Who's available that we can get at C

[footey]

Not really a center; but heard on recent podcast that Marvin Williams could ask to be bought out of his contract after the trade deadline. 

If that were to happen, he'd be a great guy to add as a scoring 4 off the bench, and also could play small ball 5 in limited minutes. Guy always seems to hit shots against us, and defends well. 

[NKY fan]

How about Dwight ? Lakers are desperate for trade assets.
Is the MWE pick an overpay ?

[moiso]

How about Dwight ? Lakers are desperate for trade assets.
Is the MWE pick an overpay ?

The Lakers are trying to win now and Dwight is the epitome of that.  Plus they have to be thrilled with the way he's played this year.

[NKY fan]

How about Dwight ? Lakers are desperate for trade assets.
Is the MWE pick an overpay ?

The Lakers are trying to win now and Dwight is the epitome of that.  Plus they have to be thrilled with the way he's played this year.

He does his role well this season. They have Davis and McGee to play the 5. He’s probably their most efficient role player but they need more fire power as Lebron and Davis seemed gassed last night in the fourth quarter. They are the worst team in the league when those two aren’t on the floor.
I was thinking they should target another scorer like Derozan or Gallinari or even Chris Paul ... there is also that tall guy in Cleveland that’s waiting on LeBron to trade for him

[JSD]

Willy Cauley-Stein Signed with the golden state Warriors thinking he would be on a playoff team. He only makes 2 million a year



Of course he’s not very good but he’s another player to consider

[nickagneta]

Funny that no one was saying Theis was too small at center the last couple years when listed at 6'9" or 6'10" depending where you looked.

Measure him without shoes and suddenly people are complaining about his height. The problem isn't his height or reach as both are fine because he has good ups. The problem is, against some centers, he can struggle because they can move him around.

[BitterJim]

Missing piece is a Center and a backup scoring option on the bench...Love Enes but not a rim protecter..Theis is more of a PF...Robert Williams is nothing more than a 3rd stringer and thats why he drop so far in draft..ppl think he is going to be a starter? I got some magic water to sell you than..Love this team but thats 2 holes thats needs to be filled

Theis is a C. This isn't your grandpa's NBA anymore.

Theis is forced to play C because the Celts have no choice.

He's only 6-8.

Would Theis be the starter if Horford is still a Celtic?

Brad Stevens started the season with Kanter as the starter.
But Kanter was horrible on defense, that's why Theis became the starter.

Horford would start at C if he were still on the team because he's better than Theis, not because Theis isn't a center...

A 6-8 player is not ideal to play Center in the NBA.

A 6' PG isn't ideal, either, but that doesn't mean that Kemba isn't a great player.

I don't think anyone would describe Theis as our "ideal" starting center, but he's certainly the best fit on the current roster, and a good player overall

Don't move the goal post.

There are lots of good PGs out there that are below 6-feet.

But out of the 30 NBA teams this season, only 1 team is using a 6-8 Center.

Theis is not the best fit, the Celts just don't have a better option right now.

If Tristan Thompson or Derrick Favors gets bought out and joins the Celtics, any of those two would automatically replace Theis as the starting Center.

Even in international competition Theis is not being used as a Center because he's too short.

Dude, literally very post you've moved the goalposts. I'm just responding to your posts.

Only 1 other team in the entire NBA starts a PG as short (or shorter than) Kemba, and that's the 9-20 Wizards. Should we look to switch things up there, or recognize that their effectiveness on the court is more important to their listed height? I'll take a 6'8" effective defender like Theis over a 7' stiff like Poirier any day.

Nobody is saying that, out of all NBA players, Theis is the best fit ever. But of the players on this team or that we could reasonably trade for, he is absolutely the best fit for the starting lineup. The buyout market may yield a better option for the starting lineup, but we'll have to see

Either of those two old probably start over Theis because they're better fits/better players, not because Theis isn't a Center.

The starting bigs for the German National Team are Theis and Maxi Kleber, who is ALSO listed as a PF on their national team roster and plays as a stretch 4/5 for the Mavericks. I think most would consider Theis the Center in that lineup, and it seems like people that watched the team agree:

https://m.dw.com/en/germanys-basketball-team-licking-wounds-after-early-world-cup-exit/a-50361398

Two other NBA pros, Dallas Maverick Maxi Kleber and Boston Celtic Daniel Theis, were at Rödl's disposal. Kleber impressed most on defense, while Theis generally played as center despite being small by the modern game's standards at 2.03 meters (6 feet 8 inches).

[Rosco917]

Willy Cauley-Stein Signed with the golden state Warriors thinking he would be on a playoff team. He only makes 2 million a year



Of course he’s not very good but he’s another player to consider

He's not a star, but he defends well, is still youngish, and comes cheap. He protects the rim well, has good size. I'd rather give him consideration than Thompson and his bloated salary and horrible free throw shooting.   

