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Re: Its time for Danny to be agressive at the trade deadline
« Reply #45 on: February 01, 2021, 09:16:19 AM »

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My take is that this team has solutions on the roster for every problem it has.

Kemba should improve, figure out his role, and become a complimentary 3rd scorer. Langford and Nesmith should slowly emerge as 2 way role players.

Give up on the signed vets. They didn't work.Swapping Pritchard for Teague will provide more spacing and ball movement. Robert Williams is in and Thompson is mostly out. Stabilize roles, dig in and we start winning a lot of games.

The big one is to commit to Semi as a PJ Tucker type of player, and play him consistently in that role to establish his game. If he can't handle it after 15 games, then get the actual PJ Tucker. Start him, make him power forward. Commit.


Re: Its time for Danny to be agressive at the trade deadline
« Reply #46 on: February 01, 2021, 09:35:50 AM »

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My take is that this team has solutions on the roster for every problem it has.

Kemba should improve, figure out his role, and become a complimentary 3rd scorer. Langford and Nesmith should slowly emerge as 2 way role players.

Give up on the signed vets. They didn't work.Swapping Pritchard for Teague will provide more spacing and ball movement. Robert Williams is in and Thompson is mostly out. Stabilize roles, dig in and we start winning a lot of games.

The big one is to commit to Semi as a PJ Tucker type of player, and play him consistently in that role to establish his game. If he can't handle it after 15 games, then get the actual PJ Tucker. Start him, make him power forward. Commit.
   
     Kemba is continuing to handle the ball in the halfcourt trying to break his man ,opposed to Jaylen . Jaylen sitting in the corner with even Smart in more of a creating role when all these guys are in together. I don’t know the best solution . If Kemba isnt scoring he’s a real negative out there. I’d really like him not effecting Jaylen’s role. Arguably our best player , efficient as heck, and not caught up in hero ball nonsense or embarrassing his defender. Dude will just try to make the best play for the team snd has been succeeding all year at it.

Re: Its time for Danny to be agressive at the trade deadline
« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2021, 10:21:22 AM »

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My take is that this team has solutions on the roster for every problem it has.

Kemba should improve, figure out his role, and become a complimentary 3rd scorer. Langford and Nesmith should slowly emerge as 2 way role players.

Give up on the signed vets. They didn't work.Swapping Pritchard for Teague will provide more spacing and ball movement. Robert Williams is in and Thompson is mostly out. Stabilize roles, dig in and we start winning a lot of games.

The big one is to commit to Semi as a PJ Tucker type of player, and play him consistently in that role to establish his game. If he can't handle it after 15 games, then get the actual PJ Tucker. Start him, make him power forward. Commit.
   
     Kemba is continuing to handle the ball in the halfcourt trying to break his man ,opposed to Jaylen . Jaylen sitting in the corner with even Smart in more of a creating role when all these guys are in together. I don’t know the best solution . If Kemba isnt scoring he’s a real negative out there. I’d really like him not effecting Jaylen’s role. Arguably our best player , efficient as heck, and not caught up in hero ball nonsense or embarrassing his defender. Dude will just try to make the best play for the team snd has been succeeding all year at it.

Yeah, it appears that this season hinges on whether Walker and Smart can adjust. The script has flipped. Walker must play off Tatum and Brown, not the other way around. He needs to move the ball and look for his offense when the defenses collapse around them. He and Smart need to cut down on breaking the defense themselves by half at least. His new job is spacing, and making the defense pay for double teams.

We still need Kemba's scoring, but he needs to look for his shots off movement much more often.

Re: Its time for Danny to be agressive at the trade deadline
« Reply #48 on: February 01, 2021, 10:28:43 AM »

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My take is that this team has solutions on the roster for every problem it has.

Kemba should improve, figure out his role, and become a complimentary 3rd scorer. Langford and Nesmith should slowly emerge as 2 way role players.

Give up on the signed vets. They didn't work.Swapping Pritchard for Teague will provide more spacing and ball movement. Robert Williams is in and Thompson is mostly out. Stabilize roles, dig in and we start winning a lot of games.

The big one is to commit to Semi as a PJ Tucker type of player, and play him consistently in that role to establish his game. If he can't handle it after 15 games, then get the actual PJ Tucker. Start him, make him power forward. Commit.
   
