Enes Kanter to Celtics

[wiley]

I just read how Kanter fasted during the playoffs starting May 5th to observe Ramadan.  Looking at his game log, his production dropped off dramatically at that point.  Not sure what to think of that.

R. Williams will be ready by Ramadan....for big time minutes! 

[hwangjini_1]

I like the signing. Considering we only had 5m, the choices would have been much worse then Kanter.
Plusses:

1. He seems to pull down a ton of rebounds in limited minutes so that is a plus.

2. He can shoot FT’s at a good rate of 78% so this is not Monroe who could not hit the side of a barn while at the line- another plus.

3. I do not see anyone on that list that would sign for 5m a year and come close to the numbers he could put up

4. Sully or Kanter? We made the right choice 😁

5. Smart is not being tossed for a big right now like Adams- Huge plus. Danny is not jettisoning 22 year old Brown for an above average big man-Plus times a thousand!

6. Seems durable with games he can play.

7. Probably took less money to join us which means he wants to wear Green. We know how important that is.

Questions and Concerns:

1. Why only one season over 30 mpg? That year he averaged 19 and 11. If we had a center playing 30 min a game and did that, we would be popping champagne non stop. Is conditioning the issue or something else?
2. Anyone have defensive stats on him?
3. Can he jump? His block total seems low and that is being kind. Like .4 a game low.
4. Young and bouncing around a lot. That is usually not a good sign minus Chauncey history.
5. Is he able to play in Toronto?

Kanter was 71st in defensive rating out of 72 qualifying centers.

He is the next to worst defensive center in the NBA.

Kanter didn’t even have the worst DRtg among centers on the Portland roster.

And, his Portland DRtg of 109 was tied for 56th out of 102 centers.

Link

DRtg is a terrible metric for individual players, but it measures Kanter’s defense closer to mediocre than terrible.

Maybe you should try watching him play efense then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTSsK34iISk

yes, kanter is god awful on defense. when he tries really really hard he is merely poor. his defense will lose some games for the celtics. but his offense and rebounding will win others.

i look at this year as a transition year. anyone the celtics signed as center now will not be on the team when they contend in 2-3 years. ainge is thinking beyond next year.

kanter, by all accounts works hard and is a great team mate. good.

i am thinking that CBS may play him as the first big off the bench. he could lead the second unit in scoring and his defense might not be exposed so badly. as a second unit big i like him.

start TL or Theis or maybe Periror or someone. then sub in Kanter.

its a bridge year. you live with it.

[GreenFaith1819]

I can get behind Kanter.

Get him a jersey and tell him to suit up.

[action781]

In that video, a lot of him not stepping up high on the screen and rolls were clearly by design. As someone mentioned you can see him look over to Stotts and is waved to stay back on one play.  There were certainly about 3-5 bad defensive plays other than that. But I've seen single game compilations of other players like Harden, IT, LeBron, and Kyrie that are far worse.

[wiley]

I like the signing. Considering we only had 5m, the choices would have been much worse then Kanter.
Plusses:

1. He seems to pull down a ton of rebounds in limited minutes so that is a plus.

2. He can shoot FT’s at a good rate of 78% so this is not Monroe who could not hit the side of a barn while at the line- another plus.

3. I do not see anyone on that list that would sign for 5m a year and come close to the numbers he could put up

4. Sully or Kanter? We made the right choice 😁

5. Smart is not being tossed for a big right now like Adams- Huge plus. Danny is not jettisoning 22 year old Brown for an above average big man-Plus times a thousand!

6. Seems durable with games he can play.

7. Probably took less money to join us which means he wants to wear Green. We know how important that is.

Questions and Concerns:

1. Why only one season over 30 mpg? That year he averaged 19 and 11. If we had a center playing 30 min a game and did that, we would be popping champagne non stop. Is conditioning the issue or something else?
2. Anyone have defensive stats on him?
3. Can he jump? His block total seems low and that is being kind. Like .4 a game low.
4. Young and bouncing around a lot. That is usually not a good sign minus Chauncey history.
5. Is he able to play in Toronto?

Kanter was 71st in defensive rating out of 72 qualifying centers.

He is the next to worst defensive center in the NBA.

Kanter didn’t even have the worst DRtg among centers on the Portland roster.

And, his Portland DRtg of 109 was tied for 56th out of 102 centers.

Link

DRtg is a terrible metric for individual players, but it measures Kanter’s defense closer to mediocre than terrible.

Maybe you should try watching him play efense then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTSsK34iISk

yes, kanter is god awful on defense. when he tries really really hard he is merely poor. his defense will lose some games for the celtics. but his offense and rebounding will win others.

i look at this year as a transition year. anyone the celtics signed as center now will not be on the team when they contend in 2-3 years. ainge is thinking beyond next year.

kanter, by all accounts works hard and is a great team mate. good.

i am thinking that CBS may play him as the first big off the bench. he could lead the second unit in scoring and his defense might not be exposed so badly. as a second unit big i like him.

start TL or Theis or maybe Periror or someone. then sub in Kanter.

its a bridge year. you live with it.

No more living with it.  I want my traditional power forward stud.  I want Tatum in Memphis and Jaren Jackson Junior to start next to Kanter.  I want it to be a good trade for both teams, which only slowly over time is shown to favor Celtics (or what the heck forever equal...I'd wish the best for Tatum).  Those are my terms. 

Walker, Edwards
Smart, Langford
Brown, Hayward, Semi
Jaren J. Jr., G. Williams, Hayward, Semi
Kanter, Robert Williams, Theis

[nickagneta]

In that video, a lot of him not stepping up high on the screen and rolls were clearly by design. As someone mentioned you can see him look over to Stotts and is waved to stay back on one play.  There were certainly about 3-5 bad defensive plays other than that. But I've seen single game compilations of other players like Harden, IT, LeBron, and Kyrie that are far worse.

