Horford free agency thread: Possibly leaving: Page 10

[celticinorlando]

The fact they need Hayward to return to Utah form is now beyond massive. If not, this team might be one of the worst in the East.

[hwangjini_1]

Relax guys...we still have Gordon Hayward...the most overrated and overpaid player in the NBA as well as 3 meaningless draft picks.

35 wins here we come!

calm down captain hot takes.

[Kaz]

I have zero faith in Danny Ainge anymore.

Same here.  It is becoming apparent that he had no real "Plan B" to "Get AD and retain Kyrie" and now the team is likely stuck as a 6-8 seed or back-lottery mediocrity

[blink]

Might as well try and move Gordon Hayward. There's no point in keeping him if we can't keep Al.

Move on with Jaylen and Jayson, go young.

I agree.

If the Celts can swap Hayward for Bradley Beal, Celts would not have to totally go young.

Beal's contract is smaller than Hayward's.
That will give the Celts more cap room.

Celts can then sign D-Lo.

Beal
D-Lo
Brown
Tatum
Smart

That's a good start.

Good luck swapping Hayward for Beal. Washington don't have a president right now but even the janitor would probably say that's not a good idea.

Yeah getting rid of Hayward right now for anything of value may be impossible.  We are really better off rehabbing his trade value first.  He will be better next year.

[Fierce1]

Might as well try and move Gordon Hayward. There's no point in keeping him if we can't keep Al.

Move on with Jaylen and Jayson, go young.

I agree.

If the Celts can swap Hayward for Bradley Beal, Celts would not have to totally go young.

Beal's contract is smaller than Hayward's.
That will give the Celts more cap room.

Celts can then sign D-Lo.

Beal
D-Lo
Brown
Tatum
Smart

That's a good start.

Good luck swapping Hayward for Beal. Washington don't have a president right now but even the janitor would probably say that's not a good idea.

Hayward and Beal have 2 years left on their deal.

Reason why the Wiz will do it is because the Celts will offer a pick or picks as compensation.

The Wiz are going nowhere even if they keep Beal.

Boston offering the #14 pick is a good start.

[gouki88]

Yeah, I am coming around to the idea of Smart at PG if Hayward is out there at PF. Let the two of them share playmaking duties. Get a big man who can defend and rebound. Build a bench.

If Hayward can be a useful starter, that team could be a 41-48 win team depending on how good that bench and center are.

I have been preferring Smart as our PG for a while now.  He is a good passer, has a knack for driving the lane. 
Smart - Brown - Tatum - Hayward - TBD

I say that team still makes the playoffs if we get a decent center.

Randle would be good for scoring and rebounding alongside that squad, but he's not a great defender.

Beggars can't be choosers though

[blink]

Relax guys...we still have Gordon Hayward...the most overrated and overpaid player in the NBA as well as 3 meaningless draft picks.

35 wins here we come!

calm down captain hot takes.

haha tp for the laugh

[ozgod]

Let's not slit wrists just yet. There's more twists and turns to this story I'm sure.

[celticinorlando]

Relax guys...we still have Gordon Hayward...the most overrated and overpaid player in the NBA as well as 3 meaningless draft picks.

35 wins here we come!

calm down captain hot takes.

Will do Kool Aid man

[gouki88]

Might as well try and move Gordon Hayward. There's no point in keeping him if we can't keep Al.

Move on with Jaylen and Jayson, go young.

I agree.

If the Celts can swap Hayward for Bradley Beal, Celts would not have to totally go young.

Beal's contract is smaller than Hayward's.
That will give the Celts more cap room.

Celts can then sign D-Lo.

Beal
D-Lo
Brown
Tatum
Smart

That's a good start.

Good luck swapping Hayward for Beal. Washington don't have a president right now but even the janitor would probably say that's not a good idea.

Hayward and Beal have 2 years left on their deal.

Reason why the Wiz will do it is because the Celts will offer a pick or picks as compensation.

The Wiz are going nowhere even if they keep Beal.

Boston offering the #14 pick is a good start.

