Woj: Celtics Acquire Evan Fournier for two 2nd Rd Picks

[Cman]

Trading for Fournier was a good move. It makes the Cs better in the short run. They might be able to get one of the people that were bought out, but assume for now that they don't (if they do, it's icing on the cake).

Trading for Fournier was not a blockbuster move, but let's be honest with ourselves, other than maybe Vucevic, there were not ANY blockbuster deal/ players to be had. Fournier didn't cost much (don't @ met about the TPE -- this is what its here for, deals like this), will certainly help us in the short run, maybe we get a little lucky and things start to click with the players and we make a bit of a run.

If it doesn't work out, no biggie. But, I think it will work out better than the cry-crys on here think.

[Ogaju]

When will Fournier be available to play? What kind of COVID protocol does he have to pass?

I hope he's dressed for Friday!

A new toy!

[hwangjini_1]

This is interesting: Fournier has shot 43% (186-432) on spot-up catch-and-shoot jumpers. He's going to get a lot of spot-up shots.

Fournier's 3 pointers are more common and more successful from the LEFT side of the court, particularly the left corner, 52%.

he is at 50% in the right corner, but does not take many shots.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/fournier-shot-chart-this-season

[Who]

I am happy to have Fournier here. I am just not sure it was the best use of the TPE. But he is a useful player and he will help.

I do look forward to seeing him in a Celtics jersey.

I have liked him throughout his NBA career. I do believe he will be a good fit in CBS' offense because of his versatility with ball-handling, passing and shooting. He is the type of player who should do well in an offense built around sharing the ball. Equal opportunity offense. Assuming we get back to that type of offense and away from the increasing amounts one-on-one stuff.

[tenn_smoothie]

There has to be more to this deal, otherwise it's spending money to put a nice new sail on a sinking ship.

What a great analogy.

[tenn_smoothie]

I am happy to have Fournier here. I am just not sure it was the best use of the TPE. But he is a useful player and he will help.

I do look forward to seeing him in a Celtics jersey.

I have liked him throughout his NBA career. I do believe he will be a good fit in CBS' offense because of his versatility with ball-handling, passing and shooting. He is the type of player who should do well in an offense built around sharing the ball. Equal opportunity offense. Assuming we get back to that type of offense and away from the increasing amounts one-on-one stuff.

Big assumption there. Brad doesn't seem to have the ability to hold players accountable for going rogue from the offense.
In other words, if Tatum, Brown, Smart are repeatedly going 1-on-1 or jacking bad 3's in a game, you sit their ass down.
"Hey Jayson, we are running my offense, not yours. Understood ?"

[PAOBoston]

Sounds like Cs want/expect Fournier to be here long term.

https://twitter.com/gwashburnglobe/status/1375426894217236480?s=21

[Celtics2021]

According to Himmelsbach, the 2nds we're sending are the lesser of our two 2025 picks (ours and Memphis) and our 2027 2nd.  For unprotected 2nds, that's about the least valuable we could have offered.

[Roy H.]

Translated interview with Fournier:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=https://trashtalk.co/2021/03/26/evan-fournier-linterview-avec-trashtalk-apres-son-transfert-boston-cest-un-putain-de-challenge-sportif/

[celts55]

Okay. Stupid question, but what was the advantage of Adding Teague? I don’t really understand the financial impact.
Was it an advantage to the Celtics? What did Orlando get out of taking and waiving him?

Also, why do I read people saying they created a roster spot when they sent out three players and got 3 back?

Thanks in advance

[Roy H.]

Okay. Stupid question, but what was the advantage of Adding Teague? I don’t really understand the financial impact.
Was it an advantage to the Celtics? What did Orlando get out of taking and waiving him?

Also, why do I read people saying they created a roster spot when they sent out three players and got 3 back?

Thanks in advance

After the Fournier deal, we were above the luxury tax.  The second deal got us below it, and far enough below it to add a player on a pro-rated minimum salary.

We don't have an empty roster spot yet, but once somebody agrees to sign here we can waive Green Kornet to create one.

[Rikibellevie]

I listened on his interview in french TV. He is close to journalists/old players on TV or on main french broadcast. He always talks quiet honestly. He spoke about his role and saying that he was presuming to fit the Hayward role in a more catch and shoot style. He said with his game he can adapt to different offensive schems and can be that guy. He spoke about his respect about the franchise. He didn't seem extatic but that isn't his personnality...
... When the question was about him still a free agent, he could just answer yes... But the way he said it, really means there is nothing about next year. And he isn't I think the kind of guy to take a discount or so. Funnily he seems to be close of Hayward mentality. Hope I am wrong but if continues to play well like he did this season, I expect offer we shouldn't match... If the TPE end like that I will be very disapointed. Even in a sign and trade this summer with some picks we could point a guy for next years (like Ball by exemple if we dump Kemba or Collins). If it ends with 2 moonth of Evan and then only 9M left it will be horific. Hope I am wrong.