I never will get over the infatuation with YouTube highlight/lowlight videos and plugging them as definitive proof of something. My guess is someone could put together a 5-10 minute video of Marcus Smart playing bad defense. Doesn't mean Smart is a bad defender.

Now, this isn't a defense of Kanter's defense. He isn't a good defender. But Roy was right, in that, Kanter did play better overall defense in Portland than he did in other places and played respectable defense in the playoffs with very good effort.

I am just venting on the use of YouTube videos packages as proof of anything.

[IDreamCeltics]

In that video, a lot of him not stepping up high on the screen and rolls were clearly by design. As someone mentioned you can see him look over to Stotts and is waved to stay back on one play.  There were certainly about 3-5 bad defensive plays other than that. But I've seen single game compilations of other players like Harden, IT, LeBron, and Kyrie that are far worse.

I never will get over the infatuation with YouTube highlight/lowlight videos and plugging them as definitive proof of something. My guess is someone could put together a 5-10 minute video of Marcus Smart playing bad defense. Doesn't mean Smart is a bad defender.

Now, this isn't a defense of Kanter's defense. He isn't a good defender. But Roy was right, in that, Kanter did play better overall defense in Portland than he did in other places and played respectable defense in the playoffs with very good effort.

I am just venting on the use of YouTube videos packages as proof of anything.

What in God's name are you talking about?  Kanter did absolutely NOT play respectable defense in the playoffs with very good effort.  That's the entire point of that video.  IF you can provide ANY proof to the contrary please do so.   

[gouki88]

In that video, a lot of him not stepping up high on the screen and rolls were clearly by design. As someone mentioned you can see him look over to Stotts and is waved to stay back on one play.  There were certainly about 3-5 bad defensive plays other than that. But I've seen single game compilations of other players like Harden, IT, LeBron, and Kyrie that are far worse.

I never will get over the infatuation with YouTube highlight/lowlight videos and plugging them as definitive proof of something. My guess is someone could put together a 5-10 minute video of Marcus Smart playing bad defense. Doesn't mean Smart is a bad defender.

Now, this isn't a defense of Kanter's defense. He isn't a good defender. But Roy was right, in that, Kanter did play better overall defense in Portland than he did in other places and played respectable defense in the playoffs with very good effort.

I am just venting on the use of YouTube videos packages as proof of anything.

What in God's name are you talking about?  Kanter did absolutely NOT play respectable defense in the playoffs with very good effort.  That's the entire point of that video.  IF you can provide ANY proof to the contrary please do so.   

Your video is proof of a bad defensive game plan. You know this

[Roy H.]

In that video, a lot of him not stepping up high on the screen and rolls were clearly by design. As someone mentioned you can see him look over to Stotts and is waved to stay back on one play.  There were certainly about 3-5 bad defensive plays other than that. But I've seen single game compilations of other players like Harden, IT, LeBron, and Kyrie that are far worse.

I never will get over the infatuation with YouTube highlight/lowlight videos and plugging them as definitive proof of something. My guess is someone could put together a 5-10 minute video of Marcus Smart playing bad defense. Doesn't mean Smart is a bad defender.

Now, this isn't a defense of Kanter's defense. He isn't a good defender. But Roy was right, in that, Kanter did play better overall defense in Portland than he did in other places and played respectable defense in the playoffs with very good effort.

I am just venting on the use of YouTube videos packages as proof of anything.

What in God's name are you talking about?  Kanter did absolutely NOT play respectable defense in the playoffs with very good effort.  That's the entire point of that video.  IF you can provide ANY proof to the contrary please do so.   

He had the third best DRtg on the Blazers during the playoffs. He played around 500 minutes in the playoffs; that video shows a handful of them.

[nickagneta]

In that video, a lot of him not stepping up high on the screen and rolls were clearly by design. As someone mentioned you can see him look over to Stotts and is waved to stay back on one play.  There were certainly about 3-5 bad defensive plays other than that. But I've seen single game compilations of other players like Harden, IT, LeBron, and Kyrie that are far worse.

I never will get over the infatuation with YouTube highlight/lowlight videos and plugging them as definitive proof of something. My guess is someone could put together a 5-10 minute video of Marcus Smart playing bad defense. Doesn't mean Smart is a bad defender.

Now, this isn't a defense of Kanter's defense. He isn't a good defender. But Roy was right, in that, Kanter did play better overall defense in Portland than he did in other places and played respectable defense in the playoffs with very good effort.

I am just venting on the use of YouTube videos packages as proof of anything.

What in God's name are you talking about?  Kanter did absolutely NOT play respectable defense in the playoffs with very good effort.  That's the entire point of that video.  IF you can provide ANY proof to the contrary please do so.   

I submit watching the entire games, rather than tiny snippets of some bad individual plays. That's my proof.

[cman88]

we just got a big that averaged a triple double and people are upset 

considering we lost Kyrie/horford a week ago...to come out with Kemba/kanter is not a bad rebound

[Fafnir]

I think its funny that after being very certain that Randle was a steal on his contract you're bagging on Kanter's defense.

Pot to Kettle lol.

[gouki88]

I think its funny that after being very certain that Randle was a steal on his contract you're bagging on Kanter's defense.

Pot to Kettle lol.

Randle at $20m or so a year vs Kanter at $5m a year is an absolute no contest

[colincb]

It's a lot better result than I expected for the $5 million we had.

His offense more than made up for his defense the last couple of years.

[SparzWizard]

If Celtics pick up Cousins, can Kanter play/start at PF? Start Cousins at C?

Walker
Brown
Hayward
Kanter
Cousins