Steve Kyler Twitter:Cs exploring scenarios (trades, draft) not including KI/AD

[csfansince60s]

Someone help me out here, I am not a Twitter person. Who is Steve Kyler and why should I believe he has the inside info on what is happening inside the Celtics front office?

He's with Basketball Insiders.

I saw the tweet on the RealGM Celtics twitter feed and just followed on it.

I went looking to see who he is. Apparently he is a more a web publisher who played as a basketball contributor. That doesn't give me a lot of confidence that he has any connections or that he should be considered as a reliable source of what is happening in the C's front office.

I'll wait for word from Bulpett, Washburn, MacMullan or somebody like that.

Yeah, I will too. Not many others but these three really come out with good reliable Celtic news

Thanks for the digging on kyler, TP.

[esel1000]

I think a lot of people are in denial about the Celtics current situation. I see so many posters absolutely refusing to accept the strong possibility Kyrie leaves.

It’s going to be interesting to see how people react if/when Kyrie walks and the Celtics act accordingly.

TP. I'm afraid that "in denial" is the prevailing sentiment on this blog and on NBC Sports Boston (shocker). I genuinely hope that I am wrong, but I have seen nothing in his behavior since before the All-Star break that indicates that he wants to be here. I don''t think that he likes his teammates, his coach, and perhaps this city. Having said that, the opportunity to play with AD combined with the trading of a number of the younger guys may trump all these negative factors and he reenlists.

Just because someone doesn’t believe Kyrie is 100% leaving does not mean they are in denial. In fact thinking he is 100% leaving is just as silly as thinking there is no chance he leaves.

What benefit does Kyrie have leaving to go to a dumpster fire franchise? What truly changed from last year? What is truly better about those franchises? Everything you listed would be just as bad if not worse. One bad year and the guy 100% needs to leave? Why isn’t anyone trying to figure out if Kemba is 100% gone from a Charlotte team that can’t make the playoffs?

Kyrie could very well be gone but a lot of this is media created, and people eat it up because they either dislike the Cs or dislike Kyrie (or both) and want it to be true.

Real sources have been quiet. I won’t be surprised if he leaves, but it’s ridiculous to think it’s a foregone conclusion.

[Fafnir]

Danny would be negligent if he wasn't exploring those scenarios if he doesn't have firm feedback from Kyrie.

He needs to prepare for if Kyrie stays or goes. And frankly he's been prepping to trade for AD for 3 years and to pair Kyrie with him for 2. He knows what's going on with that. Its the other options that he needs to explore.

So I'm sure such calls are being made, I don't buy he has good sources on anything beyond that.

[nickagneta]

I think a lot of people are in denial about the Celtics current situation. I see so many posters absolutely refusing to accept the strong possibility Kyrie leaves.

It’s going to be interesting to see how people react if/when Kyrie walks and the Celtics act accordingly.

TP. I'm afraid that "in denial" is the prevailing sentiment on this blog and on NBC Sports Boston (shocker). I genuinely hope that I am wrong, but I have seen nothing in his behavior since before the All-Star break that indicates that he wants to be here. I don''t think that he likes his teammates, his coach, and perhaps this city. Having said that, the opportunity to play with AD combined with the trading of a number of the younger guys may trump all these negative factors and he reenlists.

Just because someone doesn’t believe Kyrie is 100% leaving does not mean they are in denial. In fact thinking he is 100% leaving is just as silly as thinking there is no chance he leaves.

What benefit does Kyrie have leaving to go to a dumpster fire franchise? What truly changed from last year? One bad year and the guy 100% needs to leave? Why isn’t anyone trying to figure out if Kemba is 100% gone from a Charlotte team that can’t make the playoffs?

Kyrie could very well be gone but a lot of this is media created, and people eat it up because they either dislike the Cs or dislike Kyrie (or both) and want it to be true.

Real sources have been quiet. I won’t be surprised if he leaves, but it’s ridiculous to think it’s a foregone conclusion.

As I said elsewhere, anyone claiming they know what the chances or odds or likelihood are that Kyrie is leaving or staying are just guessing. For those that are not convinced Kyrie is leaving or that are not convinced the Celtics are better off without Kyrie, almost all I see are hoping that Kyrie returns, think he may but do realize that he may not.

I see almost no one that is convinced Kyrie is staying or anyone that is in denial of the possibility Kyrie will be playing elsewhere next year.

[Fierce1]

Celts are the only team who can offer Kyrie a super max contract.

Kyrie can get as much as 250m for 5 years if he stays in Boston.

All we can do is wait a few more weeks.

[Bobshot]

I wouldn't put much stock into what pundits who are not Celtics friendly say about the Celtics. Kyler is now from Orlando, but he used to run a pro-Knicks NBA website from NY years ago. I remember seeing it. I see him on Twitter now. He is not Celtics friendly.

No question the media suction of these stars is to NY or LA. That's their market base. There is incredible media pressure to make the Knicks and the Lakers major market forces again. It means billions of dollars in TV and advertising.

Ainge is no doubt exploring all options at this point. He needs backup options in case AD doesn't pan out, or Irving moves on. At this point, nothing is definite, except maybe Ainge knows the team has to get better to go higher.

[Pvictor11]

Celts are the only team who can offer Kyrie a super max contract.

Kyrie can get as much as 250m for 5 years if he stays in Boston.

