Merged: GreenlyGreeny Trade Ideas

[GreenlyGreeny]

True. Kuzma would be excellent depth at the 4/3 for us. He may require more such as Parker, who LeBron may delude himself into thinking he can spell some of his minutes. Bet LeBron would love playing with TT Kardashian again.

This just reaffirms that you would not be able to get him for Grant.

I agree he would be a upgrade over Grant 100%

Tristan Thompson is a better player than Kuzma and costs less. Why are we making this trade?

Get rid of a locker room problem in TT, get rid of deadweight in Grant, and add cost-controlled depth at the 4/3.

Kuzma seems like a considerably worse locker-room presence

That was a long time ago and he seems to have matured. Kuzma has a good contract aligned with his production. He would be great off the bench.

[slamtheking]

True. Kuzma would be excellent depth at the 4/3 for us. He may require more such as Parker, who LeBron may delude himself into thinking he can spell some of his minutes. Bet LeBron would love playing with TT Kardashian again.

This just reaffirms that you would not be able to get him for Grant.

I agree he would be a upgrade over Grant 100%

Tristan Thompson is a better player than Kuzma and costs less. Why are we making this trade?

Get rid of a locker room problem in TT, get rid of deadweight in Grant, and add cost-controlled depth at the 4/3.

Kuzma seems like a considerably worse locker-room presence

That was a long time ago and he seems to have matured. Kuzma has a good contract aligned with his production. He would be great off the bench.

he's grossly overrated.  no interest in him whatsoever

[nickagneta]

True. Kuzma would be excellent depth at the 4/3 for us. He may require more such as Parker, who LeBron may delude himself into thinking he can spell some of his minutes. Bet LeBron would love playing with TT Kardashian again.

This just reaffirms that you would not be able to get him for Grant.

I agree he would be a upgrade over Grant 100%

Tristan Thompson is a better player than Kuzma and costs less. Why are we making this trade?

Get rid of a locker room problem in TT, get rid of deadweight in Grant, and add cost-controlled depth at the 4/3.

Kuzma seems like a considerably worse locker-room presence

That was a long time ago and he seems to have matured. Kuzma has a good contract aligned with his production. He would be great off the bench.

he's grossly overrated.  no interest in him whatsoever

When I think of Kuzma I question whether the Celtics would be better off with him on the Celtics or on the team the Celtics are playing.

The answer is: I would rather him on the opposing team. I think Kuzma would help the Celtics win more if he is on the other team.

[slamtheking]

True. Kuzma would be excellent depth at the 4/3 for us. He may require more such as Parker, who LeBron may delude himself into thinking he can spell some of his minutes. Bet LeBron would love playing with TT Kardashian again.

This just reaffirms that you would not be able to get him for Grant.

I agree he would be a upgrade over Grant 100%

Tristan Thompson is a better player than Kuzma and costs less. Why are we making this trade?

Get rid of a locker room problem in TT, get rid of deadweight in Grant, and add cost-controlled depth at the 4/3.

Kuzma seems like a considerably worse locker-room presence

That was a long time ago and he seems to have matured. Kuzma has a good contract aligned with his production. He would be great off the bench.

he's grossly overrated.  no interest in him whatsoever

When I think of Kuzma I question whether the Celtics would be better off on the Celtics or on the team the Celtics are playing.

The answer is: I would rather him on the opposing team. I think Kuzma would help the Celtics win more if he is on the other team.

exactly. 

[gouki88]

True. Kuzma would be excellent depth at the 4/3 for us. He may require more such as Parker, who LeBron may delude himself into thinking he can spell some of his minutes. Bet LeBron would love playing with TT Kardashian again.

This just reaffirms that you would not be able to get him for Grant.

I agree he would be a upgrade over Grant 100%

Tristan Thompson is a better player than Kuzma and costs less. Why are we making this trade?

Get rid of a locker room problem in TT, get rid of deadweight in Grant, and add cost-controlled depth at the 4/3.

Kuzma seems like a considerably worse locker-room presence

That was a long time ago and he seems to have matured. Kuzma has a good contract aligned with his production. He would be great off the bench.

No he doesn't. He's acting in the exact same way.

He's also regressing on the offensive end, having become truly terrible there, plays below average defence and turns 26 soon. Why is there interest in him? We could easily get someone of his level for the MLE

[GreenlyGreeny]

Let’s say we re-sign Fournier to $15-17 million per year over 3-4 years. Let’s say Beal does not sign his extension, which would be tantamount to demanding a trade. What are the odds the Wizards would agree to give Beal for Fournier, Horford, our 2021 second-round pick, and our 2023 and 2025 first-round picks?

Smart/Pritchard/Maybe Madar/Edwards
Beal/Langford
Brown/Nesmith
Tatum/Parker/GWill
TT/Timelord/Moses

Then sign Smart to an extension.

If we are confident Moses can be our backup center, turn around and move around TT/Timelord/GWill/Edwards:picks/swaps for a young 2nd or 3rd year center (Maybe Wiseman?).

