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Re: Who's available that we can get at C
« Reply #135 on: December 26, 2019, 06:50:29 AM »

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Missing piece is a Center and a backup scoring option on the bench...Love Enes but not a rim protecter..Theis is more of a PF...Robert Williams is nothing more than a 3rd stringer and thats why he drop so far in draft..ppl think he is going to be a starter? I got some magic water to sell you than..Love this team but thats 2 holes thats needs to be filled

Theis is a C. This isn't your grandpa's NBA anymore.

Theis is forced to play C because the Celts have no choice.

He's only 6-8.

Would Theis be the starter if Horford is still a Celtic?

Brad Stevens started the season with Kanter as the starter.
But Kanter was horrible on defense, that's why Theis became the starter.

Re: Who's available that we can get at C
« Reply #136 on: December 26, 2019, 07:07:49 AM »

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Missing piece is a Center and a backup scoring option on the bench...Love Enes but not a rim protecter..Theis is more of a PF...Robert Williams is nothing more than a 3rd stringer and thats why he drop so far in draft..ppl think he is going to be a starter? I got some magic water to sell you than..Love this team but thats 2 holes thats needs to be filled

Theis is a C. This isn't your grandpa's NBA anymore.
Thats why Bucks and 76ers will beat us
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Re: Who's available that we can get at C
« Reply #137 on: December 26, 2019, 08:50:17 AM »

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Missing piece is a Center and a backup scoring option on the bench...Love Enes but not a rim protecter..Theis is more of a PF...Robert Williams is nothing more than a 3rd stringer and thats why he drop so far in draft..ppl think he is going to be a starter? I got some magic water to sell you than..Love this team but thats 2 holes thats needs to be filled

Theis is a C. This isn't your grandpa's NBA anymore.

Theis is forced to play C because the Celts have no choice.

He's only 6-8.

Would Theis be the starter if Horford is still a Celtic?

Brad Stevens started the season with Kanter as the starter.
But Kanter was horrible on defense, that's why Theis became the starter.

Horford would start at C if he were still on the team because he's better than Theis, not because Theis isn't a center...
I'm bitter.

Re: Who's available that we can get at C
« Reply #138 on: December 26, 2019, 09:03:08 AM »

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Missing piece is a Center and a backup scoring option on the bench...Love Enes but not a rim protecter..Theis is more of a PF...Robert Williams is nothing more than a 3rd stringer and thats why he drop so far in draft..ppl think he is going to be a starter? I got some magic water to sell you than..Love this team but thats 2 holes thats needs to be filled

Williams dropped mainly because of questions about his work ethic (which seemed very valid when he first got here, but it looks like it has worked out)

This was a tweet from Woj right after we picked him:
Quote from: Adrian Wojnarowski
Williams is a lottery-level talent, a player with immense talent. If he can show a commitment to playing hard, this could be a steal of the first-round. ESPN's @Mike_Schmitz compares him to another 27th overall pick: Clint Capela.

Any article about the pick from right after the draft says the exact same thing: incredible potential, very questionable work ethic. Will he reach his potential? Maybe not. But acting like he has no potential/no chance of being a starter just because he was the 27th pick is just ignoring how the draft actually works
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Re: Who's available that we can get at C
« Reply #139 on: December 26, 2019, 09:19:29 AM »

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Missing piece is a Center and a backup scoring option on the bench...Love Enes but not a rim protecter..Theis is more of a PF...Robert Williams is nothing more than a 3rd stringer and thats why he drop so far in draft..ppl think he is going to be a starter? I got some magic water to sell you than..Love this team but thats 2 holes thats needs to be filled

Theis is a C. This isn't your grandpa's NBA anymore.
Thats why Bucks and 76ers will beat us

****, like I said, its not your grandpa's NBA anymore. The Bucks have a generational talent, they don't have a traditional big whos a rim protector. Brook Lopez shoots threes. Joel Embiid has post talent and Rim protection, but he also shoots threes. Embiid scored 39 against us, but Theis and Kanter combined for roughly the same. We had more inside points than the Sixers, according to your logic, We shouldve won right? But we lost, why? Simple, the Sixers outshot us from three. Heck just today, the Sixers used the same formula to beat the bucks, with three point shooting.