[Vermont Green]

I listened on his interview in french TV. He is close to journalists/old players on TV or on main french broadcast. He always talks quiet honestly. He spoke about his role and saying that he was presuming to fit the Hayward role in a more catch and shoot style. He said with his game he can adapt to different offensive schems and can be that guy. He spoke about his respect about the franchise. He didn't seem extatic but that isn't his personnality...
... When the question was about him still a free agent, he could just answer yes... But the way he said it, really means there is nothing about next year. And he isn't I think the kind of guy to take a discount or so. Funnily he seems to be close of Hayward mentality. Hope I am wrong but if continues to play well like he did this season, I expect offer we shouldn't match... If the TPE end like that I will be very disapointed. Even in a sign and trade this summer with some picks we could point a guy for next years (like Ball by exemple if we dump Kemba or Collins). If it ends with 2 moonth of Evan and then only 9M left it will be horific. Hope I am wrong.

Great info.  Thanks

I also hope we extend/resign him and if we don't, it will be a fairly disappointing end to $17M of the TPE.  But don't gloss over the sign and trade option.  Say he signs for more than $17M and we are able to either get some players back or end up with more than $17M in TPE.  That is not such a bad outcome either.

[Celtics2021]

I listened on his interview in french TV. He is close to journalists/old players on TV or on main french broadcast. He always talks quiet honestly. He spoke about his role and saying that he was presuming to fit the Hayward role in a more catch and shoot style. He said with his game he can adapt to different offensive schems and can be that guy. He spoke about his respect about the franchise. He didn't seem extatic but that isn't his personnality...
... When the question was about him still a free agent, he could just answer yes... But the way he said it, really means there is nothing about next year. And he isn't I think the kind of guy to take a discount or so. Funnily he seems to be close of Hayward mentality. Hope I am wrong but if continues to play well like he did this season, I expect offer we shouldn't match... If the TPE end like that I will be very disapointed. Even in a sign and trade this summer with some picks we could point a guy for next years (like Ball by exemple if we dump Kemba or Collins). If it ends with 2 moonth of Evan and then only 9M left it will be horific. Hope I am wrong.

I agree that I think he will go to the highest bidder.  I do expect the Celtics to be solidlly in the luxury tax next season assuming a reasonable playoff run that gives ownership a justification to spend, so it's not impossible the C's will be the highest bidder if it's a good fit.  If he does sign elsewhere next summer, it's possible we could be creative and arrange a S&T with his new team -- either that could result in a trade exception of up to $20ish million, or we could immediately take back more than $25 million in salary from his new team or a third team.  In other words, if he doesn't resign, it's not impossible to structure a trade that again gives us future flexibility, and quickly get it to a number that fits in a player like Beal.  For example, Fournier to his new team, and Grant, Nesmith, and picks could enable the Celtics to match Beal's salary without the Wizards having to take a ton of salary back.

[Rikibellevie]

I listened on his interview in french TV. He is close to journalists/old players on TV or on main french broadcast. He always talks quiet honestly. He spoke about his role and saying that he was presuming to fit the Hayward role in a more catch and shoot style. He said with his game he can adapt to different offensive schems and can be that guy. He spoke about his respect about the franchise. He didn't seem extatic but that isn't his personnality...
... When the question was about him still a free agent, he could just answer yes... But the way he said it, really means there is nothing about next year. And he isn't I think the kind of guy to take a discount or so. Funnily he seems to be close of Hayward mentality. Hope I am wrong but if continues to play well like he did this season, I expect offer we shouldn't match... If the TPE end like that I will be very disapointed. Even in a sign and trade this summer with some picks we could point a guy for next years (like Ball by exemple if we dump Kemba or Collins). If it ends with 2 moonth of Evan and then only 9M left it will be horific. Hope I am wrong.

Great info.  Thanks

I also hope we extend/resign him and if we don't, it will be a fairly disappointing end to $17M of the TPE.  But don't gloss over the sign and trade option.  Say he signs for more than $17M and we are able to either get some players back or end up with more than $17M in TPE.  That is not such a bad outcome either.

De rien ! I didn't thought about that, you are true is is a good possibility.And the most probable I guess.
. Maybe now that Ainge don't collect anymore bunch of picks his new goal is increasing each year our TPE !