Summer 2021 Fantasy Draft: Draft Thread

[nickagneta]

Some players, no matter there quality, have never rated well in these games and having one on your team is usually a sign you won't stand a chance of winning. Iverson was one. Monte Ellis another. Kobe another prime example. I have two such players currently on my team. I think Kyrie and Kemba have probably entered that group of players, which is too bad for Kemba because I really liked him as a Celtic, as a player, as a leader and as a person.

Who is your second?  Westbrook, for sure.  I know that Lebron hung at least one CrotoNat championship banner, though.  So did Kyrie. 

I think your team is going to be just fine.  I don't love Westbrook as a pick -- I think he takes away as much as he brings -- but the rest of your team is very well-constructed and fits together so well that Westbrook shouldn't drag your team down at all.

Kyrie...   He's got some negatives.  A bad reputation with teammates and coaches.  He's flaky.  He's a beta.  He's injury prone.  He plays terrible defense.  He might quit on your team.  But, when he's on, he's an offensive savant who can carry a team for weeks at a time.  How do you assess for that in a draft like that?  It's hard to say, but if a team has a strong culture, it probably helps.

Kemba, what can you say?   He's good (not great) offensively, and bad defensively.  Most importantly, though, he just can't be relied upon.  If Kemba plays 75+ games next season, he'll gain a lot of his value back.

My observation is based more on perception of these players on this blog and the distaste that exists now and existed then for players. It's not based on the quality of that player. That many of these players were hated rivals contributes to this dynamic, for sure.

[gouki88]

Some players, no matter there quality, have never rated well in these games and having one on your team is usually a sign you won't stand a chance of winning. Iverson was one. Monte Ellis another. Kobe another prime example. I have two such players currently on my team. I think Kyrie and Kemba have probably entered that group of players, which is too bad for Kemba because I really liked him as a Celtic, as a player, as a leader and as a person.

Who is your second?  Westbrook, for sure.  I know that Lebron hung at least one CrotoNat championship banner, though.  So did Kyrie. 

I think your team is going to be just fine.  I don't love Westbrook as a pick -- I think he takes away as much as he brings -- but the rest of your team is very well-constructed and fits together so well that Westbrook shouldn't drag your team down at all.

Kyrie...   He's got some negatives.  A bad reputation with teammates and coaches.  He's flaky.  He's a beta.  He's injury prone.  He plays terrible defense.  He might quit on your team.  But, when he's on, he's an offensive savant who can carry a team for weeks at a time.  How do you assess for that in a draft like that?  It's hard to say, but if a team has a strong culture, it probably helps.

Kemba, what can you say?   He's good (not great) offensively, and bad defensively.  Most importantly, though, he just can't be relied upon.  If Kemba plays 75+ games next season, he'll gain a lot of his value back.

My observation is based more on perception of these players on this blog and the distaste that exists now and existed then for players. It's not based on the quality of that player. That many of these players were hated rivals contributes to this dynamic, for sure.

Prior to the playoff run I would have thought Trae Young would fit into this category. But he redeemed himself to quite a few. Still a bad defender, but an elite playmaker who fought through injury and led his team to two series upsets. Funny how quick perceptions can change

[RJ87]

Some players, no matter there quality, have never rated well in these games and having one on your team is usually a sign you won't stand a chance of winning. Iverson was one. Monte Ellis another. Kobe another prime example. I have two such players currently on my team. I think Kyrie and Kemba have probably entered that group of players, which is too bad for Kemba because I really liked him as a Celtic, as a player, as a leader and as a person.

Taking shots at my player, huh?

Say what you want about Kyrie, and I know there's a distaste for him around here, but he's offensively gifted. He had a 50/40/90 season last year and he's flirted with that level of efficiency several times in his career.

[Roy H.]

I just saw this list  of the top 30 (non-injured) NBA players from nba.com Canada:

https://ca.nba.com/news/nba-75-who-are-the-best-players-entering-the-2021-22-season-ranking-the-30-best-players/1xwb1g6hzqp191oqnubjv1l5e7

Everybody has been picked, so it is safe to post.

Of note for this conversation:  Kyrie #16, Trae Young #17, and Westbrook #27.

[nickagneta]

Some players, no matter there quality, have never rated well in these games and having one on your team is usually a sign you won't stand a chance of winning. Iverson was one. Monte Ellis another. Kobe another prime example. I have two such players currently on my team. I think Kyrie and Kemba have probably entered that group of players, which is too bad for Kemba because I really liked him as a Celtic, as a player, as a leader and as a person.

Taking shots at my player, huh?

Say what you want about Kyrie, and I know there's a distaste for him around here, but he's offensively gifted. He had a 50/40/90 season last year and he's flirted with that level of efficiency several times in his career.

I wasn't taking a shot at Kyrie. I was just stating that the general consensus on him on this site is that most hate the guy, regardless of how good he is. For all his flakiness and deciding to bail in a bunch of games because ......whatever....he was brilliant on the court last year. 26/6/5 with 50/40/92 shooting splits and a TS% of 61% is not something you see very often in the NBA.

[gouki88]

Some players, no matter there quality, have never rated well in these games and having one on your team is usually a sign you won't stand a chance of winning. Iverson was one. Monte Ellis another. Kobe another prime example. I have two such players currently on my team. I think Kyrie and Kemba have probably entered that group of players, which is too bad for Kemba because I really liked him as a Celtic, as a player, as a leader and as a person.

Taking shots at my player, huh?

Say what you want about Kyrie, and I know there's a distaste for him around here, but he's offensively gifted. He had a 50/40/90 season last year and he's flirted with that level of efficiency several times in his career.

I wasn't taking a shot at Kyrie. I was just stating that the general consensus on him on this site is that most hate the guy, regardless of how good he is. For all his flakiness and deciding to bail in a bunch of games because ......whatever....he was brilliant on the court last year. 26/6/5 with 50/40/92 shooting splits and a TS% of 61% is not something you see very often in the NBA.

When Kyrie was on the floor last season he was playing quite breathtaking basketball. Which I think only further embittered Cs fans

[gouki88]

TRADE:

Minnesota receives: 10.11, 11.2

Milwaukee receives: 10.5, 13.8

[tazzmaniac]

My internet has been terrible today so while I've got it I'm going to make my selection. 

With the 1st pick of the 10th round, the Memphis Grizzlies select Miles Bridges. 

[gouki88]

I've got both wdleehi's and Somebody's picks, just going to make myself a quick coffee before announcing them

[Roy H.]

My internet has been terrible today so while I've got it I'm going to make my selection. 

With the 1st pick of the 10th round, the Memphis Grizzlies select Miles Bridges.

If acquiring all of the Bridges similar to owning all of the railroads in Monopoly?

[gouki88]

With the 2nd pick of the 10th round, the Indiana Pacers select...



Goran Dragic!

[gouki88]

With the 3rd pick of the 10th round, the OKC Thunder select ...



D'Angelo Russell!

[gouki88]

D'Angelo Russell and Russell Westbrook to me were two of the biggest fallers in this draft. Both have been All-Stars very recently.

I stayed away from D-Loading because of his awful N:OW tattoo more than anything

But I like the picks so far this round. All solid players

[RPGenerate]

With the 4th pick of the 10th round, the Toronto Raptors select...



TJ Warren!!!

[gouki88]

With the 4th pick of the 10th round, the Toronto Raptors select...



TJ Warren!!!

I think you mean Bubble Michael Jordan