Al Horford will start over Theis not because Theis isn't a Center but because he is a better player and a better fit. With Horford however, Theis will still play Center but as a backup. This notion that Theis is a power forward is idiotic.

Re: Who's available that we can get at C
« Reply #140 on: December 26, 2019, 09:20:52 AM »

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Missing piece is a Center and a backup scoring option on the bench...Love Enes but not a rim protecter..Theis is more of a PF...Robert Williams is nothing more than a 3rd stringer and thats why he drop so far in draft..ppl think he is going to be a starter? I got some magic water to sell you than..Love this team but thats 2 holes thats needs to be filled

Theis is a C. This isn't your grandpa's NBA anymore.

Theis is forced to play C because the Celts have no choice.

He's only 6-8.

Would Theis be the starter if Horford is still a Celtic?

Brad Stevens started the season with Kanter as the starter.
But Kanter was horrible on defense, that's why Theis became the starter.

Horford would start at C if he were still on the team because he's better than Theis, not because Theis isn't a center...

A 6-8 player is not ideal to play Center in the NBA.

Re: Who's available that we can get at C
« Reply #141 on: December 26, 2019, 09:27:21 AM »

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Missing piece is a Center and a backup scoring option on the bench...Love Enes but not a rim protecter..Theis is more of a PF...Robert Williams is nothing more than a 3rd stringer and thats why he drop so far in draft..ppl think he is going to be a starter? I got some magic water to sell you than..Love this team but thats 2 holes thats needs to be filled

Theis is a C. This isn't your grandpa's NBA anymore.
Thats why Bucks and 76ers will beat us

****, like I said, its not your grandpa's NBA anymore. The Bucks have a generational talent, they don't have a traditional big whos a rim protector. Brook Lopez shoots threes. Joel Embiid has post talent and Rim protection, but he also shoots threes. Embiid scored 39 against us, but Theis and Kanter combined for roughly the same. We had more inside points than the Sixers, according to your logic, We shouldve won right? But we lost, why? Simple, the Sixers outshot us from three. Heck just today, the Sixers used the same formula to beat the bucks, with three point shooting.

Al Horford will start over Theis not because Theis isn't a Center but because he is a better player and a better fit. With Horford however, Theis will still play Center but as a backup. This notion that Theis is a power forward is idiotic.

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Re: Who's available that we can get at C
« Reply #142 on: December 26, 2019, 09:30:27 AM »

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Re: Who's available that we can get at C
« Reply #143 on: December 26, 2019, 09:44:54 AM »

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Missing piece is a Center and a backup scoring option on the bench...Love Enes but not a rim protecter..Theis is more of a PF...Robert Williams is nothing more than a 3rd stringer and thats why he drop so far in draft..ppl think he is going to be a starter? I got some magic water to sell you than..Love this team but thats 2 holes thats needs to be filled

Theis is a C. This isn't your grandpa's NBA anymore.
Thats why Bucks and 76ers will beat us
I can see why a bigger guy would helpful against Embiid and the Sixers, but the Bucks?  A more traditional center would be worse against that team.  You don't want a bigger, slower guy trying to get to the 3 point line and beyond to get to Brook Lopez and someone with some quickness to slide in front of Giannis on his drives is far more important than having a big guy to challenge him at the rim. 

Re: Who's available that we can get at C
« Reply #144 on: December 26, 2019, 09:46:45 AM »

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Missing piece is a Center and a backup scoring option on the bench...Love Enes but not a rim protecter..Theis is more of a PF...Robert Williams is nothing more than a 3rd stringer and thats why he drop so far in draft..ppl think he is going to be a starter? I got some magic water to sell you than..Love this team but thats 2 holes thats needs to be filled

Theis is a C. This isn't your grandpa's NBA anymore.

