Danny talking with media today (06/05)

[Silky]

I didn't watch the video but saw Jay King's tweets about what Danny said.

Sure sounds to me like Danny expects Kyrie to be gone. 

Paraphrasing: "I'm not sure anything we do roster wise could make the Celtics more attractive to him".

Also sounds like Danny is laying the groundwork for bringing Terry back. 

Paraphrasing: "In the right circumstances I think Boston is a place Terry could thrive and be happy".

That does sound like he is gone for sure no matter if Davis is here or not. Can you imagine this board if the Terry era begins this coming season?

Can you imagine the sorry state of Celtic Basketball if it boils down to Terry freaking rozier as a starting PG?

My god that is just a terrible though. terrible.

I cannot, off the top of my head, think of a worse starting PG in the LEAGUE.

I would wager a few Backups that are better PGS than Terry.

[boscel33]

I didn't watch the video but saw Jay King's tweets about what Danny said.

Sure sounds to me like Danny expects Kyrie to be gone. 

Paraphrasing: "I'm not sure anything we do roster wise could make the Celtics more attractive to him".

Also sounds like Danny is laying the groundwork for bringing Terry back. 

Paraphrasing: "In the right circumstances I think Boston is a place Terry could thrive and be happy".

That does sound like he is gone for sure no matter if Davis is here or not. Can you imagine this board if the Terry era begins this coming season?

Can you imagine the sorry state of Celtic Basketball if it boils down to Terry freaking rozier as a starting PG?

My god that is just a terrible though. terrible.

I cannot, off the top of my head, think of a worse starting PG in the LEAGUE.

I would wager a few Backups that are better PGS than Terry.

Did you say this last year in the playoffs?  BTW, this is not a call out, I'm actually wondering if this was your belief last year.  Many change their opinions over time.  I thought we stole KI from Cleveland, now I'll help pack his stuff.

I think they would be fine with TR as PG out from under the watching eyes of KI!

[Monkhouse]

I didn't watch the video but saw Jay King's tweets about what Danny said.

Sure sounds to me like Danny expects Kyrie to be gone. 

Paraphrasing: "I'm not sure anything we do roster wise could make the Celtics more attractive to him".

Also sounds like Danny is laying the groundwork for bringing Terry back. 

Paraphrasing: "In the right circumstances I think Boston is a place Terry could thrive and be happy".

That does sound like he is gone for sure no matter if Davis is here or not. Can you imagine this board if the Terry era begins this coming season?

Can you imagine the sorry state of Celtic Basketball if it boils down to Terry freaking rozier as a starting PG?

My god that is just a terrible though. terrible.

I cannot, off the top of my head, think of a worse starting PG in the LEAGUE.

I would wager a few Backups that are better PGS than Terry.

I simply cannot fathom why people want Rozier back...

Hell, even Larkin could've done a better job.

[PhoSita]

Disagree. He might be saying the Celtics are already attractive to Kyrie. He also doesn't want to throw Kyrie's teammates under the bus.

You're right that it's possible to interpret that quote in a positive direction.

But if that's what he meant, why not say, "I think Kyrie really likes the team we have and is going to be interested in coming back" or something like that?

The potential "positive" implication of the quote is that the roster is already so good that the effect that the roster could have on Kyrie's decision-making is already maxed out.   Or alternatively, that Ainge believes that Kyrie loves Boston so much that it won't matter who is on the roster.

That doesn't seem like a reasonable interpretation, given what we saw this year and what Kyrie has said in the past.

[Silky]

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Jays tweet, its ambiguous for sure, but nothing I would think any differently on.

Dany isnt sure if adding Davis would make any difference to Kyrie or not, if he want to leave he will, if he wants to say he will.

Nothing to see here.



although I will be so happy when something happens one way or the other. Getting sick of the davis and kyrie talks.

If we go young cool, lets draft some binkies and call it a day.
If we go all in, then go all in and be done with it.









Just dont bring back terry rozier. Garbage trash useless awful player.

Perhaps someday he will grow and mature and realize that there are players who eat at the big table, and then there are players that eat the scraps. And terry belongs eating the scraps.

[PhoSita]

I didn't watch the video but saw Jay King's tweets about what Danny said.

Sure sounds to me like Danny expects Kyrie to be gone. 

Paraphrasing: "I'm not sure anything we do roster wise could make the Celtics more attractive to him".

Also sounds like Danny is laying the groundwork for bringing Terry back. 

