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Did you like the trade at first? Has your opinion changed since then? When did it change?

Didn't like it first, like it now.
21 (20.6%)
Didn't like it and still don't.
5 (4.9%)
Liked it at first, still like it.
39 (38.2%)
Liked it at first, don't now.
0 (0%)
Unsure at first, now  like it.
25 (24.5%)
Unsure at first, now don't like it.
0 (0%)
Liked it, now unsure.
0 (0%)
Didn't like it, now unsure.
12 (11.8%)

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Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2011, 04:11:45 PM »

Offline GreenFaith1819

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Shaq and JO will not be healthy enough to play a big role in the playoffs. There will be no interior defense. Perk would have provided that.

Sure?

There were myriad questions about our health last year, too - until we ran ORL and CLE out of the playoffs - with a healthy squad.

Almost beat LA, too - until Perk went down.

And even with that - Sheed put on a memorable performance that will always have the occasional "Sheed coming back" thread here on CelticsBlog.

We'll get it together - and have enough bodies to do this. And while we are in the process of getting healthy? We are still winning - something we weren't doing last year.

Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2011, 04:13:59 PM »

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Shaq and JO will not be healthy enough to play a big role in the playoffs. There will be no interior defense. Perk would have provided that.

Sure?

There were myriad questions about our health last year, too - until we ran ORL and CLE out of the playoffs - with a healthy squad.

Almost beat LA, too - until Perk went down.

And even with that - Sheed put on a memorable performance that will always have the occasional "Sheed coming back" thread here on CelticsBlog.

We'll get it together - and have enough bodies to do this. And while we are in the process of getting healthy? We are still winning - something we weren't doing last year.

There were nowhere near the questions about the team's health last year as there are this year.

Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2011, 04:15:00 PM »

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I was unsure at the start, and am still unsure, but if you pressed me for an answer I'd say I'm leaning towards liking it.
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Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2011, 04:17:25 PM »

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Shaq and JO will not be healthy enough to play a big role in the playoffs. There will be no interior defense. Perk would have provided that.

Sure?

There were myriad questions about our health last year, too - until we ran ORL and CLE out of the playoffs - with a healthy squad.

Almost beat LA, too - until Perk went down.

And even with that - Sheed put on a memorable performance that will always have the occasional "Sheed coming back" thread here on CelticsBlog.

We'll get it together - and have enough bodies to do this. And while we are in the process of getting healthy? We are still winning - something we weren't doing last year.

There were nowhere near the questions about the team's health last year as there are this year.

Well, I don't know about that....we all dealt with a less-than-100% KG...Paul missed some time...there were questions about Sheed's health...we missed Glen early on last season due to his altercation...TA missed a decent amount of time....

I think that is awfully close, IMO...

Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2011, 04:22:44 PM »

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i loved the deal at first, and new after watching green and curley, i love it more. 
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Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2011, 04:45:51 PM »

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Shaq and JO will not be healthy enough to play a big role in the playoffs. There will be no interior defense. Perk would have provided that.

Sure?

There were myriad questions about our health last year, too - until we ran ORL and CLE out of the playoffs - with a healthy squad.

Almost beat LA, too - until Perk went down.

And even with that - Sheed put on a memorable performance that will always have the occasional "Sheed coming back" thread here on CelticsBlog.

We'll get it together - and have enough bodies to do this. And while we are in the process of getting healthy? We are still winning - something we weren't doing last year.

There were nowhere near the questions about the team's health last year as there are this year.

  There were a ton of posts claiming that KG was pretty much done as an impact player. The reason people can't remember as many questions about last year's team is because they felt that there was no question that the Celts were no longer title contenders.

Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2011, 04:52:41 PM »

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I think we will be ok.

It doesn't matter if we like it or not it's a done deal.  I went from complete shock to trying to figure it out.  Once they pull the trigger it's too late to sway them so you might as well buy into the trade.  All the teeth gnashing crying or whining in the world doesn't help things.

Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2011, 04:54:33 PM »

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I like the deal much now, but I'm still very skeptical about Shaq and JO's health especially with Shaq being pushed back again.
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Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2011, 04:56:49 PM »

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With the injuries to Perk and Nate and the health of Green and Krstic, I have to say I'm on board with that particular trade.  I'm not on board with the Semih/Gody trade or the Daniels trade at this point.  Murphy isn't producing what Semih and Gody produced.  The two of them combined were definitely worth more than a high second round pick.  Daniels for cash may have been all Danny could have gotten for Quisy but I'd rather have him try to get a future second rounder to use as part of a future deal or as another low-risk/high-potential draft pick later on.

Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2011, 05:06:23 PM »

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Liked it then, like it now.

Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2011, 06:49:15 PM »

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Murphy isn't producing what Semih and Gody produced.  The two of them combined were definitely worth more than a high second round pick.

I think Erden may have been worth a late first round pick.  Having to take on Harangody dropped that down to an early second round pick for the two of them combined.

I'm not sure how Marquis Daniels could have been used to get anything of value when he is a free agent who has a potentially career-ending injury.  Ainge was fine getting a salary dump without having to send an actual asset as a fee for another team to take on salary.  Kings fans should actually be p---ed that the Kings aren't getting something like a second round pick for rental of their cap space.
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Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #41 on: March 05, 2011, 06:53:07 PM »

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  I'm not on board with the Semih/Gody trade or the Daniels trade at this point.  Murphy isn't producing what Semih and Gody produced. 

  You don't think that Murphy will be producing more than Semih/Gody by the time the playoffs roll around?

Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #42 on: March 05, 2011, 07:00:58 PM »

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Liked it at first, still like it.

Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #43 on: March 05, 2011, 07:53:59 PM »

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No change, still like it for the same reasons.

Even though I think I'd rather have Brewer, Pavlovic and Troy Murphy signed as free-agents than the trade while keeping the rest of the core. But not even now we can know if that would be possible though, so if I were in Ainge's shoes I'd still pull the trigger on the trade.

Re: Poll: Has your opinion of the trade changed since it occurred?
« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2011, 07:58:02 PM »

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Murphy isn't producing what Semih and Gody produced.  The two of them combined were definitely worth more than a high second round pick.

I think Erden may have been worth a late first round pick.  Having to take on Harangody dropped that down to an early second round pick for the two of them combined.

I'm not sure how Marquis Daniels could have been used to get anything of value when he is a free agent who has a potentially career-ending injury.  Ainge was fine getting a salary dump without having to send an actual asset as a fee for another team to take on salary.  Kings fans should actually be p---ed that the Kings aren't getting something like a second round pick for rental of their cap space.
That's the thing -- Erden was showing real promise and someone who was definitely the equivalent of at least a late first round pick this year (or any year) or better yet a serviceable PG or wing.  Maybe not Green's level of player but someone that could have plugged the wing hole and allowed us to keep Perk for the playoffs.  Luke had a good showing against the Knicks the other night.  Let's see how he does the rest of the year before we start saying Luke was a burden on Cle. 

I don't disagree with your take on Daniels and Sac but he also might have been swung for a wing or PG signed through next year as a sort of salary dump for another team.   

I'm not sure what was available to Danny but there were definitely players in the market this year and I'm still not sold that the moves he made were necessary or the best he could have done.  I do like Green and Krstic but am doubtful they had to come at the cost of Perk, Semih, Nate, Luke and Daniels.  Until Murphy, Pavlovic and now Arroyo produce anything for this team, that's essentially what all the trades equate to: 5 players for 2.