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Re: Haywards 3-month trend
« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2019, 10:12:01 PM »

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third straight game with 18+ points for Hayward

He got 34 mins tonight vs the 24 he normally gets and will return to when Kyrie gets back. I was happier with his 8 assists and being able to run the point.

He will be back standing in his corner for his 24 mins per game when everyone is back though.
Why do you think that, lol. It's not like he hasn't had good games when we've had a full team

Just saying his touches and probably his stat line will drop which is to be expected. What we need to do is not label him (or others) a failure because he only scores 10-12 points in 24 mins. We have to look at our team differently with all this depth. It’s an ensemble cast.
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Re: Haywards 3-month trend
« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2019, 10:12:24 PM »

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Hayward took the least amount of shots in the starting 5 and had the second most points! He needs to shoot more.

Re: Haywards 3-month trend
« Reply #47 on: February 13, 2019, 10:13:31 PM »

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Hayward took the least amount of shots in the starting 5 and had the second most points! He needs to shoot more.

yes ...more of Rozier and Smarts shots ...like 90% more.

Re: Haywards 3-month trend
« Reply #48 on: February 13, 2019, 10:25:09 PM »

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third straight game with 18+ points for Hayward

He got 34 mins tonight vs the 24 he normally gets and will return to when Kyrie gets back. I was happier with his 8 assists and being able to run the point.

He will be back standing in his corner for his 24 mins per game when everyone is back though.
Why do you think that, lol. It's not like he hasn't had good games when we've had a full team

Just saying his touches and probably his stat line will drop which is to be expected. What we need to do is not label him (or others) a failure because he only scores 10-12 points in 24 mins. We have to look at our team differently with all this depth. It’s an ensemble cast.
A fully healthy Hayward is not a 24 min/game guy.  He should and will get starter minutes once he is officially back. 

Re: Haywards 3-month trend
« Reply #49 on: February 13, 2019, 10:27:55 PM »

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I've been saying all season that I was being patient and targeting all-star break of when he'd physically be ready to play high level basketball again.  He's turning a corner right when he should be.  Let's hope it continues.

Re: Haywards 3-month trend
« Reply #50 on: February 13, 2019, 10:28:09 PM »

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third straight game with 18+ points for Hayward

He got 34 mins tonight vs the 24 he normally gets and will return to when Kyrie gets back. I was happier with his 8 assists and being able to run the point.

He will be back standing in his corner for his 24 mins per game when everyone is back though.
Why do you think that, lol. It's not like he hasn't had good games when we've had a full team

Just saying his touches and probably his stat line will drop which is to be expected. What we need to do is not label him (or others) a failure because he only scores 10-12 points in 24 mins. We have to look at our team differently with all this depth. It’s an ensemble cast.
A fully healthy Hayward is not a 24 min/game guy.  He should and will get starter minutes once he is officially back.

You would think so. Brad tends to not want to change too many things and disrupt the team dynamic by demoting someone but we will see. I’d like to see him starting but it probably won’t happen this year.
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Re: Haywards 3-month trend
« Reply #51 on: February 13, 2019, 10:28:34 PM »

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Hayward took the least amount of shots in the starting 5 and had the second most points! He needs to shoot more.

yes ...more of Rozier and Smarts shots ...like 90% more.

He can have Rozier's shots. Smart's doing fine.

The starter who shoots too many bad shots is Tatum. Yes, he's very talented and I look forward to what he'll become. But please, please, please Boston, find a way to keep him away from Kobe this summer. Can Paul Pierce work with him?

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« Reply #52 on: February 13, 2019, 10:32:20 PM »

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Hayward took the least amount of shots in the starting 5 and had the second most points! He needs to shoot more.

yes ...more of Rozier and Smarts shots ...like 90% more.

He can have Rozier's shots. Smart's doing fine.

The starter who shoots too many bad shots is Tatum. Yes, he's very talented and I look forward to what he'll become. But please, please, please Boston, find a way to keep him away from Kobe this summer. Can Paul Pierce work with him?

You act like he wasn’t always like this.  High school, college.  This has always been his game. 

I agree with you - his shot selection is pretty bad.  I just think Kobe has nothing to do with it.  Tatum owns his own game.