All we can do is wait a few more weeks.

Where did you get this Idea from?

I'm no cap or CBA expert, but I'm pretty sure we can't offer him a supermax contract of 250 million dollars.

[gouki88]

Celts are the only team who can offer Kyrie a super max contract.

Kyrie can get as much as 250m for 5 years if he stays in Boston.

All we can do is wait a few more weeks.

Where did you get this Idea from?

I'm no cap or CBA expert, but I'm pretty sure we can't offer him a supermax contract of 250 million dollars.

Yeah, that is simply false. I believe we can offer him roughly 5 years for $188m

[Fierce1]

I wouldn't put much stock into what pundits who are not Celtics friendly say about the Celtics. Kyler is now from Orlando, but he used to run a pro-Knicks NBA website from NY years ago. I remember seeing it. I see him on Twitter now. He is not Celtics friendly.

No question the media suction of these stars is to NY or LA. That's their market base. There is incredible media pressure to make the Knicks and the Lakers major market forces again. It means billions of dollars in TV and advertising.

Ainge is no doubt exploring all options at this point. He needs backup options in case AD doesn't pan out, or Irving moves on. At this point, nothing is definite, except maybe Ainge knows the team has to get better to go higher.

If Ainge can't get AD and Kyrie leaves, that means Ainge's rebuild plan failed.

Celts were supposed to stay in the lottery for 3 years after Pierce and KG got traded.

But the Celts only stayed in the lottery for 1 year, 2014.

In 2015, the Celts were already a playoff team because of Isaiah.

Celts tried to be good too fast.

Only way to save the Celts' future right now is to get Anthony Davis.

If the Celts end up with only Tatum and Brown after this summer, that means the Celts will be stuck in mediocrity for a while.

[Roy H.]

Celts are the only team who can offer Kyrie a super max contract.

Kyrie can get as much as 250m for 5 years if he stays in Boston.

All we can do is wait a few more weeks.

Your numbers aren’t accurate, and we can’t offer the supermax.

The Celts are, however, the only team that can offer a 5th year.

[Fierce1]

Celts are the only team who can offer Kyrie a super max contract.

Kyrie can get as much as 250m for 5 years if he stays in Boston.

All we can do is wait a few more weeks.

Your numbers aren’t accurate, and we can’t offer the supermax.

The Celts are, however, the only team that can offer a 5th year.

Boston Celtics’ Kyrie Irving Named to All-NBA Second Team; Officially Eligible for Super Max Offer
https://hardwoodhoudini.com/2019/05/23/kyrie-irving-named-to-all-nba-second-team-officially-eligible-for-super-max-offer/

While a return to Boston is not imminent, the “super-max” contract possibility does not hurt the Celtics. Irving has shown money is far from his first priority in the NBA, but for Boston, it certainly should be an advantage to be able to be the only team to offer Irving that kind of money.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Regardless of what any reporter says or doesn't say, I'm sure Danny's exploring every available option. It's his job.

[Fierce1]

Here's more on Kyrie's super max.

http://bostonsportsextra.com/boston-celtics/2019/05/kyrie-irving-eligible-for-super-max-after-making-all-nba-team

Irving’s accolades make him eligible for the NBA Super Max contract, which will pay players like Chris Paul and John Wall over $40 million per year. Irving was named to the All-NBA second team in his eighth year of NBA service, and is entering the last year of his rookie max extension deal he signed with Cleveland in 2015-2016. This makes Irving eligible for the 5-year Super Max contract. Considering the incentives associated with this type of contract, Irving could stand to make nearly $250 million over the next five years.

[nickagneta]

Celts are the only team who can offer Kyrie a super max contract.

Kyrie can get as much as 250m for 5 years if he stays in Boston.

All we can do is wait a few more weeks.

Boston can offer Irving a 5 year max contract but not a supermax contract. If you are off your rookie deal and traded to another team, it nullifies eligibility for the supermax.

Right now the Celtics can offer a 5 year/~$192 million or so.

If the Celtics could offer the supermax, the deal would be 5 years/~$224 million

[Never Nervous Pervis]

Here's more on Kyrie's super max.

http://bostonsportsextra.com/boston-celtics/2019/05/kyrie-irving-eligible-for-super-max-after-making-all-nba-team

Irving’s accolades make him eligible for the NBA Super Max contract, which will pay players like Chris Paul and John Wall over $40 million per year. Irving was named to the All-NBA second team in his eighth year of NBA service, and is entering the last year of his rookie max extension deal he signed with Cleveland in 2015-2016. This makes Irving eligible for the 5-year Super Max contract. Considering the incentives associated with this type of contract, Irving could stand to make nearly $250 million over the next five years.

You're getting bad info from a blog. Here's the criteria for earning a supermax contract (Kyrie isn't eligible):

A player that has already or will have completed eight years in the league by the end of his current contract

Said player has to be with the same team he was on by the end of his rookie deal. (Doesn't have to be the team that drafted him; it can be on a team who traded for him as long as he was on his rookie deal)

They must have been awarded one of the following: MVP in the last three seasons, Defensive Player of the Year in the last three seasons or named to an All-NBA team in the last three seasons

And here are the only players eligible this summer: Davis, Lillard, Kemba and Giannis.

https://ca.nba.com/news/all-nba-team-announcement-who-is-eligible-for-supermax-contract/191g365el60dn1kc3ucn2xsx4t