NBA trade rumors/FA signings 2021

[Roy H.]

Hernangomez was rising prospect with Nuggets a few seasons ago. Just didn’t pan out. Good size.

Supposedly was who we wanted in the 2016 draft at #16, but he went a pick earlier and we wound up with Yabusele, at least per my recollection of an interview Tim Connelly from years ago.

I thought that was Papagiannis?

[gouki88]

Fwiw, here are some free agents that are still available. The ones in red are restricted.

PG: Isaiah Thomas, Mike James, Frank Ntilikina, Dante Exum, Dennis Smith Jr, Jeff Teague, Brad Wanamaker
SG: Josh Hart, JJ Redick, Wes Matthews, Avery Bradley, Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk
SF: Hamidou Diallo, James Ennis, Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot
PF: Lauri Markkanen, Paul Millsap, Jarred Vanderbilt
C: Boogie Cousins, Bismack Biyombo, Isaiah Hartenstein

Don't think we'll sign any of them. We already have 15 guaranteed contracts, plus Jabari on a team option. That said, I'd love us to somehow sign Millsap. Highly doubt he's willing to sign for the minimum otherwise he would have already joined a contender.

I would happily bring in Millsap and Avery Bradley. Cut Parker in that instance, and dump Dunn + Fernando for something. Roster of:

Schroder - Prtichard - Edwards
Smart - Richardson - Bradley
Brown - Nesmith - Langford
Tatum - Millsap - Grant W - Hauser [2-way]
Horford - Rob W - Kanter

Can you explain your thought process on wanting Avery Bradley? Why would we want any guard that isn't good enough to be a longer term starter?

Not everyone has to be a starter? I would infinitely prefer Avery Bradley on a minimum contract to Kris Dunn earning $5m a year

[Roy H.]

The Los Angeles Lakers are actively surveying the landscape to eventually fill out the roster with more depth, and have done so in recently working out Isaiah Thomas, Darren Collison and Mike James, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

A signing is not imminent, sources said. The Lakers could also elect to bring players into training camp to fight for the last few roster spots.

I think Collison missed his chance for a comeback.  I’ve always liked him though.

[gouki88]

The Los Angeles Lakers are actively surveying the landscape to eventually fill out the roster with more depth, and have done so in recently working out Isaiah Thomas, Darren Collison and Mike James, league sources told Yahoo Sports.

A signing is not imminent, sources said. The Lakers could also elect to bring players into training camp to fight for the last few roster spots.

I think Collison missed his chance for a comeback.  I’ve always liked him though.

If I were LA I'd go for Collison. He's turning 34 in a few days, but his most recent level of play is way above the other two

[Celtics2021]

Hernangomez was rising prospect with Nuggets a few seasons ago. Just didn’t pan out. Good size.

Supposedly was who we wanted in the 2016 draft at #16, but he went a pick earlier and we wound up with Yabusele, at least per my recollection of an interview Tim Connelly from years ago.

I thought that was Papagiannis?

Maybe Ainge also liked Papagiannis, but I distinctly remember Tim Connelly (Nuggets GM) boasting about getting Hernangomez in the draft one spot ahead of the Celtics.

[Vermont Green]

The Kings officially announced Friday they have signed Len to a free agent contract, finalizing an agreement they reached earlier in the week. Terms of the deal were not disclosed, but the 7-foot center signed a two-year, $7.65 million deal, sources told The Sacramento Bee.

Sacramento has compiled a fair amount of bigs:

Holmes
Thompson
Alex Len
Damien Jones

added to Bagley and Metu.  Plus they have Harrison Barnes who is a swing.

I wonder if all of this could make Bagley more available.  He would fit our TPE so that gives us some flexibility but it is not clear what they might want back for him.

[nickagneta]

The Kings officially announced Friday they have signed Len to a free agent contract, finalizing an agreement they reached earlier in the week. Terms of the deal were not disclosed, but the 7-foot center signed a two-year, $7.65 million deal, sources told The Sacramento Bee.

Sacramento has compiled a fair amount of bigs:

Holmes
Thompson
Alex Len
Damien Jones

added to Bagley and Metu.  Plus they have Harrison Barnes who is a swing.

