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[Csfan1984]

I don't like Tillman unless it's 2nd round. Like Grant Williams I see limited upside.

Jeesh, second round for a playmaking big man who has apparently developed an outside shot, who can also anchor a defence? You realise that’s Stevens’ dream big man right?

I would infinitely prefer going with someone who I know can actually play rather than shooting for potential (like JJJ, Yabu, Fab Melo, etc.)

I looked into Tillman his defense is overrated and based more on effort than ability. He retreats on almost every perimeter play. One on one or in switches he isn't very good. Too many times he couldn't better younger bigs from putting up good numbers against him. I get that he doesn't look lost and he does hustle back so that's great for college but in the pros you need more than that. I haven't seen much play making from him either 3 ast and 2 turnovers is accurate to his skill. His offense is also suspect as I did see him get most his points via easy buckets thanks to others plus his fts % and 3pt % isn't good to project stretch play. He showed little improvements year to year.

Also if the JJJ you are talking about is JaJuan Johnson, JJJ was more of a sure thing and way better prospect than Tillman. Compare their careers, measurements, stats, and awards. JJJ drafted was 22 and Tillman will turn 22 in season. JJJ never added strength and never got better than what he was in college but has had a pro career outside the NBA.

we will have to agree to disagree, I personally am confident that Tillman will be a capable role player very early in his NBA career. I expect him to play high IQ positional defense, be an above average screener/sealer, and be capable of making the correct reads out of the high post and in top of the key actions. He is the only big in this draft who I feel confident in there ability to cover all of these skills. In a perfect world he would be taller, a little quicker and have a 3pt shot but even despite the physical limitations and if the shot doesn't come I would still take him at 26 or 30.

Agree completely. Think Csfan1984 has completely misread Tillman

I say look at draft sites, a majority have Tillman second round. Only a recent hype up based on youtube highlight watching has fans interested in Tillman as a potential 1st rounder. The guy is a second rounder.

Tillman made all big ten, all defensive team and dpoy

Is such resume a 2nd round pick prospect?

They said Draymond Green was not a 1st round pick. How did that turn out?

JJJ made all that and conference player of the year. It's how a player fits and potential growth. Tillman is projected by many sites to be a second rounder. His game production, size and upside show that. Almost anyone can look good in highlights you have to look at all the factors. He isn't a 1.

As for Green numerous teams had him as a 1 and C's infamously debated Green that year for their 1st pick. Green was also the main guy on his team. Green improved every year unlike Tillman. Tillman isn't in that class. So very much Tillman is rightfully placed as a second round prospect. He wasn't better than Green was in college.

Tillman 3rd year vs Green 3rd year college stats is similar.  Tillman stats has improved on a yearly basis

Not sure what you mean

Not significantly the per, fg% other stats are worse in some cases. And Draymond usage and role increased 3rd and 4th year he was the driving force. Tillman isn't that and wasn't the main focus of opposing defenses. You can't compare the two just because Draymond was underrated. The small ball wasn't popular then. Tillman doesn't have the playmaking with the ball, the fastbreak ability and other qualities that make Green a mismatch. Tillman would be worse than Theis.

[Tr1boy]

I don't like Tillman unless it's 2nd round. Like Grant Williams I see limited upside.

Jeesh, second round for a playmaking big man who has apparently developed an outside shot, who can also anchor a defence? You realise that’s Stevens’ dream big man right?

I would infinitely prefer going with someone who I know can actually play rather than shooting for potential (like JJJ, Yabu, Fab Melo, etc.)

I looked into Tillman his defense is overrated and based more on effort than ability. He retreats on almost every perimeter play. One on one or in switches he isn't very good. Too many times he couldn't better younger bigs from putting up good numbers against him. I get that he doesn't look lost and he does hustle back so that's great for college but in the pros you need more than that. I haven't seen much play making from him either 3 ast and 2 turnovers is accurate to his skill. His offense is also suspect as I did see him get most his points via easy buckets thanks to others plus his fts % and 3pt % isn't good to project stretch play. He showed little improvements year to year.

Also if the JJJ you are talking about is JaJuan Johnson, JJJ was more of a sure thing and way better prospect than Tillman. Compare their careers, measurements, stats, and awards. JJJ drafted was 22 and Tillman will turn 22 in season. JJJ never added strength and never got better than what he was in college but has had a pro career outside the NBA.

we will have to agree to disagree, I personally am confident that Tillman will be a capable role player very early in his NBA career. I expect him to play high IQ positional defense, be an above average screener/sealer, and be capable of making the correct reads out of the high post and in top of the key actions. He is the only big in this draft who I feel confident in there ability to cover all of these skills. In a perfect world he would be taller, a little quicker and have a 3pt shot but even despite the physical limitations and if the shot doesn't come I would still take him at 26 or 30.