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« Reply #53 on: February 13, 2019, 10:34:11 PM »

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Re: Haywards 3-month trend
« Reply #54 on: February 13, 2019, 10:39:20 PM »

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeLZXlHXEXo&t=5s

Bill Simmons' latest pod with KOC.

Part that stood out to me: Apparently Hayward has been killing it in practice all year long. Everything that's been happening to him on the court is mostly mental. People have kept asking why Brad has played him when he's been awful - Golden State anyone? - The reason why is because C's believe the Hayward who's been wrecking practice scrimmages will return to the court.

If so, then it looks like their patience is starting to pay off.

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« Reply #55 on: February 13, 2019, 11:11:22 PM »

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Hayward took the least amount of shots in the starting 5 and had the second most points! He needs to shoot more.

yes ...more of Rozier and Smarts shots ...like 90% more.

He can have Rozier's shots. Smart's doing fine.

The starter who shoots too many bad shots is Tatum. Yes, he's very talented and I look forward to what he'll become. But please, please, please Boston, find a way to keep him away from Kobe this summer. Can Paul Pierce work with him?

I just think Kobe has nothing to do with it.  Tatum owns his own game.

Exactly, Tatum controls how good he can be.  He wasn't a chucker at all last year.  He is a good passer when he wants to be.  He can be more than what he has been this year.  He is more of a threat if he doesn't shoot the ball every time he gets it.

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« Reply #56 on: February 13, 2019, 11:12:08 PM »

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeLZXlHXEXo&t=5s

Bill Simmons' latest pod with KOC.

Part that stood out to me: Apparently Hayward has been killing it in practice all year long. Everything that's been happening to him on the court is mostly mental. People have kept asking why Brad has played him when he's been awful - Golden State anyone? - The reason why is because C's believe the Hayward who's been wrecking practice scrimmages will return to the court.

If so, then it looks like their patience is starting to pay off.

Thanks for posting that info.  It is very interesting.  Hayward has been really playing well these last few games, maybe he is finally shaking off that rust.

Re: Haywards 3-month trend
« Reply #57 on: February 13, 2019, 11:50:13 PM »

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Hayward took the least amount of shots in the starting 5 and had the second most points! He needs to shoot more.

The box score can be a deceiving here.

Hayward took 8 shots, but also 8 free throws, 6 of which I believe were from shooting fouls, so 3 additional shots not accounted for, so really he took 11 shots, which is more in line with the 12 shots Morris took (with 0 free throws), the 12 Horford took (with 2 free throws, but not from a shooting foul), and the 11 Smart took (with 0 free throws).  Plus the 8 assists!

But of course I'd prefer Hayward to be taking more shots than Smart/Morris, not about the same.

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Re: Haywards 3-month trend
« Reply #58 on: February 14, 2019, 08:07:47 AM »

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Hayward took the least amount of shots in the starting 5 and had the second most points! He needs to shoot more.

I think it's more about the rest shooting less.

Remember that Hayward came from Utah, where they play a very patient ball moving system. They would dribble and pass the ball sometimes to the very last seconds to get the shot they want. In that way they broke down defenses who couldn't keep up tracking the offensive movement for that amount of time.

So Hayward isn't only unselfish, he's also a very intelligent player and doesn't settle for bad or mediocre shots, unlike other players on our team (like Rozier, Smart, Brown, Tatum, Morris, that list is way too long btw) he recognises what type of shots he needs to pass up to get a better shot elsewhere.

So in my mind it's all about shot selection by the other players. Yesterday I saw a lot of good plays, but Tatum took some bad shots and I'm not comfortable with Smart taking 3-point-shots like he's a 3-point-specialist.

Since January 18th, Smart is 16th in the league in 3PA with 88 attempts (32 makes at 36%) in 14 games (6.3 3PA per game). So he's shooting pretty good, but I don't want Smart to launch that many, since I'm not sure that's sustainable.

Re: Haywards 3-month trend
« Reply #59 on: February 14, 2019, 08:45:57 AM »

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I think the best part of the past couple of games is him attacking and getting to the FT line. Before, it felt like every time he was going to the hoop he would just kick it out.