Smart/McConnell at MLE?/Pritchard (Madar stashed again)
Beal/Langford/Ring-chasing veteran
Brown/Nesmith/Ring-chasing veteran
Tatum/Parker/Ring-chasing veteran
Wiseman/Moses/Harry Giles, Tatum’s College BFF?

Assuming Langford and Nesmith develop into role players, if not borderline starters (not asking a lot of lottery picks), can see the above winning a title.

[GreenlyGreeny]

Now agree on skipping Kuzma. Does not move the needle.

[bogg]

Tristan Thompson is a better player than Kuzma and costs less. Why are we making this trade?

At least one of Horford, Thompson, or Rob is going to have to go for either a big forward or point guard this summer. There's zero chance either Rob or Thompson would be happy as a third-stringer in a contract season and it'd be an incredibly poor job of cap management to have either the Thompson or Horford contract dedicated to a deep-bench player.

There exists a price low enough where it makes sense for Boston to turn Thompson into Kuzma, but it's almost definitely less than what LA would accept. Pretty much the only way I'd see it happening is if Rich Paul forced it on Thompson's behalf.

[gouki88]

Tristan Thompson is a better player than Kuzma and costs less. Why are we making this trade?

At least one of Horford, Thompson, or Rob is going to have to go for either a big forward or point guard this summer. There's zero chance either Rob or Thompson would be happy as a third-stringer in a contract season and it'd be an incredibly poor job of cap management to have either the Thompson or Horford contract dedicated to a deep-bench player.

There exists a price low enough where it makes sense for Boston to turn Thompson into Kuzma, but it's almost definitely less than what LA would accept. Pretty much the only way I'd see it happening is if Rich Paul forced it on Thompson's behalf.

Fully agree we should move TT, just can’t stand Kuzma

My ideal move is a TT + Langford for Thad Young swap. Think his game would be absolutely ideal for our offence with his passing and shot IQ.

[JAH1892]

Fournier, TT, GWill, Romeo & 2 picks for Beal

Smart and 1 pick for Wood

Beal
Brown
Tatum
Wood
Horford

Find someone at buyout for the TPE for PG or PF cover...Lowry or Griffin or the like

Sorted

[Csfan1984]

Let’s say we re-sign Fournier to $15-17 million per year over 3-4 years. Let’s say Beal does not sign his extension, which would be tantamount to demanding a trade. What are the odds the Wizards would agree to give Beal for Fournier, Horford, our 2021 second-round pick, and our 2023 and 2025 first-round picks.

Issue is that package will be out bid and Wizards would be looking at rebuilding rather than taking on Fournier and some low 1st. If Beal goes on the trade market in the off season it's doubtful he lands on the C's. Mid season there might be a strong shot but I feel it will be for a very different package. There will need to be a third team.

[Diggles]

OKC will trump any trade.   

If we get Beal its because he wants to sign with us.    Tatum, Brown and Beal is like having Hayward all over again.   

[Moranis]

True. Kuzma would be excellent depth at the 4/3 for us. He may require more such as Parker, who LeBron may delude himself into thinking he can spell some of his minutes. Bet LeBron would love playing with TT Kardashian again.

This just reaffirms that you would not be able to get him for Grant.

I agree he would be a upgrade over Grant 100%

Tristan Thompson is a better player than Kuzma and costs less. Why are we making this trade?

Get rid of a locker room problem in TT, get rid of deadweight in Grant, and add cost-controlled depth at the 4/3.

Kuzma seems like a considerably worse locker-room presence

That was a long time ago and he seems to have matured. Kuzma has a good contract aligned with his production. He would be great off the bench.

No he doesn't. He's acting in the exact same way.

He's also regressing on the offensive end, having become truly terrible there, plays below average defence and turns 26 soon. Why is there interest in him? We could easily get someone of his level for the MLE

He isn't a good fit with Lebron and the Lakers have really mismanaged him.  I think he'd be a lot better in a different system.

[Celtics4ever]

He isn't a good fit with Lebron and the Lakers have really mismanaged him

Name a team mate that Lebron has not thrown under the bus it is much easier than naming one he has not.

[gouki88]

True. Kuzma would be excellent depth at the 4/3 for us. He may require more such as Parker, who LeBron may delude himself into thinking he can spell some of his minutes. Bet LeBron would love playing with TT Kardashian again.

This just reaffirms that you would not be able to get him for Grant.

I agree he would be a upgrade over Grant 100%

Tristan Thompson is a better player than Kuzma and costs less. Why are we making this trade?

Get rid of a locker room problem in TT, get rid of deadweight in Grant, and add cost-controlled depth at the 4/3.

Kuzma seems like a considerably worse locker-room presence

That was a long time ago and he seems to have matured. Kuzma has a good contract aligned with his production. He would be great off the bench.

No he doesn't. He's acting in the exact same way.

He's also regressing on the offensive end, having become truly terrible there, plays below average defence and turns 26 soon. Why is there interest in him? We could easily get someone of his level for the MLE

He isn't a good fit with Lebron and the Lakers have really mismanaged him.  I think he'd be a lot better in a different system.

Maybe, but I don't think that team is here, given our two best players are shoot-first wings