I wonder if all of this could make Bagley more available.  He would fit our TPE so that gives us some flexibility but it is not clear what they might want back for him.

I don't see what others see in Marvin Bagley. Poor outside shooter. Terrible FT shooter. Inefficient scorer. Bad defender. A 1:1.4 assist to turnover ratio. An average to good rebounder(I say average since he is 6'11".

If there's a PF from the Kings that I want in a trade it's Harrison Barnes. He, like Tatum, is the prototypical, new wave, stretch PF that can play good defense, be a decent rebounder but can shoot the ball and is a very efficient scorer.

I want no part of this generation's Sam Bowie

[sgrogan]

The Kings officially announced Friday they have signed Len to a free agent contract, finalizing an agreement they reached earlier in the week. Terms of the deal were not disclosed, but the 7-foot center signed a two-year, $7.65 million deal, sources told The Sacramento Bee.

Sacramento has compiled a fair amount of bigs:

Holmes
Thompson
Alex Len
Damien Jones

added to Bagley and Metu.  Plus they have Harrison Barnes who is a swing.

I wonder if all of this could make Bagley more available.  He would fit our TPE so that gives us some flexibility but it is not clear what they might want back for him.

I don't see what others see in Marvin Bagley. Poor outside shooter. Terrible FT shooter. Inefficient scorer. Bad defender. A 1:1.4 assist to turnover ratio. An average to good rebounder(I say average since he is 6'11".

If there's a PF from the Kings that I want in a trade it's Harrison Barnes. He, like Tatum, is the prototypical, new wave, stretch PF that can play good defense, be a decent rebounder but can shoot the ball and is a very efficient scorer.

I want no part of this generation's Sam Bowie

Legitimate size, decent rebounder, expiring contract. Maybe minimal acquisition cost.
Is he better than Parker or GWill? Money aside?

I like Barnes better, but it's apples and oranges.
That said, still a pass for me.

[slamtheking]

The Kings officially announced Friday they have signed Len to a free agent contract, finalizing an agreement they reached earlier in the week. Terms of the deal were not disclosed, but the 7-foot center signed a two-year, $7.65 million deal, sources told The Sacramento Bee.

Sacramento has compiled a fair amount of bigs:

Holmes
Thompson
Alex Len
Damien Jones

added to Bagley and Metu.  Plus they have Harrison Barnes who is a swing.

I wonder if all of this could make Bagley more available.  He would fit our TPE so that gives us some flexibility but it is not clear what they might want back for him.

I don't see what others see in Marvin Bagley. Poor outside shooter. Terrible FT shooter. Inefficient scorer. Bad defender. A 1:1.4 assist to turnover ratio. An average to good rebounder(I say average since he is 6'11".

If there's a PF from the Kings that I want in a trade it's Harrison Barnes. He, like Tatum, is the prototypical, new wave, stretch PF that can play good defense, be a decent rebounder but can shoot the ball and is a very efficient scorer.

I want no part of this generation's Sam Bowie

that's an insult to Bowie.  Bowie was actually a pretty good player when he could get on the court.  but staying healthy enough to get on the court was a huge issue for him.

Bagley isn't a tenth of the player Bowie was. 

[Vermont Green]

The Kings officially announced Friday they have signed Len to a free agent contract, finalizing an agreement they reached earlier in the week. Terms of the deal were not disclosed, but the 7-foot center signed a two-year, $7.65 million deal, sources told The Sacramento Bee.

Sacramento has compiled a fair amount of bigs:

Holmes
Thompson
Alex Len
Damien Jones

added to Bagley and Metu.  Plus they have Harrison Barnes who is a swing.

I wonder if all of this could make Bagley more available.  He would fit our TPE so that gives us some flexibility but it is not clear what they might want back for him.

I don't see what others see in Marvin Bagley. Poor outside shooter. Terrible FT shooter. Inefficient scorer. Bad defender. A 1:1.4 assist to turnover ratio. An average to good rebounder(I say average since he is 6'11".

If there's a PF from the Kings that I want in a trade it's Harrison Barnes. He, like Tatum, is the prototypical, new wave, stretch PF that can play good defense, be a decent rebounder but can shoot the ball and is a very efficient scorer.

