Jalen Rose - This is Kyrie's last Season with Celtics

[RJ87]

https://sports.yahoo.com/kevin-durant-company-moving-office-180003549.html

First domino to fall. Durant moving operations to NYC similar to LeBron moving his company to LA last year...
Looks like knicks chances are going up

Maybe... Maybe not.

Article also notes that his business partner - and the guy who handles day to day stuff - lives in NY.

Regardless of how significant it is or isn't, the media will lap it up

Oh absolutely. For what it's worth, I have a gut feeling Durant is leaving GSW. Don't think it'll be for the Knicks though. I think Brooklyn would be a more interesting fit for him.

If I were him that's where I'd go too actually. In today's game when you're as good as him you're going to get spotlight, and it's not like Brooklyn is some small market area. Plus, they have good young pieces in Russell, Allen, LeVert, RHJ and others.

Would be an elite 5 right there

And if I'm Durant, I'd rather trust the remaining years of my prime to Sean Marks and Kenny Atkinson instead of James Dolan.

[gouki88]

https://sports.yahoo.com/kevin-durant-company-moving-office-180003549.html

First domino to fall. Durant moving operations to NYC similar to LeBron moving his company to LA last year...
Looks like knicks chances are going up

Maybe... Maybe not.

Article also notes that his business partner - and the guy who handles day to day stuff - lives in NY.

Regardless of how significant it is or isn't, the media will lap it up

Oh absolutely. For what it's worth, I have a gut feeling Durant is leaving GSW. Don't think it'll be for the Knicks though. I think Brooklyn would be a more interesting fit for him.

If I were him that's where I'd go too actually. In today's game when you're as good as him you're going to get spotlight, and it's not like Brooklyn is some small market area. Plus, they have good young pieces in Russell, Allen, LeVert, RHJ and others.

Would be an elite 5 right there

And if I'm Durant, I'd rather trust the remaining years of my prime to Sean Marks and Kenny Atkinson instead of James Dolan.

Ew, I forgot about Dolan. I always just assume he's been chased out of town by now.

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First time jalen rose says something worthwhile will be the first time

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[Ogaju]

when did Maker get traded to Detroit?

[cltc5]

when did Maker get traded to Detroit?

Think about an hour ago

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Not sure why Kyrie would go play with AD elsewhere when he likely can just play with him here with a way better supporting cast than what the Knicks would have. I would hope Kyrie realizes how important it is having versatile 2-way guys like Smart/Brown around who can protect him defensively while not slowing down the offense.

And if Hayward returns to form then we are flat-out loaded. Imagine a starting lineup of Kyrie/Smart/healthy Hayward/Horford/Davis, with Brown, Baynes, and maybe Mook/Rozier coming off the bench.

That team is probably better than the Warriors.

Contrary to popular belief, getting AD isn't a given. A lot of things still have to break our way - primarily the draft lottery. I believe if NY gets the #1 pick, they'll offer it for AD. Whether or not the Pelicans prefers to build around Zion or one of our guys is out of our control.

I wonder what video would cause the Pelicans to pick a player more, a video of an 18 year old player dominating in the NCAA or video of a 20 year old playing excellently(18/8/2/1/1 with efficient scoring and great defense)deep in the NBA playoffs?

Even if NYK or someone else gets the #1 pick, NOP could still decide Tatum's already mature, well rounded, productive game that has been proven can be played at the most important of times, is way more a sure thing and more valuable than a kid that shows obvious limitations in his game and is still questionable as to being an NBA success.

I think selling tickets could be a legitimate concern for New Orleans, which would naturally make them lean towards Zion. He's also got a controlled rookie contract for 2 more years than Tatum.

However, if they were concerned about getting closer to winning, I think they'd go Tatum. Way less raw than Zion

I agree. The no 1 pick would be an appealing offer for New Orleans, but I would think they'd want the proven commodity in Tatum to expedite their rebuild.

Also, with every passing day Davis is in New Orleans, he might be willing to literally run to Boston
https://sports.yahoo.com/disgruntled-anthony-davis-scores-just-160055006.html

[MattyIce]

when did Maker get traded to Detroit?

basically was maker to detroit, stanley johnson to pels and mirotic to bucks

[Moranis]

Not sure why Kyrie would go play with AD elsewhere when he likely can just play with him here with a way better supporting cast than what the Knicks would have. I would hope Kyrie realizes how important it is having versatile 2-way guys like Smart/Brown around who can protect him defensively while not slowing down the offense.

And if Hayward returns to form then we are flat-out loaded. Imagine a starting lineup of Kyrie/Smart/healthy Hayward/Horford/Davis, with Brown, Baynes, and maybe Mook/Rozier coming off the bench.

That team is probably better than the Warriors.

Contrary to popular belief, getting AD isn't a given. A lot of things still have to break our way - primarily the draft lottery. I believe if NY gets the #1 pick, they'll offer it for AD. Whether or not the Pelicans prefers to build around Zion or one of our guys is out of our control.

I wonder what video would cause the Pelicans to pick a player more, a video of an 18 year old player dominating in the NCAA or video of a 20 year old playing excellently(18/8/2/1/1 with efficient scoring and great defense)deep in the NBA playoffs?

Even if NYK or someone else gets the #1 pick, NOP could still decide Tatum's already mature, well rounded, productive game that has been proven can be played at the most important of times, is way more a sure thing and more valuable than a kid that shows obvious limitations in his game and is still questionable as to being an NBA success.