     Kemba is continuing to handle the ball in the halfcourt trying to break his man ,opposed to Jaylen . Jaylen sitting in the corner with even Smart in more of a creating role when all these guys are in together. I don’t know the best solution . If Kemba isnt scoring he’s a real negative out there. I’d really like him not effecting Jaylen’s role. Arguably our best player , efficient as heck, and not caught up in hero ball nonsense or embarrassing his defender. Dude will just try to make the best play for the team snd has been succeeding all year at it.

Yeah, it appears that this season hinges on whether Walker and Smart can adjust. The script has flipped. Walker must play off Tatum and Brown, not the other way around. He needs to move the ball and look for his offense when the defenses collapse around them. He and Smart need to cut down on breaking the defense themselves by half at least. His new job is spacing, and making the defense pay for double teams.

We still need Kemba's scoring, but he needs to look for his shots off movement much more often.

Kemba has made comments acknowledging that.  It’s a matter of learning to play that way and doing it on a consistent basis.  It’s going to take time.  The fact he missed so much time and is still shaking off the rust has only added more difficulty to it. 

Re: Its time for Danny to be agressive at the trade deadline
« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2021, 11:53:01 AM »

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My take is that this team has solutions on the roster for every problem it has.

I agree with this at least to the extent of Walker playing with Brown and Tatum.  I am not worried about that at all.  Walker played fine with them last season.  The problems started when his knee wore down.  Walker is not playing well period, not relative to how he is playing as part of the team.  It is not a given that he will get his game back, but I think more likely than not he will.  Then he can worry about fine tuning it to best fit in with Brown, Tatum, and the rest of the team.

I don't agree that we have solutions to EVERY problem though.  I don't believe that RWilliams is the solution to our weaknesses with our big rotation.  None of our bigs are very good, including RWilliams.  I think it is more likely that Thompson gets in better shape and improves some and that will help, but not solve the problem either.  We need to pick up someone through a TPE trade or something like that in order to meaningfully upgrade our big rotation or this will continue to be a weakness.  To me, this is more than a "nice to have" upgrade.  I think it will limit how far we go in the playoffs if we are not able to improve it.

We also have a weakness in that we don't really have a solid vet wing to bring in off the bench.  We can likely get by with how we rotate Brown and Tatum (as suggested) but it would help to have a more solid option off the bench than Nesmith (who is improving) or Langford (who may or may not be healthy).  Actually Javonte Green has been OK but it would be nice to have a better option.  I put this at more nice to have than need to have though.  Rotations shorten up in the playoffs anyway.  If we have Tatum, Brown, Smart, and Walker all healthy, we can work around this weakness.

Re: Its time for Danny to be agressive at the trade deadline
« Reply #50 on: February 01, 2021, 12:02:40 PM »

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My take is that this team has solutions on the roster for every problem it has.



I'm not sure that's true with respect to having a guy who can man the middle during crunch time without taking away more on offense than he gives the team on defense, or vice versa.  This team just isn't the same in crunch time without a guy like Al Horford holding the defense together and creating crucial balance in half-court offensive sets.

If the team is fully healthy and the rotation is tight, I do think they have enough to potentially upset any team in a 7 game series.  But full health seems unlikely, and with such a young team it's hard to feel confident that all of the supporting players will be consistent enough.
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Re: Its time for Danny to be agressive at the trade deadline
« Reply #51 on: February 01, 2021, 01:55:59 PM »

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I was reading that PJ Tucker could be had for 3 second round picks. That seems like a no brainer.

Re: Its time for Danny to be agressive at the trade deadline
« Reply #52 on: February 01, 2021, 02:38:23 PM »

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With the youth of JT and JB Ainge needs to be really careful with how he uses his now dwindling assets. This is not the time to make short sighted trades for about to be FA vets (PJ Tucker 35 / JJ Redick 36). Those players may help this year in the playoffs but are not likely to return next season and are very short sighted signings.
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Re: Its time for Danny to be agressive at the trade deadline
« Reply #53 on: February 01, 2021, 02:38:57 PM »

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Can’t win a champ when half a team has 1-3 years experience.
Time for DA to do what he did when we got the big 3! Find experienced vets who want to win and can contribute now. We are done building! Keep 2-3 youngsters with the most potential.
Exactly, what people don't understand is especially in the modern day NBA, there is a WINDOW to this. You can't just let Brown and Tatum hit their peaks and assume oh great, let's develop a bunch of young guys with them and think they will stay happy long term. That's not how it works anymore. If the team stands pat and never makes a move towards building an ACTUAL ROSTER with vets, and a swingsman that can play big minutes, I could see one of them becoming frustrated in a couple of years and wanting out. For 2 years now the team has had 6/7 tops NBA level players performing at that level and a bunch of janitors

