the Hawks lose and the Hornets win:

Hornets
Cavs
Hawks
Now, if the Cavs win and the Nets lose, putting the Cavs in 7th and dropping the Nets into tiebreaker, it all gets switched up.

If the Nets lose and the Hawks and Hornets both win, it’s a three-way tie. The Hornets are 4-3 vs. those teams, the Nets 4-4 and the Hawks 3-4. So…

Hornets
Nets
Hawks
If the Nets lose, and the Hawks win, and the Hornets lose, the Nets have tiebreaker over the Hawks, so…

Nets
Hawks
Hornets
If the Nets lose and the Hawks lose and the Hornets win, the Hornets hold the tiebreaker over the Nets:

Hornets
Nets
Hawks.
If the Nets and Cavs both lose, and the Hawks and Hornets both win, we’ve got a four-way tie! Here’s how that shakes out by cumulative record betwixt the teams:

Nets 6-4
Hawks 6-5
Hornets 6-5
Cavs 4-8

So the Nets get 7, the Cavs get 10th, and the Hawks’ head-to-head tiebreaker over the Hornets gets them 9th.

Nets
Hawks
Hornets
Cavs
If the Nets and Cavs lose, and the Hawks win, and the Hornets lose:

Nets
Hawks
Cavs
Hornets
If the Nets and Cavs lose, and the Hawks lose, and the Hornets win:

Hornets
Nets
Cavs
Hawks
Finally, if the Cavs and Nets win (with the Nets 7 and the Cavs 8), and the Hawks and Hornets both win:

Nets
Cavs
Hawks
Hornets.

Wow, yeah. TP for the info!

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3218 on: April 10, 2022, 03:59:11 PM »

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Yeah the Bucks really aren’t trying. Hope DET wins otherwise Boston is getting 2 or 4.
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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3219 on: April 10, 2022, 04:00:02 PM »

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40-18 Cavs lead in 1Q lol. Forget about the 3rd seed


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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3220 on: April 10, 2022, 04:01:08 PM »

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FWIW,

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Simmons and the Nets have been managing his back issue and have been on same page, and should he continue clearing ramp-up hurdles, he will be able to return — yes, in the playoffs.
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Sources: There’a optimism Nets star Ben Simmons could make debut during first round of the NBA playoffs as long as his progression continues in strengthening his legs and back. Simmons has been ramping up his workload and is expected to continue doing so.

Could be bad for the Celtics if they match up in the first-round...getting Simmons back who is the third of their Big 3...ugh.


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Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3221 on: April 10, 2022, 04:18:25 PM »

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I'm not sure about the tie breaker, but is it possible the Nets could end up the #9 seed if they lose today and the Cavs, Hornets and Hawks win?

Yep

Well Clev, Charlotte and ATL look like they are holding up their part of the plan.
Just got to get INDY to somehow pull the big unlikely upset.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3222 on: April 10, 2022, 04:25:22 PM »

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FWIW,

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Shams Charania
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Simmons and the Nets have been managing his back issue and have been on same page, and should he continue clearing ramp-up hurdles, he will be able to return — yes, in the playoffs.
Quote Tweet
Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
 · 13m
Sources: There’a optimism Nets star Ben Simmons could make debut during first round of the NBA playoffs as long as his progression continues in strengthening his legs and back. Simmons has been ramping up his workload and is expected to continue doing so.

Could be bad for the Celtics if they match up in the first-round...getting Simmons back who is the third of their Big 3...ugh.

As much as I'd like to have the 2 seed (and home court for a matchup with the bucks), I'd really love to see Simmons make his return in Philly. If he thought returning to sit on the bench was bad...
I'm bitter.

Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3223 on: April 10, 2022, 04:28:35 PM »

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I'm not sure about the tie breaker, but is it possible the Nets could end up the #9 seed if they lose today and the Cavs, Hornets and Hawks win?

Yep

Well Clev, Charlotte and ATL look like they are holding up their part of the plan.
Just got to get INDY to somehow pull the big unlikely upset.

Nah, let Indy lose. It’ll be that much more embarrassing when Brooklyn loses to Cleveland.

Seriously, if I’m Brooklyn, I’m feeling awesome going into the playoffs, watching how hard team(s) are working to avoid them.


Re: NBA Season 2021-22
« Reply #3224 on: April 10, 2022, 04:36:08 PM »

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Bring on the Nets. We're gonna wipe the floor with them. The Bucks are also going to wish they had home court when they face us.