I think selling tickets could be a legitimate concern for New Orleans, which would naturally make them lean towards Zion. He's also got a controlled rookie contract for 2 more years than Tatum.

However, if they were concerned about getting closer to winning, I think they'd go Tatum. Way less raw than Zion

I agree. The no 1 pick would be an appealing offer for New Orleans, but I would think they'd want the proven commodity in Tatum to expedite their rebuild.

Also, with every passing day Davis is in New Orleans, he might be willing to literally run to Boston
https://sports.yahoo.com/disgruntled-anthony-davis-scores-just-160055006.html

I assume the Knicks would also be sending Knox to New Orleans.  And while Knox has not had the rookie year Tatum did, he has shown some flashes that lead to the idea that he could be a very good player.  Smith has also flashed some talent.  Williamson plus Knox and Fox and some picks (and they do have a Dallas unprotected 1st along with all of their own 1st's) tops a Tatum, Smart, Willams, Sacto 1st, Memphis 1st package (especially if the Kings actually make the playoffs which is looking more and more possible every game).  I'm even a bit concerned that even if the Knicks end up at 2 they still might have the winning hand.  That Zinger trade, really helped the Knicks in the trading for a superstar department. 

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Not sure why Kyrie would go play with AD elsewhere when he likely can just play with him here with a way better supporting cast than what the Knicks would have. I would hope Kyrie realizes how important it is having versatile 2-way guys like Smart/Brown around who can protect him defensively while not slowing down the offense.

And if Hayward returns to form then we are flat-out loaded. Imagine a starting lineup of Kyrie/Smart/healthy Hayward/Horford/Davis, with Brown, Baynes, and maybe Mook/Rozier coming off the bench.

That team is probably better than the Warriors.

Contrary to popular belief, getting AD isn't a given. A lot of things still have to break our way - primarily the draft lottery. I believe if NY gets the #1 pick, they'll offer it for AD. Whether or not the Pelicans prefers to build around Zion or one of our guys is out of our control.

I wonder what video would cause the Pelicans to pick a player more, a video of an 18 year old player dominating in the NCAA or video of a 20 year old playing excellently(18/8/2/1/1 with efficient scoring and great defense)deep in the NBA playoffs?

Even if NYK or someone else gets the #1 pick, NOP could still decide Tatum's already mature, well rounded, productive game that has been proven can be played at the most important of times, is way more a sure thing and more valuable than a kid that shows obvious limitations in his game and is still questionable as to being an NBA success.

I think selling tickets could be a legitimate concern for New Orleans, which would naturally make them lean towards Zion. He's also got a controlled rookie contract for 2 more years than Tatum.

However, if they were concerned about getting closer to winning, I think they'd go Tatum. Way less raw than Zion

I agree. The no 1 pick would be an appealing offer for New Orleans, but I would think they'd want the proven commodity in Tatum to expedite their rebuild.

Also, with every passing day Davis is in New Orleans, he might be willing to literally run to Boston
https://sports.yahoo.com/disgruntled-anthony-davis-scores-just-160055006.html

I assume the Knicks would also be sending Knox to New Orleans.  And while Knox has not had the rookie year Tatum did, he has shown some flashes that lead to the idea that he could be a very good player.  Smith has also flashed some talent.  Williamson plus Knox and Fox and some picks (and they do have a Dallas unprotected 1st along with all of their own 1st's) tops a Tatum, Smart, Willams, Sacto 1st, Memphis 1st package (especially if the Kings actually make the playoffs which is looking more and more possible every game).  I'm even a bit concerned that even if the Knicks end up at 2 they still might have the winning hand.  That Zinger trade, really helped the Knicks in the trading for a superstar department.

If the Knicks traded for Davis, would they still have the cap space for two max contracts? Or would Davis's salary eat up some of the cap space, assumingly leaving the Knicks with cap space for just one max player?

[tenn_smoothie]

What I will say is Jalen often knows things:

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=25987034

The recent play of the Celtics have shown that we can also be a very great team with or without Kyrie. The problem is we clearly need Kyrie in the playoffs, so any level of trust and communication must be heavily supported between both sides Ainge/FO and Kyrie.

[tenn_smoothie]

And why is it that we need Irving for the playoffs ?

On a side note - It has been so nice to see the ball movement the past two nites without the Dribbler.

[tenn_smoothie]

Did Rose reveal his source for this info.

Is Irving planning to play in All-Star game after sitting out these games with injury.

[OnPoint]

What sucks is, because of the structure of the current CBA, it makes much more sense for a max player, under 10 years of service, to take 1 or 2 year contracts. So the Celtics have no real advantage to sign Kyrie by offering a 5 year deal.

Kyrie's contract will be up after his 8th season, which means he will be eligible for 30% of the salary cap. However, after 10 years of service, he will then be eligible for 35% of the total salary cap, a significant pay raise. Expect Irving to sign a 2-3 year deal, regardless of where he ends up.

- Players with between 0-6 years of experience are eligible for a max contract worth 25 percent of the salary cap
- Players with between 7-9 years of experience are eligible for a max contract worth 30 percent of the salary cap
- Players with 10-plus years of experience are eligible for a super-max deal worth 35 percent of the salary cap

https://hoopshype.com/2018/10/21/nba-maximum-salary/

[LarBrd33]

Jalen Rose could be right with this prediction, but trust me that's what this is, a prediction. He's not saying this as a reporter and with sources to back it up.

agreed.  Nothing more than a guess.