Moses Brown

[liam]

Why would OKC trade horford for kemba, taking on more money in the process for a team not trying to win, and still include Brown if they thought he was worth anywhere close to a #1 pick?  Makes no sense right? 

Brown is basically a throw in; a project that has severe limitations that won't become a rotation player.  He's basically a different kind of Luke Kornet and issues are well known not just by the thunder but anyone that scouts.

For the celtics, why not, he's cheap and I guess you never know.  But Brown was NOT the equivalent of the first round pick.

He's already much better than Luke Kornet has ever been, is 21 and was starting most of last season. As much as he's not the equivalent of a FRP he's also not the equivalent of a 3rd big scrub

Him and Timelord both on the squad makes me wonder if Udoka will bring in a big man coach to help develop and refine their games.

Isn't that Horford?

[Ogaju]

Don’t forget Tacko Fall…..definitely could use a big man coach but those out there don’t seem to care..McHale, Kareem, Bill Walton!!

[wikkid1]

I’ve only ever seen the kid play that one game against us where he was hitting everything and grabbing boards like Rodman.  If Udoka can get him to play like that on a consistent basis I think we’d all be pretty ecstatic.  He doesn’t have to part the Red Sea or anything but if he added some bulk I think he could be pretty decent.

[nickagneta]

Why would OKC trade horford for kemba, taking on more money in the process for a team not trying to win, and still include Brown if they thought he was worth anywhere close to a #1 pick?  Makes no sense right? 

Brown is basically a throw in; a project that has severe limitations that won't become a rotation player.  He's basically a different kind of Luke Kornet and issues are well known not just by the thunder but anyone that scouts.

For the celtics, why not, he's cheap and I guess you never know.  But Brown was NOT the equivalent of the first round pick.

He's already much better than Luke Kornet has ever been, is 21 and was starting most of last season. As much as he's not the equivalent of a FRP he's also not the equivalent of a 3rd big scrub

Him and Timelord both on the squad makes me wonder if Udoka will bring in a big man coach to help develop and refine their games.

Isn't that Horford?

Nope

[gouki88]

Why would OKC trade horford for kemba, taking on more money in the process for a team not trying to win, and still include Brown if they thought he was worth anywhere close to a #1 pick?  Makes no sense right? 

Brown is basically a throw in; a project that has severe limitations that won't become a rotation player.  He's basically a different kind of Luke Kornet and issues are well known not just by the thunder but anyone that scouts.

For the celtics, why not, he's cheap and I guess you never know.  But Brown was NOT the equivalent of the first round pick.

He's already much better than Luke Kornet has ever been, is 21 and was starting most of last season. As much as he's not the equivalent of a FRP he's also not the equivalent of a 3rd big scrub

Him and Timelord both on the squad makes me wonder if Udoka will bring in a big man coach to help develop and refine their games.

Such as his very close friend LaMarcus Aldridge?

[nickagneta]

Why would OKC trade horford for kemba, taking on more money in the process for a team not trying to win, and still include Brown if they thought he was worth anywhere close to a #1 pick?  Makes no sense right? 

Brown is basically a throw in; a project that has severe limitations that won't become a rotation player.  He's basically a different kind of Luke Kornet and issues are well known not just by the thunder but anyone that scouts.

For the celtics, why not, he's cheap and I guess you never know.  But Brown was NOT the equivalent of the first round pick.

He's already much better than Luke Kornet has ever been, is 21 and was starting most of last season. As much as he's not the equivalent of a FRP he's also not the equivalent of a 3rd big scrub

Him and Timelord both on the squad makes me wonder if Udoka will bring in a big man coach to help develop and refine their games.

Such as his very close friend LaMarcus Aldridge?

TP ...I like the way you think!

[gouki88]

Why would OKC trade horford for kemba, taking on more money in the process for a team not trying to win, and still include Brown if they thought he was worth anywhere close to a #1 pick?  Makes no sense right? 

Brown is basically a throw in; a project that has severe limitations that won't become a rotation player.  He's basically a different kind of Luke Kornet and issues are well known not just by the thunder but anyone that scouts.

For the celtics, why not, he's cheap and I guess you never know.  But Brown was NOT the equivalent of the first round pick.

He's already much better than Luke Kornet has ever been, is 21 and was starting most of last season. As much as he's not the equivalent of a FRP he's also not the equivalent of a 3rd big scrub

Him and Timelord both on the squad makes me wonder if Udoka will bring in a big man coach to help develop and refine their games.

Such as his very close friend LaMarcus Aldridge?

TP ...I like the way you think!