Agree completely. Think Csfan1984 has completely misread Tillman

I say look at draft sites, a majority have Tillman second round. Only a recent hype up based on youtube highlight watching has fans interested in Tillman as a potential 1st rounder. The guy is a second rounder.

Tillman made all big ten, all defensive team and dpoy

Is such resume a 2nd round pick prospect?

They said Draymond Green was not a 1st round pick. How did that turn out?

JJJ made all that and conference player of the year. It's how a player fits and potential growth. Tillman is projected by many sites to be a second rounder. His game production, size and upside show that. Almost anyone can look good in highlights you have to look at all the factors. He isn't a 1.

As for Green numerous teams had him as a 1 and C's infamously debated Green that year for their 1st pick. Green was also the main guy on his team. Green improved every year unlike Tillman. Tillman isn't in that class. So very much Tillman is rightfully placed as a second round prospect. He wasn't better than Green was in college.

Tillman 3rd year vs Green 3rd year college stats is similar.  Tillman stats has improved on a yearly basis

Not sure what you mean

Not significantly the per, fg% other stats are worse in some cases. And Draymond usage and role increased 3rd and 4th year he was the driving force. Tillman isn't that and wasn't the main focus of opposing defenses. You can't compare the two just because Draymond was underrated. The small ball wasn't popular then. Tillman doesn't have the playmaking with the ball, the fastbreak ability and other qualities that make Green a mismatch. Tillman would be worse than Theis.

Tillman19pts, 6 assist, 4 blk game

https://youtu.be/KnaROnW9UgQ

Still unconvinced regarding his playmaking capability? Why dont you review 1:29. And tell me thats not Draymond Greenesque?   Only a few C/PF in the nba can execute this point guard like play

[gouki88]

I don't like Tillman unless it's 2nd round. Like Grant Williams I see limited upside.

Jeesh, second round for a playmaking big man who has apparently developed an outside shot, who can also anchor a defence? You realise that’s Stevens’ dream big man right?

I would infinitely prefer going with someone who I know can actually play rather than shooting for potential (like JJJ, Yabu, Fab Melo, etc.)

I looked into Tillman his defense is overrated and based more on effort than ability. He retreats on almost every perimeter play. One on one or in switches he isn't very good. Too many times he couldn't better younger bigs from putting up good numbers against him. I get that he doesn't look lost and he does hustle back so that's great for college but in the pros you need more than that. I haven't seen much play making from him either 3 ast and 2 turnovers is accurate to his skill. His offense is also suspect as I did see him get most his points via easy buckets thanks to others plus his fts % and 3pt % isn't good to project stretch play. He showed little improvements year to year.

Also if the JJJ you are talking about is JaJuan Johnson, JJJ was more of a sure thing and way better prospect than Tillman. Compare their careers, measurements, stats, and awards. JJJ drafted was 22 and Tillman will turn 22 in season. JJJ never added strength and never got better than what he was in college but has had a pro career outside the NBA.

we will have to agree to disagree, I personally am confident that Tillman will be a capable role player very early in his NBA career. I expect him to play high IQ positional defense, be an above average screener/sealer, and be capable of making the correct reads out of the high post and in top of the key actions. He is the only big in this draft who I feel confident in there ability to cover all of these skills. In a perfect world he would be taller, a little quicker and have a 3pt shot but even despite the physical limitations and if the shot doesn't come I would still take him at 26 or 30.

Agree completely. Think Csfan1984 has completely misread Tillman

I say look at draft sites, a majority have Tillman second round. Only a recent hype up based on youtube highlight watching has fans interested in Tillman as a potential 1st rounder. The guy is a second rounder.

Ah, well if draft sites have him pegged as a 2nd rounder then what's the point! Not like skill-based big men who aren't particularly athletic have ever made them look dumb...

[Csfan1984]

I don't like Tillman unless it's 2nd round. Like Grant Williams I see limited upside.

Jeesh, second round for a playmaking big man who has apparently developed an outside shot, who can also anchor a defence? You realise that’s Stevens’ dream big man right?

I would infinitely prefer going with someone who I know can actually play rather than shooting for potential (like JJJ, Yabu, Fab Melo, etc.)