I want no part of this generation's Sam Bowie

What I see in Bagley is an improvement over Parker, Ojeleye, and Grant Williams, based on last season.

After the Theis trade (roughly end of March), Parker, GWill, and Ojeleye played 724 total minutes over about 30 games (collective average of 24 min/game).  In those collective 24 minutes, the total per game production from the 3 players was 7.4 pts and 4.0 rebs.

I am looking for a PF that can come in and do more with those 24 minutes.  That is all.  And I think Bagley can do that.  He about doubled that production in roughly 26 min/gm last season.  Plus his is 22 and has potential to figure it out and become a good to very good player, something that is far less likely for Parker or GWilliams.

[BMark]

The Kings officially announced Friday they have signed Len to a free agent contract, finalizing an agreement they reached earlier in the week. Terms of the deal were not disclosed, but the 7-foot center signed a two-year, $7.65 million deal, sources told The Sacramento Bee.

Sacramento has compiled a fair amount of bigs:

Holmes
Thompson
Alex Len
Damien Jones

added to Bagley and Metu.  Plus they have Harrison Barnes who is a swing.

I wonder if all of this could make Bagley more available.  He would fit our TPE so that gives us some flexibility but it is not clear what they might want back for him.

I don't see what others see in Marvin Bagley. Poor outside shooter. Terrible FT shooter. Inefficient scorer. Bad defender. A 1:1.4 assist to turnover ratio. An average to good rebounder(I say average since he is 6'11".

If there's a PF from the Kings that I want in a trade it's Harrison Barnes. He, like Tatum, is the prototypical, new wave, stretch PF that can play good defense, be a decent rebounder but can shoot the ball and is a very efficient scorer.

I want no part of this generation's Sam Bowie

 

Bagley is more like Darko

[Birdman]

Pass on Bagley..guy can’t stay healthy esp with his foot which is a hard injury for a basketball player

[Vermont Green]

Bagley is more like Darko

Boy, that seems like a stretch.  I am not trying to be a Bagley fan boy but Darko in 9 NBA seasons (6 teams) is a career 6 pts / 4 rebs with his best season being about 9 pts / 5 rebs in 2010-11 for MIN where he started 69 games and played 24 min.

Bagley in 3 seasons has a career average of 14.5 pts / 7.5 rebs and is only 22 years old (not 23 until March).  I have no idea how Bagley's career will comp out (Jeff Green for example, in his prime, was around 15 pts / 6 Rebs) but he is already done more than Darko ever did.  Bagley had durability issues in 2019-20 but seemed fine other than that.

[liam]

If we need a guy on minimum contract when all the dust settles, I'd take a look at Garrison Mathews. He's a 38.9 3 point shooter and a decent defender. A solid end of the bench shooter.

[Who]

Bagley is more like Darko

Boy, that seems like a stretch.  I am not trying to be a Bagley fan boy but Darko in 9 NBA seasons (6 teams) is a career 6 pts / 4 rebs with his best season being about 9 pts / 5 rebs in 2010-11 for MIN where he started 69 games and played 24 min.

Bagley in 3 seasons has a career average of 14.5 pts / 7.5 rebs and is only 22 years old (not 23 until March).  I have no idea how Bagley's career will comp out (Jeff Green for example, in his prime, was around 15 pts / 6 Rebs) but he is already done more than Darko ever did.  Bagley had durability issues in 2019-20 but seemed fine other than that.

I have the opposite reaction. I feel Bagley has not done enough to compare to Darko. Darko was a legit starting center in the NBA. He was a well above average defender, an adequate rebounder, an above average passer & a below average but somewhat useful scorer.

Bagley to this point in his career has been a complete liability. His dreadful defense has cost his team more than negatively than any of his positive contributions add. He is a net negative. He does not deserve to start or play anywhere near as many minutes as he gets. He is a net negative. A stat padder.

Darko did not have as gaudy numbers as Bagley but he helped his teams more than Bagley did.

I wish Darko had of played on better teams so he would've been appreciated more. He was not the star Detroit hoped for but he did become a solid starter. Much like Kwame Brown did.

This has yet to be accomplished by Bagley. First step is getting his defense up to a passable level. Then his offensive skills will allow him to be a positive contributor to his team. An additive player.

But that is something he has not yet done.