Rob with LMA's mid-range touch would be a monster! One can dream

[Big333223]

I just asked this in another thread but maybe this is the better place for it: Does anyone else think Moses looks like a giant 12 year old? Skinny, long, doesn't quite have total control over his limbs.

He's 21 he's probably not done filling out. A year from now, he might be more coordinated.

Legit size and seems to have a great motor and great attitude. If both Horford and Thompson are still on the team in November, he'll have two great role models. Horford teaching him the finer points of the game, Thompson teaching him how to maximize a similar skillset.

I'm optimistic but also realize he could easily be out of the league in 2 years.

[Tr1boy]

I just asked this in another thread but maybe this is the better place for it: Does anyone else think Moses looks like a giant 12 year old? Skinny, long, doesn't quite have total control over his limbs.

He's 21 he's probably not done filling out. A year from now, he might be more coordinated.

Legit size and seems to have a great motor and great attitude. If both Horford and Thompson are still on the team in November, he'll have two great role models. Horford teaching him the finer points of the game, Thompson teaching him how to maximize a similar skillset.

I'm optimistic but also realize he could easily be out of the league in 2 years.

has a young face. But is more filled out than some other players at his age

for example Christian Wood

I like that Brown has thicker lower body/calfs for his height.    At least there is a base there.  And now can focus on filling out the rest of his body without sacrificing his mobility/verticality

[GreenlyGreeny]

If Rollie is high on Moses, none of us should be down on Moses. You can’t really teach height and hustle, which this kid has a bundle of, so we’ll see what he can learn the next 2-3 years. He has huge potential IMHO. Far more excited about him than injury-plagued Timelord and Langford.

[Birdman]

I really believe Moses will have a better career than TimeLord

[#1P4P]

Over/Under 1.5 times Brad asked for Lu Dort instead of Moses Brown?

Moses is 21, 7’2 245 with a 7’3.5 wingspan and 9’3 standing reach, has a good motor, moves well for his size, nice touch around the basket, clean injury history, is 2 years into his professional development with one NBA season under his belt, and signed for 3 more years for less than $2M per year.

TimeLord is in the last season of his contract before RFA and will be expensive to re-sign, if he stays healthy averaging more than 25 MPG. Moses will be insurance, if he matches or exceeds TimeLord’s development, we’ll seem Rob on the trading block.

In the current NBA you still need a small ball center. IF Moses even develops into a starter, Rob Williams will still have a job here.

Moses is taking Luke Kornet’s place. Wagner and Kornet were given a shot because we needed height, but neither panned out. Kornet might have gotten a 2nd chance as an outside the paint-break in case of emergency guy off the bench, but that ship has sailed.

Brad is kicking tires. Hopefully Moses sticks. I was hoping for Jakob Poetl or Christian Woods the past 2 years. Maybe Moses can be that here?

The small ball and closing 5 is Horford, not TimeLord.

I love TimeLord, his athleticism and overall ability makes him one of one. The issue is that his injury history looks like a grocery list in variety and length.

If Rob stays healthy, he tentatively becomes part of the core of this team; if he continues to be injury prone, Moses vaults him on the depth chart and Celtics management considers moving him in the near future.

[86MaxwellSmart]

Timelord gotta stop trying to jump through the roof on every shot.

[tstorey_97]

I just asked this in another thread but maybe this is the better place for it: Does anyone else think Moses looks like a giant 12 year old? Skinny, long, doesn't quite have total control over his limbs.

He's 21 he's probably not done filling out. A year from now, he might be more coordinated.

Legit size and seems to have a great motor and great attitude. If both Horford and Thompson are still on the team in November, he'll have two great role models. Horford teaching him the finer points of the game, Thompson teaching him how to maximize a similar skillset.

I'm optimistic but also realize he could easily be out of the league in 2 years.

At 240, not that skinny but 7'2" is a lot for 240 to cover.
He has very good to excellent control over his arms/hands...that is actually one of his "assets." Watch him dribble, good to very good handle. Hands are very good to excellent around the rim.

Yes he runs the floor very well and under good control, he does a solid Jerry Rice imitation in transition on oops.

He was coached not to shoot so he didn't (he just dunked)....that is a liability.

He got his average up to 2 blocks per game when OKC played him last season during their tankathon..

I agree he will improve with veteran bigs, summer league, training camp.

I predict Brown will be a target inside for Pritchard...kind of a "Mutt & Jeff" thing. (sorry for the 1950's reference)

[Big333223]

You can’t really teach height and hustle, which this kid has a bundle of

Those two things together really raise the floor of a player.

TP to tstorey_97 for the breakdown.