[nickagneta]

Willy Cauley-Stein Signed with the golden state Warriors thinking he would be on a playoff team. He only makes 2 million a year



Of course he’s not very good but he’s another player to consider

He's not a star, but he defends well, is still youngish, and comes cheap. He protects the rim well, has good size. I'd rather give him consideration than Thompson and his bloated salary and horrible free throw shooting.

Unfortunately WCS has the BBIQ of a cabbage. All the good things you see in him are undone by this. WCS wound get owned by the MVP level big men that some are saying we need a big man to defend.

Even at Kentucky this was a huge problem. He had to stay extra years because of his inability to put his unreal athleticism and excellent size to use(he also had major questions about his work ethic which contributed but I haven't followed him close enough to know if this is still a problem).

[Fierce1]

Missing piece is a Center and a backup scoring option on the bench...Love Enes but not a rim protecter..Theis is more of a PF...Robert Williams is nothing more than a 3rd stringer and thats why he drop so far in draft..ppl think he is going to be a starter? I got some magic water to sell you than..Love this team but thats 2 holes thats needs to be filled

Theis is a C. This isn't your grandpa's NBA anymore.

Theis is forced to play C because the Celts have no choice.

He's only 6-8.

Would Theis be the starter if Horford is still a Celtic?

Brad Stevens started the season with Kanter as the starter.
But Kanter was horrible on defense, that's why Theis became the starter.

Horford would start at C if he were still on the team because he's better than Theis, not because Theis isn't a center...

A 6-8 player is not ideal to play Center in the NBA.

A 6' PG isn't ideal, either, but that doesn't mean that Kemba isn't a great player.

I don't think anyone would describe Theis as our "ideal" starting center, but he's certainly the best fit on the current roster, and a good player overall

Don't move the goal post.

There are lots of good PGs out there that are below 6-feet.

But out of the 30 NBA teams this season, only 1 team is using a 6-8 Center.

Theis is not the best fit, the Celts just don't have a better option right now.

If Tristan Thompson or Derrick Favors gets bought out and joins the Celtics, any of those two would automatically replace Theis as the starting Center.

Even in international competition Theis is not being used as a Center because he's too short.

Dude, literally very post you've moved the goalposts. I'm just responding to your posts.

Only 1 other team in the entire NBA starts a PG as short (or shorter than) Kemba, and that's the 9-20 Wizards. Should we look to switch things up there, or recognize that their effectiveness on the court is more important to their listed height? I'll take a 6'8" effective defender like Theis over a 7' stiff like Poirier any day.

Nobody is saying that, out of all NBA players, Theis is the best fit ever. But of the players on this team or that we could reasonably trade for, he is absolutely the best fit for the starting lineup. The buyout market may yield a better option for the starting lineup, but we'll have to see

Either of those two old probably start over Theis because they're better fits/better players, not because Theis isn't a Center.

The starting bigs for the German National Team are Theis and Maxi Kleber, who is ALSO listed as a PF on their national team roster and plays as a stretch 4/5 for the Mavericks. I think most would consider Theis the Center in that lineup, and it seems like people that watched the team agree:

https://m.dw.com/en/germanys-basketball-team-licking-wounds-after-early-world-cup-exit/a-50361398

Two other NBA pros, Dallas Maverick Maxi Kleber and Boston Celtic Daniel Theis, were at Rödl's disposal. Kleber impressed most on defense, while Theis generally played as center despite being small by the modern game's standards at 2.03 meters (6 feet 8 inches).

What I'm saying is don't move the goal post by comparing the Center position to the PG position.

Theis generally played as center despite being small by the modern game's standards[/b] at 2.03 meters (6 feet 8 inches).


That statement alone tells you that Theis is not the ideal Center.

The Celts gave the MLE to Kanter, hoping he would be the answer at Center.
But he's horrible on defense, that's why Theis replaced him as the starting C.

Poirier was signed using money that the cap space had left.
Unfortunately, like what you said, he's a stiff.

The Celtics tried to find a starting Center, but all the Centers they signed were just not good enough.

So Theis is not the ideal Center, he just got the job because no else is better than him among the current Celtic bigs.

A player that's only 6-8 is NOT an ideal Center in the NBA.

That's the reason why the Celts need to upgrade that position.

[Fierce1]

Willy Cauley-Stein Signed with the golden state Warriors thinking he would be on a playoff team. He only makes 2 million a year



Of course he’s not very good but he’s another player to consider

He's not a star, but he defends well, is still youngish, and comes cheap. He protects the rim well, has good size. I'd rather give him consideration than Thompson and his bloated salary and horrible free throw shooting.

Unfortunately WCS has the BBIQ of a cabbage. All the good things you see in him are undone by this. WCS wound get owned by the MVP level big men that some are saying we need a big man to defend.

But WCS is better than Poirier.

Having Theis, Kanter, RWill, and WCS for the playoffs is better than having Theis, Kanter, RWill, and Poirier.