I looked into Tillman his defense is overrated and based more on effort than ability. He retreats on almost every perimeter play. One on one or in switches he isn't very good. Too many times he couldn't better younger bigs from putting up good numbers against him. I get that he doesn't look lost and he does hustle back so that's great for college but in the pros you need more than that. I haven't seen much play making from him either 3 ast and 2 turnovers is accurate to his skill. His offense is also suspect as I did see him get most his points via easy buckets thanks to others plus his fts % and 3pt % isn't good to project stretch play. He showed little improvements year to year.

Also if the JJJ you are talking about is JaJuan Johnson, JJJ was more of a sure thing and way better prospect than Tillman. Compare their careers, measurements, stats, and awards. JJJ drafted was 22 and Tillman will turn 22 in season. JJJ never added strength and never got better than what he was in college but has had a pro career outside the NBA.

we will have to agree to disagree, I personally am confident that Tillman will be a capable role player very early in his NBA career. I expect him to play high IQ positional defense, be an above average screener/sealer, and be capable of making the correct reads out of the high post and in top of the key actions. He is the only big in this draft who I feel confident in there ability to cover all of these skills. In a perfect world he would be taller, a little quicker and have a 3pt shot but even despite the physical limitations and if the shot doesn't come I would still take him at 26 or 30.

Agree completely. Think Csfan1984 has completely misread Tillman

I say look at draft sites, a majority have Tillman second round. Only a recent hype up based on youtube highlight watching has fans interested in Tillman as a potential 1st rounder. The guy is a second rounder.

Tillman made all big ten, all defensive team and dpoy

Is such resume a 2nd round pick prospect?

They said Draymond Green was not a 1st round pick. How did that turn out?

JJJ made all that and conference player of the year. It's how a player fits and potential growth. Tillman is projected by many sites to be a second rounder. His game production, size and upside show that. Almost anyone can look good in highlights you have to look at all the factors. He isn't a 1.

As for Green numerous teams had him as a 1 and C's infamously debated Green that year for their 1st pick. Green was also the main guy on his team. Green improved every year unlike Tillman. Tillman isn't in that class. So very much Tillman is rightfully placed as a second round prospect. He wasn't better than Green was in college.

Tillman 3rd year vs Green 3rd year college stats is similar.  Tillman stats has improved on a yearly basis

Not sure what you mean

Not significantly the per, fg% other stats are worse in some cases. And Draymond usage and role increased 3rd and 4th year he was the driving force. Tillman isn't that and wasn't the main focus of opposing defenses. You can't compare the two just because Draymond was underrated. The small ball wasn't popular then. Tillman doesn't have the playmaking with the ball, the fastbreak ability and other qualities that make Green a mismatch. Tillman would be worse than Theis.

Tillman19pts, 6 assist, 4 blk game

https://youtu.be/KnaROnW9UgQ

Still unconvinced regarding his playmaking capability? Why dont you review 1:29. And tell me thats not Draymond Greenesque?   Only a few C/PF in the nba can execute this point guard like play

Lol you have to be kidding.. only a few.. Even Robert Williams has made that play in the NBA it's a simple drive then drop off to an open guy. You guys are proving my point looking at highlights instead of full projection. Every player in the NBA had highlights in college. If we went by that every player would have limitless potential.

[gouki88]

I don't like Tillman unless it's 2nd round. Like Grant Williams I see limited upside.

Jeesh, second round for a playmaking big man who has apparently developed an outside shot, who can also anchor a defence? You realise that’s Stevens’ dream big man right?

I would infinitely prefer going with someone who I know can actually play rather than shooting for potential (like JJJ, Yabu, Fab Melo, etc.)

I looked into Tillman his defense is overrated and based more on effort than ability. He retreats on almost every perimeter play. One on one or in switches he isn't very good. Too many times he couldn't better younger bigs from putting up good numbers against him. I get that he doesn't look lost and he does hustle back so that's great for college but in the pros you need more than that. I haven't seen much play making from him either 3 ast and 2 turnovers is accurate to his skill. His offense is also suspect as I did see him get most his points via easy buckets thanks to others plus his fts % and 3pt % isn't good to project stretch play. He showed little improvements year to year.

Also if the JJJ you are talking about is JaJuan Johnson, JJJ was more of a sure thing and way better prospect than Tillman. Compare their careers, measurements, stats, and awards. JJJ drafted was 22 and Tillman will turn 22 in season. JJJ never added strength and never got better than what he was in college but has had a pro career outside the NBA.

we will have to agree to disagree, I personally am confident that Tillman will be a capable role player very early in his NBA career. I expect him to play high IQ positional defense, be an above average screener/sealer, and be capable of making the correct reads out of the high post and in top of the key actions. He is the only big in this draft who I feel confident in there ability to cover all of these skills. In a perfect world he would be taller, a little quicker and have a 3pt shot but even despite the physical limitations and if the shot doesn't come I would still take him at 26 or 30.