Paraphrasing: "In the right circumstances I think Boston is a place Terry could thrive and be happy".

That does sound like he is gone for sure no matter if Davis is here or not. Can you imagine this board if the Terry era begins this coming season?

Can you imagine the sorry state of Celtic Basketball if it boils down to Terry freaking rozier as a starting PG?

My god that is just a terrible though. terrible.

I cannot, off the top of my head, think of a worse starting PG in the LEAGUE.

I would wager a few Backups that are better PGS than Terry.

Even if we assume that he could replicate his playoff production as a long term starter, he would still be a below average starting option.  Though he has the confidence and demeanor of a top 10 point guard, at least.


If the Celts trade for Anthony Davis anyway while retaining Jaylen, Hayward, and Horford, Terry could be acceptable as a fifth starter.  But I'm not sure he'll ever be happy on a team where he isn't empowered to be one of the top 3 scoring options.

[Silky]

I didn't watch the video but saw Jay King's tweets about what Danny said.

Sure sounds to me like Danny expects Kyrie to be gone. 

Paraphrasing: "I'm not sure anything we do roster wise could make the Celtics more attractive to him".

Also sounds like Danny is laying the groundwork for bringing Terry back. 

Paraphrasing: "In the right circumstances I think Boston is a place Terry could thrive and be happy".

That does sound like he is gone for sure no matter if Davis is here or not. Can you imagine this board if the Terry era begins this coming season?

Can you imagine the sorry state of Celtic Basketball if it boils down to Terry freaking rozier as a starting PG?

My god that is just a terrible though. terrible.

I cannot, off the top of my head, think of a worse starting PG in the LEAGUE.

I would wager a few Backups that are better PGS than Terry.

I simply cannot fathom why people want Rozier back...

Hell, even Larkin could've done a better job.

Larkins impact last season has been criminally underrated.

He was a fantastic spark off the bench.

[Silky]

I didn't watch the video but saw Jay King's tweets about what Danny said.

Sure sounds to me like Danny expects Kyrie to be gone. 

Paraphrasing: "I'm not sure anything we do roster wise could make the Celtics more attractive to him".

Also sounds like Danny is laying the groundwork for bringing Terry back. 

Paraphrasing: "In the right circumstances I think Boston is a place Terry could thrive and be happy".

That does sound like he is gone for sure no matter if Davis is here or not. Can you imagine this board if the Terry era begins this coming season?

Can you imagine the sorry state of Celtic Basketball if it boils down to Terry freaking rozier as a starting PG?

My god that is just a terrible though. terrible.

I cannot, off the top of my head, think of a worse starting PG in the LEAGUE.

I would wager a few Backups that are better PGS than Terry.

Even if we assume that he could replicate his playoff production as a long term starter, he would still be a below average starting option.  Though he has the confidence and demeanor of a top 10 point guard, at least.


If the Celts trade for Anthony Davis anyway while retaining Jaylen, Hayward, and Horford, Terry could be acceptable as a fifth starter.  But I'm not sure he'll ever be happy on a team where he isn't empowered to be one of the top 3 scoring options.

In that situation you go hard with full MLE at Rubio or Beverly. (assuming smart is not retained)

Beverly is an otheroworldly defender who can knock down shots and set up teammates.

Gordon is point forward.

Brown is 3andd with driving abilities.

Horford playmakes

Davis is #1 alpha dog scorer.

[Tr1boy]

I didn't watch the video but saw Jay King's tweets about what Danny said.

Sure sounds to me like Danny expects Kyrie to be gone. 

Paraphrasing: "I'm not sure anything we do roster wise could make the Celtics more attractive to him".

Also sounds like Danny is laying the groundwork for bringing Terry back. 

Paraphrasing: "In the right circumstances I think Boston is a place Terry could thrive and be happy".

That does sound like he is gone for sure no matter if Davis is here or not. Can you imagine this board if the Terry era begins this coming season?

Can you imagine the sorry state of Celtic Basketball if it boils down to Terry freaking rozier as a starting PG?

My god that is just a terrible though. terrible.

I cannot, off the top of my head, think of a worse starting PG in the LEAGUE.

I would wager a few Backups that are better PGS than Terry.

I simply cannot fathom why people want Rozier back...

Hell, even Larkin could've done a better job.

Larkins impact last season has been criminally underrated.

He was a fantastic spark off the bench.

I agree. And I liked him better than Wannamaker

I don't know why they just didn't keep Larkin

[Silky]

I didn't watch the video but saw Jay King's tweets about what Danny said.