[nickagneta]

Willy Cauley-Stein Signed with the golden state Warriors thinking he would be on a playoff team. He only makes 2 million a year



Of course he’s not very good but he’s another player to consider

He's not a star, but he defends well, is still youngish, and comes cheap. He protects the rim well, has good size. I'd rather give him consideration than Thompson and his bloated salary and horrible free throw shooting.

Unfortunately WCS has the BBIQ of a cabbage. All the good things you see in him are undone by this. WCS wound get owned by the MVP level big men that some are saying we need a big man to defend.

But WCS is better than Poirier.

Having Theis, Kanter, RWill, and WCS for the playoffs is better than having Theis, Kanter, RWill, and Poirier.

Who cares when neither will most likely ever be on the floor during important parts of games? All you are doing is making a trade to make a trade.

And as I have said before, I don't think Ainge believes he needs an upgrade at C to get to the Finals. If this team is healthy and hitting on all cylinders, it will be other teams needing to adjust to the Celtics and not the Celtics needing to adjust to other teams. I truly think this is the way management and the coaching staff see things.

[Fierce1]

Willy Cauley-Stein Signed with the golden state Warriors thinking he would be on a playoff team. He only makes 2 million a year



Of course he’s not very good but he’s another player to consider

He's not a star, but he defends well, is still youngish, and comes cheap. He protects the rim well, has good size. I'd rather give him consideration than Thompson and his bloated salary and horrible free throw shooting.

Unfortunately WCS has the BBIQ of a cabbage. All the good things you see in him are undone by this. WCS wound get owned by the MVP level big men that some are saying we need a big man to defend.

But WCS is better than Poirier.

Having Theis, Kanter, RWill, and WCS for the playoffs is better than having Theis, Kanter, RWill, and Poirier.

Who cares when neither will most likely ever be on the floor during important parts of games? All you are doing is making a trade to make a trade.

And as I have said before, I don't think Ainge believes he needs an upgrade at C to get to the Finals. If this team is healthy and hitting on all cylinders, it will be other teams needing to adjust to the Celtics and not the Celtics needing to adjust to other teams. I truly think this is the way management and the coaching staff see things.

It's almost January, so we'll know for sure in a month or so.

I know you don't think Ainge will make a move, but there's just no way Ainge will not make a move this season.
The flaw is very obvious.

From what I saw against Brooklyn and Philly, both teams didn't adjust to the Celts.

Jarrett Allen and DeAndre Jordan burned the Celtics for 22 points and 22 rebounds.

The Sixers already beat the Celtics twice and Horford didn't even play in that 2nd game against the Celts.

The trade deadline will decide this issue once and for all.

[tstorey_97]

I don't like what I'm about to do here, but, it works...sort of.

Theis 21 mpg 7 ppg 6 rpg
Kanter 17 mpg 8 ppg 7 rpg

Neither really play much at the end of close games as the Celtics have all of these incredible players whom aren't centers.

Brad is a pretty bright guy. he has a "two headed" center that

clocks 38 mpg gets 15 ppg and 13 rpg and usually isn't on the court late in a close game. Ainge pays them a combined $9.6M which also is financially efficient.

I know this isn't real, but, Stevens utilizes his two centers in the most efficient way he can and the Celtic's points allowed is third best in the league.

BTW, yes I want Blake Griffin or some other star power forward/center, but, I'm stuck with Theis for two 9 minute legs and the Grant Williams/Enes Kanter combo off the bench.

Can this bunch of oddly shaped front court scruffs, backing up four of the better scorers in the NBA, get it done in the playoffs against NBA royalty like the Bucks/Lakers/Clips/76'ers?

Not sure, but, it's going to be a he%# of a show.

[wiley]

I don't like what I'm about to do here, but, it works...sort of.

Theis 21 mpg 7 ppg 6 rpg
Kanter 17 mpg 8 ppg 7 rpg

Neither really play much at the end of close games as the Celtics have all of these incredible players whom aren't centers.

Brad is a pretty bright guy. he has a "two headed" center that

clocks 38 mpg gets 15 ppg and 13 rpg and usually isn't on the court late in a close game. Ainge pays them a combined $9.6M which also is financially efficient.

I know this isn't real, but, Stevens utilizes his two centers in the most efficient way he can and the Celtic's points allowed is third best in the league.

BTW, yes I want Blake Griffin or some other star power forward/center, but, I'm stuck with Theis for two 9 minute legs and the Grant Williams/Enes Kanter combo off the bench.

Can this bunch of oddly shaped front court scruffs, backing up four of the better scorers in the NBA, get it done in the playoffs against NBA royalty like the Bucks/Lakers/Clips/76'ers?

Not sure, but, it's going to be a he%# of a show.

good synopsis!  TP.  I would say that, despite none of our bigs being stars, an injury to one of them, especially Theis or Kanter, would devastate our chances.  Have to grab a buyout big, hopefully one who could be just below the level of Theis/Kanter (finding their equal in buyouts will not happen....unless Favors came free).