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Did you like the trade at first? Has your opinion changed since then? When did it change?

Didn't like it first, like it now.
21 (20.6%)
Didn't like it and still don't.
5 (4.9%)
Liked it at first, still like it.
39 (38.2%)
Liked it at first, don't now.
0 (0%)
Unsure at first, now  like it.
25 (24.5%)
Unsure at first, now don't like it.
0 (0%)
Liked it, now unsure.
0 (0%)
Didn't like it, now unsure.
12 (11.8%)

Total Members Voted: 102

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Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #60 on: March 06, 2011, 07:05:26 AM »

Offline LooseCannon

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You cant possibly judge Bradleys ceiling yet, nobody has seen him play. He has the physical tools to be great.

You can judge his ceiling based on his physical tools.  You just can't judge how close he will come to his ceiling.
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Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #61 on: March 06, 2011, 09:21:55 AM »

Offline droponov

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Ultimately, I think Ainge made the deals he made because he would rather trade Perkins than Avery Bradley.

I don't think so. Bradley is a borderline NBA player now with the potential to become a modest starter/good backup in the future.

Robinson's contract+Erden+Bradley may have been able to net a back-up three that would have been closer in quality to Jeff Green than Cleveland's Anthony Parker.

Doubtful. Like whom? Robison was salary filler, Erden is worth a 2nd rounder... who would have so much interest in Bradley? I think that's an extremely unrealistic scenario.

I think Bradley has way more trade value than Erden.  Erden's maximum upside is basically Nenad Krstic with worse offense and better defense.  Bradley's maximum upside is an above average starting shooting guard along the lines of a poor man's Monta Ellis on offense with NBA All-Defensive caliber defense.

What can you get for the equivalent of a mid-first round pick (Bradley), the equivalent of a late first round pick (Erden), and Robinson's contract to make the numbers match?  I would argue you can get something decent for that.

Bradley's absolute ceiling is Alvin Robertson, but a more realistic ceiling is Gerald Henderson. I don't think GMs around the league value him as a mid 1st round pick. I don't think his value has improved since the Summer  - it doesn't make any sense actually, as he's been having a very underwhelming rookie season. I also don't think Erden is worth a 1st rounder. Both of those are highly unrealistic values.

Even if they were, what player would that package get you? Maybe if Robinson was an expiring... but even in that case I can't think of many options.

Nah, I think that if it was Ainge's option, he would have shipped Bradley and retained Perkins. Easy decision.

You cant possibly judge Bradleys ceiling yet, nobody has seen him play
. He has the physical tools to be great.

Hes lightning fast, plays incredible defense, is extremely athletic.

He just needs to be developed. C's arent going to focus on developing Bradley until they rebuild post-big 3. Only then will we get to see what Bradleys made of, he certainly has the physical talent to be great, that much we know.

Rondo was the #21 pick in the draft...he easily is a #1 pick talent wise now that we see how he has developed.

What? Do you think he arrived from the outer space a few months ago? I've seen Bradley playing dozens of times.

I don't understand the rest of your post. What is great? He'll likely be a player of Gerald Henderson's type and level, if most things go well for him. 

Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #62 on: March 06, 2011, 10:11:45 AM »

Offline droponov

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If you're too young to remember Henderson, a rich man's Shannon Brown. A guy who can start in the right situation (playing as the PG alongside Kobe in the triangle or LeBron, for example).

Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #63 on: March 07, 2011, 05:31:25 PM »

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I am curious as to people's initial reactions and if they have changed. I am especially curious as to what the poll on the front page would say if it was restarted today. Adding 1,3 and 5 together from this poll and 2,4 and 6 would give us that info, assuming the sample size were large enough.

 

From the OP, just a quick update and summary of the poll.

Of the 102 who voted: 85 like the trade (1+3+5), 5 don't like the trade and 12 didn't like it initially and are now unsure. Talk about a sea change in less than 2 weeks, especially compared to the cumulative poll on the front page.

WOW!