Theis is forced to play C because the Celts have no choice.

He's only 6-8.

Would Theis be the starter if Horford is still a Celtic?

Brad Stevens started the season with Kanter as the starter.
But Kanter was horrible on defense, that's why Theis became the starter.

Horford would start at C if he were still on the team because he's better than Theis, not because Theis isn't a center...

A 6-8 player is not ideal to play Center in the NBA.

A 6' PG isn't ideal, either, but that doesn't mean that Kemba isn't a great player.

I don't think anyone would describe Theis as our "ideal" starting center, but he's certainly the best fit on the current roster, and a good player overall
I'm bitter.

Re: Who's available that we can get at C
« Reply #145 on: December 26, 2019, 09:51:56 AM »

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Missing piece is a Center and a backup scoring option on the bench...Love Enes but not a rim protecter..Theis is more of a PF...Robert Williams is nothing more than a 3rd stringer and thats why he drop so far in draft..ppl think he is going to be a starter? I got some magic water to sell you than..Love this team but thats 2 holes thats needs to be filled

Theis is a C. This isn't your grandpa's NBA anymore.
Thats why Bucks and 76ers will beat us
I can see why a bigger guy would helpful against Embiid and the Sixers, but the Bucks?  A more traditional center would be worse against that team.  You don't want a bigger, slower guy trying to get to the 3 point line and beyond to get to Brook Lopez and someone with some quickness to slide in front of Giannis on his drives is far more important than having a big guy to challenge him at the rim.

Look at the Toronto vs. Milwaukee east finals series last season.

Marc Gasol is slow but he did what Horford couldn't do against Giannis.

Gasol stood inside the paint and raised both arms every time Giannis tried to dunk.

Horford did the same thing, but Giannis was able to dunk over Horford.

Giannis couldn't dunk over Gasol.

Re: Who's available that we can get at C
« Reply #146 on: December 26, 2019, 09:54:29 AM »

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Missing piece is a Center and a backup scoring option on the bench...Love Enes but not a rim protecter..Theis is more of a PF...Robert Williams is nothing more than a 3rd stringer and thats why he drop so far in draft..ppl think he is going to be a starter? I got some magic water to sell you than..Love this team but thats 2 holes thats needs to be filled

Theis is a C. This isn't your grandpa's NBA anymore.

Theis is forced to play C because the Celts have no choice.

He's only 6-8.

Would Theis be the starter if Horford is still a Celtic?

Brad Stevens started the season with Kanter as the starter.
But Kanter was horrible on defense, that's why Theis became the starter.

Horford would start at C if he were still on the team because he's better than Theis, not because Theis isn't a center...

A 6-8 player is not ideal to play Center in the NBA.

A 6' PG isn't ideal, either, but that doesn't mean that Kemba isn't a great player.

I don't think anyone would describe Theis as our "ideal" starting center, but he's certainly the best fit on the current roster, and a good player overall

Don't move the goal post.

There are lots of good PGs out there that are below 6-feet.

But out of the 30 NBA teams this season, only 1 team is using a 6-8 Center.

Theis is not the best fit, the Celts just don't have a better option right now.

If Tristan Thompson or Derrick Favors gets bought out and joins the Celtics, any of those two would automatically replace Theis as the starting Center.

Even in international competition Theis is not being used as a Center because he's too short.

Re: Who's available that we can get at C
« Reply #147 on: December 26, 2019, 09:57:32 AM »

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Missing piece is a Center and a backup scoring option on the bench...Love Enes but not a rim protecter..Theis is more of a PF...Robert Williams is nothing more than a 3rd stringer and thats why he drop so far in draft..ppl think he is going to be a starter? I got some magic water to sell you than..Love this team but thats 2 holes thats needs to be filled

Theis is a C. This isn't your grandpa's NBA anymore.