Sure sounds to me like Danny expects Kyrie to be gone. 

Paraphrasing: "I'm not sure anything we do roster wise could make the Celtics more attractive to him".

Also sounds like Danny is laying the groundwork for bringing Terry back. 

Paraphrasing: "In the right circumstances I think Boston is a place Terry could thrive and be happy".

That does sound like he is gone for sure no matter if Davis is here or not. Can you imagine this board if the Terry era begins this coming season?

Can you imagine the sorry state of Celtic Basketball if it boils down to Terry freaking rozier as a starting PG?

My god that is just a terrible though. terrible.

I cannot, off the top of my head, think of a worse starting PG in the LEAGUE.

I would wager a few Backups that are better PGS than Terry.

Did you say this last year in the playoffs?  BTW, this is not a call out, I'm actually wondering if this was your belief last year.  Many change their opinions over time.  I thought we stole KI from Cleveland, now I'll help pack his stuff.

I think they would be fine with TR as PG out from under the watching eyes of KI!

I wasnt here then, but yes.

I always felt like Terry looked for himself too often, and put himself above others. He shot poorly, and had bad decision making.

He did go on a 20 game decent shooting streak though that helped offset his terrible negatives on the court.

LAst years playoffs
40%
34%

but still jacked up 15 shots a game and played porous defense.

[RJ87]

Disagree. He might be saying the Celtics are already attractive to Kyrie. He also doesn't want to throw Kyrie's teammates under the bus.

You're right that it's possible to interpret that quote in a positive direction.

But if that's what he meant, why not say, "I think Kyrie really likes the team we have and is going to be interested in coming back" or something like that?

The potential "positive" implication of the quote is that the roster is already so good that the effect that the roster could have on Kyrie's decision-making is already maxed out.   Or alternatively, that Ainge believes that Kyrie loves Boston so much that it won't matter who is on the roster.

That doesn't seem like a reasonable interpretation, given what we saw this year and what Kyrie has said in the past.

Or more realistically, Kyrie has not given any indication of roster changes he'd like to see and if he did, Ainge can't comment on that anyway.

[Rosco917]

if Kyrie leaves, Rozier will be the starting PG for the Celtics

I'm not sure if Rozier even qualifies as a PG. He wasn't considered a PG in college, (listen to Pitino talk Terry Rozier before the draft) Terry likes to call himself a PG, but when he's in the game Stevens surrounds him with as many good facilitators as he can. Terry is a backup scorer off the bench until he matures IF he matures.   

[philr13]

Since the Celtics really have no control over Kyrie Irving's situation, I don't know what there was for Ainge to say about it. He said that Irving hasn't told them he's gone, and that's all there is to know right now. There isn't much point in trying to read anything into Ainge's exact choice of words during a spontaneous answer to a question.

As for Rozier, I expect them to match any reasonable offer for him. They have control of his contract situation and that's worth something. It's worth a lot actually. His situation isn't like Olynyk's where they needed to clear his cap space, or Sullinger who no one wanted anyway. I thought Rozier was awful this season and his remarks are nasty and ridiculous, but I'd rather see the Celts trade him than just let him walk.

[BitterJim]

Disagree. He might be saying the Celtics are already attractive to Kyrie. He also doesn't want to throw Kyrie's teammates under the bus.

You're right that it's possible to interpret that quote in a positive direction.

But if that's what he meant, why not say, "I think Kyrie really likes the team we have and is going to be interested in coming back" or something like that?

The potential "positive" implication of the quote is that the roster is already so good that the effect that the roster could have on Kyrie's decision-making is already maxed out.   Or alternatively, that Ainge believes that Kyrie loves Boston so much that it won't matter who is on the roster.

That doesn't seem like a reasonable interpretation, given what we saw this year and what Kyrie has said in the past.

There is a third (neutral) interpretation of it: that Danny hasn't specifically discussed roster changes with Kyrie and is unsure what changes (if any) would make the team more attractive to Kyrie. Honestly, I look at it as kind of a nothing quote (most stuff from interviews is). It's vague enough that you can use it to validate your opinion, no matter what that is

[LilRip]

not gonna lie, ending up with Rozier as our starting PG is a pretty terrible outcome for this offseason. If we trot out a lineup of Rozier/Brown/Tatum/Hayward/Horford, it wouldn't surprise me if the guy taking the most shots or having the highest usage is going to be the least talented guy in that starting 5.