Agree completely. Think Csfan1984 has completely misread Tillman

I say look at draft sites, a majority have Tillman second round. Only a recent hype up based on youtube highlight watching has fans interested in Tillman as a potential 1st rounder. The guy is a second rounder.

Tillman made all big ten, all defensive team and dpoy

Is such resume a 2nd round pick prospect?

They said Draymond Green was not a 1st round pick. How did that turn out?

JJJ made all that and conference player of the year. It's how a player fits and potential growth. Tillman is projected by many sites to be a second rounder. His game production, size and upside show that. Almost anyone can look good in highlights you have to look at all the factors. He isn't a 1.

As for Green numerous teams had him as a 1 and C's infamously debated Green that year for their 1st pick. Green was also the main guy on his team. Green improved every year unlike Tillman. Tillman isn't in that class. So very much Tillman is rightfully placed as a second round prospect. He wasn't better than Green was in college.

Tillman 3rd year vs Green 3rd year college stats is similar.  Tillman stats has improved on a yearly basis

Not sure what you mean

Not significantly the per, fg% other stats are worse in some cases. And Draymond usage and role increased 3rd and 4th year he was the driving force. Tillman isn't that and wasn't the main focus of opposing defenses. You can't compare the two just because Draymond was underrated. The small ball wasn't popular then. Tillman doesn't have the playmaking with the ball, the fastbreak ability and other qualities that make Green a mismatch. Tillman would be worse than Theis.

Tillman19pts, 6 assist, 4 blk game

https://youtu.be/KnaROnW9UgQ

Still unconvinced regarding his playmaking capability? Why dont you review 1:29. And tell me thats not Draymond Greenesque?   Only a few C/PF in the nba can execute this point guard like play

Lol you have to be kidding.. only a few.. Even Robert Williams has made that play in the NBA it's a simple drive then drop off to an open guy. You guys are proving my point looking at highlights instead of full projection. Every player in the NBA had highlights in college. If we went by that every player would have limitless potential.
Nobody is “proving your point”

[CFAN38]

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Aaron Nesmith revealed to the media that he has a workout scheduled with the Cs at the end of the week.

He is a lights out shooting wing whose game is lacking outside of his elite shot. The value of his shot makes him a no brainer top 20 pick but I personally prefer a better defensive prospect on the wing. I also am not solid that he is a better prospect then Desmond Bane who may be a slightly inferior shooter but superior at every other aspect of the game   

[SteveD]

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Aaron Nesmith revealed to the media that he has a workout scheduled with the Cs at the end of the week.

He is a lights out shooting wing whose game is lacking outside of his elite shot. The value of his shot makes him a no brainer top 20 pick but I personally prefer a better defensive prospect on the wing. I also am not solid that he is a better prospect then Desmond Bane who may be a slightly inferior shooter but superior at every other aspect of the game

As a guard, I agree that Bane is a very good all around prospect compared to Nesmith. I would suggest that another wing, Saddiq Bey, would also fit that description.

[tstorey_97]

Bey or Precious....frontcourt talent. They both have a foot more of wingspan than Grant.

"It's Precious to Tacko for the jam!"

[tazzmaniac]

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Aaron Nesmith revealed to the media that he has a workout scheduled with the Cs at the end of the week.

He is a lights out shooting wing whose game is lacking outside of his elite shot. The value of his shot makes him a no brainer top 20 pick but I personally prefer a better defensive prospect on the wing. I also am not solid that he is a better prospect then Desmond Bane who may be a slightly inferior shooter but superior at every other aspect of the game

Bane has apparently been killing it in his team interviews. 

[Ilikesports17]

Nesmith scares me a bit because he seems  to have a sorta slow release. can't shoot off the dribble, cant create anything at all for himself, and isn't a good defender.

For him to be a valuable player it looks like he'll have to be an absolutely lights out shooter and as great as 52% from 3 on 8 attempts is, I worry about sample size there and that slower release against NBA teams.

Now if that translates and he figures out how to use his big body to be a passable defender, then I'm with it, but I just don't believe in his shooting enough to draft him as a guy whose entire draft value proposition is his shooting.