Theis is forced to play C because the Celts have no choice.

He's only 6-8.

Would Theis be the starter if Horford is still a Celtic?

Brad Stevens started the season with Kanter as the starter.
But Kanter was horrible on defense, that's why Theis became the starter.

Horford would start at C if he were still on the team because he's better than Theis, not because Theis isn't a center...

A 6-8 player is not ideal to play Center in the NBA.

A 6' PG isn't ideal, either, but that doesn't mean that Kemba isn't a great player.

I don't think anyone would describe Theis as our "ideal" starting center, but he's certainly the best fit on the current roster, and a good player overall

I would say he's pretty close to ideal.

You could only identify perhaps 6 or so centers that would make us better. Given the money allocated and general fit involved, I don't see how we could do much better.

Re: Who's available that we can get at C
« Reply #148 on: December 26, 2019, 10:00:27 AM »

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Missing piece is a Center and a backup scoring option on the bench...Love Enes but not a rim protecter..Theis is more of a PF...Robert Williams is nothing more than a 3rd stringer and thats why he drop so far in draft..ppl think he is going to be a starter? I got some magic water to sell you than..Love this team but thats 2 holes thats needs to be filled

Theis is a C. This isn't your grandpa's NBA anymore.

Theis is forced to play C because the Celts have no choice.

He's only 6-8.

Would Theis be the starter if Horford is still a Celtic?

Brad Stevens started the season with Kanter as the starter.
But Kanter was horrible on defense, that's why Theis became the starter.

Horford would start at C if he were still on the team because he's better than Theis, not because Theis isn't a center...

A 6-8 player is not ideal to play Center in the NBA.

A 6' PG isn't ideal, either, but that doesn't mean that Kemba isn't a great player.

I don't think anyone would describe Theis as our "ideal" starting center, but he's certainly the best fit on the current roster, and a good player overall

I would say he's pretty close to ideal.

You could only identify perhaps 6 or so centers that would make us better. Given the money allocated and general fit involved, I don't see how we could do much better.

Yes, close to ideal, but not ideal.

If Theis only had Rob Williams' wingspan, Theis would be ideal.

But Theis is not tall and is not long.
That's why opposing Centers like Jarrett Allen and Embiid will abuse Theis inside the paint.

Re: Who's available that we can get at C
« Reply #149 on: December 26, 2019, 10:40:51 AM »

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Missing piece is a Center and a backup scoring option on the bench...Love Enes but not a rim protecter..Theis is more of a PF...Robert Williams is nothing more than a 3rd stringer and thats why he drop so far in draft..ppl think he is going to be a starter? I got some magic water to sell you than..Love this team but thats 2 holes thats needs to be filled

Theis is a C. This isn't your grandpa's NBA anymore.

Theis is forced to play C because the Celts have no choice.

He's only 6-8.

Would Theis be the starter if Horford is still a Celtic?

Brad Stevens started the season with Kanter as the starter.
But Kanter was horrible on defense, that's why Theis became the starter.

Horford would start at C if he were still on the team because he's better than Theis, not because Theis isn't a center...

A 6-8 player is not ideal to play Center in the NBA.

A 6' PG isn't ideal, either, but that doesn't mean that Kemba isn't a great player.

I don't think anyone would describe Theis as our "ideal" starting center, but he's certainly the best fit on the current roster, and a good player overall

I would say he's pretty close to ideal.

You could only identify perhaps 6 or so centers that would make us better. Given the money allocated and general fit involved, I don't see how we could do much better.

Yes, close to ideal, but not ideal.

If Theis only had Rob Williams' wingspan, Theis would be ideal.

But Theis is not tall and is not long.
That's why opposing Centers like Jarrett Allen and Embiid will abuse Theis inside the paint.

Actually by all accounts Theis is very long. He seems to have very long wing span in relation to his 6'8" height.   Very few have Rob Williams' wing span.