Re: Its time for Danny to be agressive at the trade deadline
« Reply #54 on: February 01, 2021, 02:39:43 PM »

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With the youth of JT and JB Ainge needs to be really careful with how he uses his now dwindling assets. This is not the time to make short sighted trades for about to be FA vets (PJ Tucker 35 / JJ Redick 36). Those players may help this year in the playoffs but are not likely to return next season and are very short sighted signings.
Yeah great, just keep wasting years of Brown and Tatum. We don't need any help. Great thinking. I'm not saying to go all in like they did in 2001 for the playoff push with Rodney Rogers and Tony Delk (which did Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. us up long term), but given how the NBA works, Celtics need an actual roster sooner rather than later

Re: Its time for Danny to be agressive at the trade deadline
« Reply #55 on: February 01, 2021, 02:51:09 PM »

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Yeah great, just keep wasting years of Brown and Tatum. We don't need any help. Great thinking. I'm not saying to go all in like they did in 2001 for the playoff push with Rodney Rogers and Tony Delk



I just wanna say, respect for picking the name of a guy who was on the team for like 4 months in 2012 as your username.

I always liked Pietrus, even though he was never as good when he was on the Celts as I hoped and wanted him to be.
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Re: Its time for Danny to be agressive at the trade deadline
« Reply #56 on: February 01, 2021, 03:47:53 PM »

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With the youth of JT and JB Ainge needs to be really careful with how he uses his now dwindling assets. This is not the time to make short sighted trades for about to be FA vets (PJ Tucker 35 / JJ Redick 36). Those players may help this year in the playoffs but are not likely to return next season and are very short sighted signings.
Yeah great, just keep wasting years of Brown and Tatum. We don't need any help. Great thinking. I'm not saying to go all in like they did in 2001 for the playoff push with Rodney Rogers and Tony Delk (which did Edited for profanity.  Please do not do it again. us up long term), but given how the NBA works, Celtics need an actual roster sooner rather than later

Yeah, I mean we cant keep treading water saying "next year we will go all in!" or eventually Tatum/Brown may get frustrated. Now, im not saying give up the future for someone like Reddick

but if you can get someone who is a veteran but younger, like Aaron gordon has been a name thrown around they can compete now with but also is young enough he can be a part of the future

Re: Its time for Danny to be agressive at the trade deadline
« Reply #57 on: February 01, 2021, 04:32:04 PM »

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The team isn't playing very well as a group yet. Walker will get it together and hopefully, be 80% of what he was in the recent past.

The Celtics have a big three, how the rest of the team meshes is yet to be seen. In the bubble, they were one of the best teams.

You get stretches during a season...In their last eight games the Celtics have allowed 106.6 ppg. That's top 5. and scored 110 ppg which ain't much, but, it's top 8 in the NBA.

Theis has become an offensive force with highest FG% 3PT% (13/34) and PPG of his career.

Pritchard might end up being a solid backup PG when he returns.

If Robert played 40 MPG? 15 PPG 15 RPG 90% FT% 3.7 blocks. He'd probably have his own website with a paywall.

Semi is having one of his best seasons as a Celtic...they guy is a rock.

Javonte Green has been very solid on defense. He doesn't make bad mistakes.

The rest of the team features some iffy play by Teague and Thompson, who've literally been with the team for a couple of months and Nesmith is swinging and missing a lot, but he's flying around on defense.

Stevens..."Hey Nesmith? Get in there and cover Lebron James!"  He has that rookie moment out of the way now.

Paul - Kevin - Ray played really well together...this big three will figure it out.

They are better than last year and last year they were very good.



Re: Its time for Danny to be agressive at the trade deadline
« Reply #58 on: February 01, 2021, 04:41:53 PM »

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We just got back a guy who was an all star last season. He's working his way back and getting uneven results thus far, but given his career, it seems foolish to doubt that he's going to be back and going to be very good.

How could people like OP have forgotten there were periods last year where Kemba was the best player on the court?

The biggest chance we have for improvement is not a trade. It's Kemba getting back into playing shape and acclimating himself to playing with the improved Tatum & Brown. I can't fathom the lack of patience a person has to have to be throwing up the red flag at this point in the season, and Kemba only being back half a dozen games or so.

Re: Its time for Danny to be agressive at the trade deadline
« Reply #59 on: February 01, 2021, 05:16:03 PM »

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If u are hoarding picks and hoping that they pan out, then u not going win..need vets
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
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