It's only a good start if it's accompanied by the Memphis pick and Brown

[Fierce1]

Might as well try and move Gordon Hayward. There's no point in keeping him if we can't keep Al.

Move on with Jaylen and Jayson, go young.

I agree.

If the Celts can swap Hayward for Bradley Beal, Celts would not have to totally go young.

Beal's contract is smaller than Hayward's.
That will give the Celts more cap room.

Celts can then sign D-Lo.

Beal
D-Lo
Brown
Tatum
Smart

That's a good start.

Good luck swapping Hayward for Beal. Washington don't have a president right now but even the janitor would probably say that's not a good idea.

Yeah getting rid of Hayward right now for anything of value may be impossible.  We are really better off rehabbing his trade value first.  He will be better next year.

The Wiz are a team trapped in the abyss because of John Wall's contract.

Bradley Beal is a valuable trade piece.

If the Celts start with an offer of Hayward and the #14 pick, I think Washington will listen.

[blink]

Yeah, I am coming around to the idea of Smart at PG if Hayward is out there at PF. Let the two of them share playmaking duties. Get a big man who can defend and rebound. Build a bench.

If Hayward can be a useful starter, that team could be a 41-48 win team depending on how good that bench and center are.

I have been preferring Smart as our PG for a while now.  He is a good passer, has a knack for driving the lane. 
Smart - Brown - Tatum - Hayward - TBD

I say that team still makes the playoffs if we get a decent center.

Randle would be good for scoring and rebounding alongside that squad, but he's not a great defender.

Beggars can't be choosers though

I am down for that.  Can Randle really play center?  If so, that would be a fun team to watch.
Randle gives 100%, he would fit.

[ozgod]

Could this just be a tactic to try and get Boston to give him that 4th year?

Chris Forsberg on Early Edition was speculating about that just now.

This is exactly what it sounds like to me. Not sure how you go from likely signing a three year deal this morning to this now. Very suspiciously sounding like a negotiating tactic for either a higher salary or a fourth year.

http://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1141128295259475969

Boston and Al Horford had discussed contract scenarios, but the gulf is too great for sides to believe they can close on a new deal now, league sources tell ESPN. Horford is prepared to enter the free agency to find a three or four year deal elsewhere.

Welp, this about sums it up. Looks pretty clear at this point that Kyrie is leaving and we don’t want to spend too much money on Al to keep him here. Extreme youth movement here we come. Too bad we couldn’t even get a S&T deal to work for him (like Capela), Though I guess that’s still possible.

Wow. What a ****ty few months for Celtics fans. But at this point I’m just ready to move on to the next phase of our homegrown boys.

They don't want to pay him, either the 4th year or a bigger 3 year deal. Can't really blame Al for wanting more money, he's at the end of his career.

[celticinorlando]

Don't think they can get Beal

Hayward has no value. That contract is just horrendous.

I certainly would just let all the FA walk and go from there.

[esel1000]

Could this just be a tactic to try and get Boston to give him that 4th year?

Chris Forsberg on Early Edition was speculating about that just now.

This is exactly what it sounds like to me. Not sure how you go from likely signing a three year deal this morning to this now. Very suspiciously sounding like a negotiating tactic for either a higher salary or a fourth year.

http://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1141128295259475969

Boston and Al Horford had discussed contract scenarios, but the gulf is too great for sides to believe they can close on a new deal now, league sources tell ESPN. Horford is prepared to enter the free agency to find a three or four year deal elsewhere.

Welp, this about sums it up. Looks pretty clear at this point that Kyrie is leaving and we don’t want to spend too much money on Al to keep him here. Extreme youth movement here we come. Too bad we couldn’t even get a S&T deal to work for him (like Capela), Though I guess that’s still possible.

Wow. What a ****ty few months for Celtics fans. But at this point I’m just ready to move on to the next phase of our homegrown boys.

Oh well let’s use the money on DAR or Randle and some other players and just hope we can build an entertaining team that plays hard... the fun of Cs fans is going to be watching the jays grow.