[liam]

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Aaron Nesmith revealed to the media that he has a workout scheduled with the Cs at the end of the week.

He is a lights out shooting wing whose game is lacking outside of his elite shot. The value of his shot makes him a no brainer top 20 pick but I personally prefer a better defensive prospect on the wing. I also am not solid that he is a better prospect then Desmond Bane who may be a slightly inferior shooter but superior at every other aspect of the game

Bane has apparently been killing it in his team interviews.

I think Bane is ready to go from day one. He would be great off our bench. He is one of the most nba ready players in this draft. I would be happy with Bane with anyone of our picks even at 14. It would be fantastic if the Celtics could pick Bane at 26 or 30. I’ve seen mocks that have Bane at 26 and 30 but have seen seen some with him in the teens.

[Csfan1984]

Nesmith scares me a bit because he seems  to have a sorta slow release. can't shoot off the dribble, cant create anything at all for himself, and isn't a good defender.

For him to be a valuable player it looks like he'll have to be an absolutely lights out shooter and as great as 52% from 3 on 8 attempts is, I worry about sample size there and that slower release against NBA teams.

Now if that translates and he figures out how to use his big body to be a passable defender, then I'm with it, but I just don't believe in his shooting enough to draft him as a guy whose entire draft value proposition is his shooting.

Sample size is an issue on the doubts as well as there are highlights of him doing everything you said he can't. Why it was so rare and mostly only late in the position, that's why there are doubts. Still if he was mostly catch and shoot at say 44% from 3 that would be good. Team already has guys that create and defend C's need elite shooters.

[Darth_Yoda]

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Aaron Nesmith revealed to the media that he has a workout scheduled with the Cs at the end of the week.

He is a lights out shooting wing whose game is lacking outside of his elite shot. The value of his shot makes him a no brainer top 20 pick but I personally prefer a better defensive prospect on the wing. I also am not solid that he is a better prospect then Desmond Bane who may be a slightly inferior shooter but superior at every other aspect of the game

Bane has apparently been killing it in his team interviews.

I think Bane is ready to go from day one. He would be great off our bench. He is one of the most nba ready players in this draft. I would be happy with Bane with anyone of our picks even at 14. It would be fantastic if the Celtics could pick Bane at 26 or 30. I’ve seen mocks that have Bane at 26 and 30 but have seen seen some with him in the teens.

Bane and Woodard would give an interesting bench grouping.

I like Bane or Riller at 26
Woodard or Tillman at 30
Hampton at 14.

[CFAN38]

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Aaron Nesmith revealed to the media that he has a workout scheduled with the Cs at the end of the week.

He is a lights out shooting wing whose game is lacking outside of his elite shot. The value of his shot makes him a no brainer top 20 pick but I personally prefer a better defensive prospect on the wing. I also am not solid that he is a better prospect then Desmond Bane who may be a slightly inferior shooter but superior at every other aspect of the game

Bane has apparently been killing it in his team interviews.

I think Bane is ready to go from day one. He would be great off our bench. He is one of the most nba ready players in this draft. I would be happy with Bane with anyone of our picks even at 14. It would be fantastic if the Celtics could pick Bane at 26 or 30. I’ve seen mocks that have Bane at 26 and 30 but have seen seen some with him in the teens.

Bane and Woodard would give an interesting bench grouping.

I like Bane or Riller at 26
Woodard or Tillman at 30
Hampton at 14.

I agree with you in most of this, I do not think we see the Celtics draft domestic players with all 3 picks. One of those will be a draft and stash. I’m also a little less bullish in Riller as a first rd pick now that he has measured smaller then Advertised.

[Ilikesports17]

Nesmith scares me a bit because he seems  to have a sorta slow release. can't shoot off the dribble, cant create anything at all for himself, and isn't a good defender.

For him to be a valuable player it looks like he'll have to be an absolutely lights out shooter and as great as 52% from 3 on 8 attempts is, I worry about sample size there and that slower release against NBA teams.

Now if that translates and he figures out how to use his big body to be a passable defender, then I'm with it, but I just don't believe in his shooting enough to draft him as a guy whose entire draft value proposition is his shooting.

Sample size is an issue on the doubts as well as there are highlights of him doing everything you said he can't. Why it was so rare and mostly only late in the position, that's why there are doubts. Still if he was mostly catch and shoot at say 44% from 3 that would be good. Team already has guys that create and defend C's need elite shooters.

He can't do those things. I'm glad that he was able to do enough of them against mid majojrs to throw on a highlight tape but all my mentioned weaknesses are real weaknesses.